Apparently not enough guns in Texas schools yet..

[crockett]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/santa-f...tream-updates/

They are still having school shootings. Obviously not enough guns yet..

[Matt-ADX]

Originally Posted by crockett

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/santa-f...tream-updates/

They are still having school shootings. Obviously not enough guns yet..

I don't think anyone says having guns in schools outright stops shootings.

[beerptrol]

Just another week in the USA where more lives are sacrificed for the NRA and their fellow gun nuts who send their thoughts and prayers

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

I don't think anyone says having guns in schools outright stops shootings.

Actually that is the logic they tried to push. The idea being no one will attack a school if people there have guns.. They instead will go to schools with out guns..

[pimpmaster9000]

yes but if the guns had guns then the guns could shoot other guns before the guns start to shoot!

[Matt-ADX]

Originally Posted by crockett

Actually that is the logic they tried to push. The idea being no one will attack a school if people there have guns.. They instead will go to schools with out guns..

Was there guns at this school?

[Busty2]

Another very sad day at least 8 dead and 3 injured ? What a bad start to someones life, to have to experience this at such an early age ?

[dyna mo]

mocking a school shooting with fatalities is not a good look op.

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

mocking a school shooting with fatalities is not a good look op.

When he posted this there were no deaths reported, that's just come in.

There is no solutions, its the society that's broken.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

When he posted this there were no deaths reported, that's just come in.

There is no solutions, its the society that's broken.

my point is still valid. Using a school shooting to score political points isn't helping anything.

and our society is not broken. We have problems certainly, like Australia does. But it's completely wrong to point to the USA, from the outside especially, and exclaim we're a broken society.

pretty uncool really MrBB.

[Matt-ADX]

That's how the wacko lefties act now. Don't even bother to show empathy before shoving their agenda down people's throats. We have no details nothing and now we got to argue about gun control

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

That's how the wacko lefties act now. Don't even bother to show empathy before shoving their agenda down people's throats. We have no details nothing and now we got to argue about gun control

because sending thoughts and prayers has done so much to help!!

[Matt-ADX]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

because sending thoughts and prayers has done so much to help!!

Empathy is a bad thing?

[Kafka]

More guns is the answer.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

Empathy is a bad thing?

You have no empathy. American kids in Smrricsn schools is a joke for you Canadian, like Canadian bacon or the Canadian military.

[Matt-ADX]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You have no empathy. American kids in Smrricsn schools is a joke for you Canadian, like Canadian bacon or the Canadian military.

How do you figure?

[Rochard]

Same old story... Having an "armed resource officer" on school grounds means it's already too late and someone is going to get shot. It's like saying "We are going to give you all the booze you want, and then follow you home in a ambulance so when you have an accident we'll be there to pick up the pieces". Having an armed resource officer on school grounds isn't a solution, it's a response after the shooting has already started.

Even worse is the concept of "armed resource office" is can give a false sense of security. Take a look at what happened in Florida. The armed resource officer was an older man, close to retirement. You think someone who is months away from retirement wants to go running into a building with a mad gunman who most likely out armed him and has no reason to live?

The attempts they are taking to make our schools safe are ridiculous. They did it here with my kid's high school. They built a new wing, and included "special door stops" to lock down the doors. That's cute. Never mind the fact that the other side of the classroom is wall to wall windows.

So glad my kid is almost out of high school.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

my point is still valid. Using a school shooting to score political points isn't helping anything.

and our society is not broken. We have problems certainly, like Australia does. But it's completely wrong to point to the USA, from the outside especially, and exclaim we're a broken society.

pretty uncool really MrBB.

As an American who lived in Australia for 5 years straight I can tell you, from how peaceful & prosperous life is in Australia , looking at America when you live there, America looks like an insane Asylum.

Drugs aren't sold on TV in Australia like they are every commercial break in America.

Kids can't buy guns in Australia like they can in America.

People can easily afford a house in the straw at they can't in America. Most Australians on two properties one as a rental to make extra income.

The healthcare System is very affordable easy access. No insurance is needed to get Healthcare in Australia. Drugs are bought in bulk and cheap as candy.

The list goes on.

So looking from that Society in Australia to America where insurance is hundreds of dollars, if not thousands for a family, a month. And people go bankrupt for healthcare. Children have semi automatic guns and kill each other at school. A president can be openly erratic and corrupt and nothing is done about it. The majority of people are forced into renting property an exorbitant rents and can barely afford to own a small city house or save for s decent one. Children are forced into high interest rate student loans to be indentured Financial slaves the rest of their adult life. The list goes on but you can see how people in Australia can think Americans have a broken Society. Billionaires control our society and create the majority of Americans, American businesses, as indentured Financial slaves. The NRA pays Millions to allow children to have guns in America.

