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  • blackmonsters
    Making PHP work
    • Nov 2002
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    #1

    Are tube sites dead?

    I mean, are webmasters still making new tube sites?
    Anyone here made a tube site lately?

    Asking for a friend.

    Thanks
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  • tfto
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    • Sep 2001
    • 2121

    #2
    Originally posted by blackmonsters
    I mean, are webmasters still making new tube sites?
    Anyone here made a tube site lately?

    Asking for a friend.

    Thanks
    Unless you are already well established, It is a waste of time and effort. I launched a couple of them a few of years ago and they can't get any traction. I think I am going to let them die off and concentrate more on my other sites that have traffic.

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    • celandina
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      • Jun 2006
      • 11721

      #3
      Originally posted by blackmonsters
      I mean, are webmasters still making new tube sites?
      Anyone here made a tube site lately?

      Asking for a friend.

      Thanks

      Tube sites, VR sites, dating sites, pharma sites, gambling sites.....any sites which just either recycle or sell shit. Consumer got wise to it by now. Tell you friend to make a good content and not join the "lemmings parade".

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      • Sly
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        • Sep 2004
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        #4
        We have a tube site that we use for testing.

        Bought it a few months back and it has doubled in traffic since purchase.
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        • thommy
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          • Jun 2003
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          #5
          Originally posted by blackmonsters
          I mean, are webmasters still making new tube sites?
          Anyone here made a tube site lately?

          Asking for a friend.

          Thanks
          there are many people making new tubes and whole networks of tubes.
          there are not many other possibilities to get big traffic.

          but to start from zero is maybe not such a good idea.
          Open for handpicked publishers and advertisers:
          www.trafficfabrik.com

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          • blackmonsters
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            • Nov 2002
            • 20961

            #6
            Originally posted by Sly
            We have a tube site that we use for testing.

            Bought it a few months back and it has doubled in traffic since purchase.
            Traffic doubled from what to what?
            100 hits going to 200 hits is nothing to talk about.
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            • Sly
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              • Sep 2004
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              #7
              Originally posted by blackmonsters
              Traffic doubled from what to what?
              100 hits going to 200 hits is nothing to talk about.
              Oops I was wrong.

              7,000 to 24,000.
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              • MatureKing
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                • nosaint
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                  #9
                  I made a new tube and adwords was bringing enough traffic to make it worth the trouble. But since they blocked all porn it became kinda useless
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                  • thommy
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                    • Jun 2003
                    • 5469

                    #10
                    Originally posted by nosaint
                    I made a new tube and adwords was bringing enough traffic to make it worth the trouble. But since they blocked all porn it became kinda useless
                    adwords??? to a porn tube ???

                    in what century was that ?
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                    • GAMEFINEST
                      Make STACK$
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 14477

                      #11
                      Tubes are run by the bid dawgs
                      Hard to get into it
                      Compound interest.

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                      • Klen
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 32235

                        #12
                        It's all about your backlink budget But i suggest building niche tubes instead general as general tubes are competitive as fuck.

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                        • tobedeleted
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                          • Nov 2015
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                          #13
                          Tube sites, like most everything else in adult eventually becomes saturated and boring. I started one a couple years ago and yes the traffic increased, but it didn't convert. It was like hosting a party with free drinks and bragging about the number of people that attend..

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                          • Holy Damage
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                            • Oct 2013
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                            #14
                            If you have "big numbers", then you can still make some monies...
                            No one trade traffic anymore, so its hard to grow and populate a new site starting from zero

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                            • magneto664
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                              #15
                              I have 3