[Matt-ADX]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

As an American who lived in Australia for 5 years straight I can tell you, from how peaceful & prosperous life is in Australia , looking at America when you live there, America looks like an insane Asylum.

Drugs aren't sold on TV in Australia like they are every commercial break in America.

Kids can't buy guns in Australia like they can in America.

People can easily afford a house in the straw at they can't in America. Most Australians on two properties one as a rental to make extra income.

The healthcare System is very affordable easy access. No insurance is needed to get Healthcare in Australia. Drugs are bought in bulk and cheap as candy.

The list goes on.

So looking from that Society in Australia to America where insurance is hundreds of dollars, if not thousands for a family, a month. And people go bankrupt for healthcare. Children have semi automatic guns and kill each other at school. A president can be openly erratic and corrupt and nothing is done about it. The majority of people are forced into renting property an exorbitant rents and can barely afford to own a small city house or save for s decent one. Children are forced into high interest rate student loans to be indentured Financial slaves the rest of their adult life. The list goes on but you can see how people in Australia can think Americans have a broken Society. Billionaires control our society and create the majority of Americans, American businesses, as indentured Financial slaves. The NRA pays Millions to allow children to have guns in America.

Neat, lets compare a country that is 13 times smaller with nothing but anecdotal evidence.

[Rochard]

OMG eight to ten children dead plus a dozen wounded.

[Yanks_Todd]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

Empathy is a bad thing?

Empathy without a desire to actually solve the problem makes no sense. The U.S stands alone in 1st world countries with this problem. All others applied the same solution with a 100% success rate in terms of significant impact. Logic comes into play at some point here. Thoughts and prayers mean nothing if you have no stomach for the action required to solve the problem. The solution has been handed to the U.S. on a silver platter with indisputable data. The U.S. is different than Spain and the UK. As the UK is from Japan and Italy is from Australia. The U.S.'s only difference is the intellectual density of their gun nuts and their unwillingness to reason or find a new hobby that makes them feel tough.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

Neat, lets compare a country that is 13 times smaller with nothing but anecdotal evidence.

How big your Society is has nothing to do with the issues I addressed.

It's like you an alt-right Canadian comparing yourself to alt-right Americans. You both are exactly the same type of men; hateful bitter people who think you're better than everyone else with your gang mentality composed of incompetent, unsuccessful, poorly educated, impotent, high financial debt, old middle aged, lazy men.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by crockett

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/santa-f...tream-updates/

They are still having school shootings. Obviously not enough guns yet..

bad news for sure....

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by crockett

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/santa-f...tream-updates/

They are still having school shootings. Obviously not enough guns yet..

dear crocket,

inanimate objects do not make decisions or take actions to kill people. you would find many more adherents to your views if you confined yourself to reality... just sayin'

from grape, out in vineland

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

As an American who lived in Australia for 5 years straight I can tell you, from how peaceful & prosperous life is in Australia , looking at America when you live there, America looks like an insane Asylum.

Drugs aren't sold on TV in Australia like they are every commercial break in America.

Kids can't buy guns in Australia like they can in America.

People can easily afford a house in the straw at they can't in America. Most Australians on two properties one as a rental to make extra income.

The healthcare System is very affordable easy access. No insurance is needed to get Healthcare in Australia. Drugs are bought in bulk and cheap as candy.

The list goes on.

So looking from that Society in Australia to America where insurance is hundreds of dollars, if not thousands for a family, a month. And people go bankrupt for healthcare. Children have semi automatic guns and kill each other at school. A president can be openly erratic and corrupt and nothing is done about it. The majority of people are forced into renting property an exorbitant rents and can barely afford to own a small city house or save for s decent one. Children are forced into high interest rate student loans to be indentured Financial slaves the rest of their adult life. The list goes on but you can see how people in Australia can think Americans have a broken Society. Billionaires control our society and create the majority of Americans, American businesses, as indentured Financial slaves. The NRA pays Millions to allow children to have guns in America.

I don't feel that I was that overbearing on MrBB. I know and understand other countries don't get America, especially the 2nd amendment.

I felt it important to disagree that America is a broken society.

That's simply not true at all, in fact, quite the opposite is true, in spite of the things you mention, American society embraces many many good things, I see them on a daily basis. I'd imagine you do too.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

dear crocket,

inanimate objects do not make decisions or take actions to kill people. you would find many more adherents to your views if you confined yourself to reality... just sayin'

from grape, out in vineland

Children make stupid decisions, especially high school children with raging hormones.

Children are allowed to have guns in America.

That's stupid.

This generation of kids that have grown up with gun violence in schools will change everything so what you think about it really doesn't matter in the end and you and I will be dead soon enough.

[MPGdevil]

I feel sorry for the American kids that the adults are so brain dead.
And when I see Trump sending prayers to the families it makes me want to jam an AK up his ass.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by MPGdevil

I feel sorry for the American kids that the adults are so brain dead.
And when I see Trump sending prayers to the families it makes me want to jam an AK up his ass.

His ass is too loose, you'd have to use a grenade launcher for him to feel it

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

my point is still valid. Using a school shooting to score political points isn't helping anything.

and our society is not broken. We have problems certainly, like Australia does. But it's completely wrong to point to the USA, from the outside especially, and exclaim we're a broken society.

pretty uncool really MrBB.

Its funny, that everytime there is a mass shooting.. The argument is always "dont politicize it" as a way to shoot down any argument about gun control..

How many time will Paul Ryan say.. "this isnt the time for a debate on gun control".. Literally every fucking shooting those words come out of his slimy mouth..

Amazing the only thing Republicans dont want to politicalize is fucking gun control..

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

Its funny, that everytime there is a mass shooting.. The argument is always "dont politicize it" as a way to shoot down any argument about gun control..

How many time will Paul Ryan say.. "this isnt the time for a debate on gun control".. Literally every fucking shooting those words come out of his slimy mouth..

Amazing the only thing Republicans dont want to politicalize is fucking gun control..

mocking a school shooting for political points v. a discussion re: gun control laws and what to do about gun violence are 2 different things.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Children make stupid decisions, especially high school children with raging hormones.

Children are allowed to have guns in America.

That's stupid.

This generation of kids that have grown up with gun violence in schools will change everything so what you think about it really doesn't matter in the end and you and I will be dead soon enough.

I grew up with firearms. We had shotguns and rifles. My family had handguns, but as a kid I didn't know about them and I never saw them or fired them. The idea of a assault rifle or a "assault style rifle" never was even on our radar. We used the rifles to hunt deer during the winter, and the shotguns to shoot trap. The shotguns were not the standard shotguns people most commonly owned; They were all from Europe, and had wood carvings in the stock. The shotguns cost more than a car did.

We never ever even thought of touching any of the firearms without adult supervision - not once. As a kid we played "Marines" in the back yard - I even had a fake M16. But we never ever thought of touching the firearms without my step father present.

I honestly believe what we have here is a combination of mental health issues combined with first person shooter video games like Call Of Duty (which I play), television and movies, and easy access to such weapons.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crockett

Its funny, that everytime there is a mass shooting.. The argument is always "dont politicize it" as a way to shoot down any argument about gun control..

How many time will Paul Ryan say.. "this isnt the time for a debate on gun control".. Literally every fucking shooting those words come out of his slimy mouth..

Amazing the only thing Republicans dont want to politicalize is fucking gun control..

But yet the President of the United States just spoke at the NRA conference...

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

dear crocket,

inanimate objects do not make decisions or take actions to kill people. you would find many more adherents to your views if you confined yourself to reality... just sayin'

from grape, out in vineland

You take pictures for a living right? So how would your business be doing if you had to use one of those old 19th century cameras?

I assume you will agree that having access to a high speed modern camera allows you to shoot a lot more pictures than if you had to set up every shot with new film and hand develop every picture..

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I grew up with firearms. We had shotguns and rifles. My family had handguns, but as a kid I didn't know about them and I never saw them or fired them.

Originally Posted by Rochard

When I was a 11 years old, my younger brother and I had complete access to all of the firearms in the house. We were fully trained in their use, and shot on a regular basis.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by crockett

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/santa-f...tream-updates/

They are still having school shootings. Obviously not enough guns yet..

This is true. More guns = less crime.

Originally Posted by crockett

Its funny, that everytime there is a mass shooting.. The argument is always "dont politicize it" as a way to shoot down any argument about gun control..

How many time will Paul Ryan say.. "this isnt the time for a debate on gun control".. Literally every fucking shooting those words come out of his slimy mouth..

Amazing the only thing Republicans dont want to politicalize is fucking gun control..

Like they didn't politicize it when a crazed Democrat shot members of Congress? We already have gun control laws. Guns are used to defend from crime far more often then they are used to commit crimes.

[ghjghj]

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

No shit. He can't even keep up with his own dribble.

He must not read what he posts.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

dear crocket,

inanimate objects do not make decisions or take actions to kill people. you would find many more adherents to your views if you confined yourself to reality... just sayin'

from grape, out in vineland

So then you advocate every country on the planet having nuclear weapons and every Walmart selling dynamite, hand grenades and rocket launchers. All inanimate objects.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by RedFred

So then you advocate every country on the planet having nuclear weapons and every Walmart selling dynamite, hand grenades and rocket launchers. All inanimate objects.

Are you trying to make your Bladeliar alias seem intelligent compared to you?

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

I don't feel that I was that overbearing on MrBB. I know and understand other countries don't get America, especially the 2nd amendment.

I felt it important to disagree that America is a broken society.

That's simply not true at all, in fact, quite the opposite is true, in spite of the things you mention, American society embraces many many good things, I see them on a daily basis. I'd imagine you do too.

The core of the issue is your a society that doesn't trust their Government, some of the most oppressed regimes in the world have more faith in their dictators, than Americans do in an elected Government.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by RedFred

So then you advocate every country on the planet having nuclear weapons and every Walmart selling dynamite, hand grenades and rocket launchers. All inanimate objects.

It used to be common for stores to sell explosives to farmers, builders, or anyone. There was no problem. The question is why are more people today becoming insane & violent. Just because you democrats like to go on shooting sprees doesn't mean you get to ban guns, clown

[baddog]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

The core of the issue is your a society that doesn't trust their Government,

You are basing this statement on what?

[ghjghj]

Originally Posted by baddog

Are you trying to make your Bladeliar alias seem intelligent compared to you?

Bladeliar has to go...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

The core of the issue is your a society that doesn't trust their Government, some of the most oppressed regimes in the world have more faith in their dictators, than Americans do in an elected Government.

you're entitled to your opinion, as incorrect and biased as it is. I'm entitled to what I actually know from experience immersed in USA society and a student of it.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Originally Posted by baddog

No shit. He can't even keep up with his own dribble.

He must not read what he posts.

When we grew up we rifles, shotguns, and handguns in our house.

We had full access to everything. The rifles and shotguns were kept in a "locked gun cabinet", but this was more of a display case than a gun safe. The doors were mostly glass to display the firearms, the lock was so flimsy it would have broken with a good pull, and we knew the key was kept on the top of the cabinet anyhow. If we wanted access to the firearms we easily could have had them, including ammo.

Our family also had handguns, they were not secure; We just didn't know about them.

Thus.... Both statements are correct. We had firearms, we were taught how to use them, we had complete access to them.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by baddog

Are you trying to make your Bladeliar alias seem intelligent compared to you?

Little early to be hitting the bottle, old man.

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by baddog

You are basing this statement on what?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Amer...ment&ie=& oe=

Any of the 1,700,000 reasons Google lists actually

I've always believed Trump will be the President to do something about guns, I'd guess your are about 10 mass shooting away from that happening, but he'll crack eventually.

[Matt-ADX]

Dimitrios Pagourtzis seems to be the name coming out. Tried to see his Facebook but it was already shut down and even some Alt Right troll made a fake one with Antifa flag and Him shopped into a Hillary hat.

[brassmonkey]

if you have limited thinking you do not know guns are instruments. it can't shoot unless you use it. you wait until they use bombs.

[xClips Jim]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you're entitled to your opinion, as incorrect and biased as it is. I'm entitled to what I actually know from experience immersed in USA society and a student of it.

I actually think there is much truth in what MrBaldBastard said. It's not the whole story, but it is a reasonably sized chunk.

I'm not a gun owner and not a gun fan, but when the extreme left basically calls NRA members terrorists and yet consider Hamas, MS-13, etc as recently injured parties that need defending - how are they supposed to react to that? It's not a new phenomenon, these are just the two most recent examples. They are going to be VERY suspicious of what kind of agenda they are looking at - as they should be.

To me, it's the same kind of thing that Pro-choice advocates have been seeing. Bit by bit, a woman's right to choose gets whittled down - first at local levels and the Feds are coming next.

Always be suspicious of the government taking ANY rights away.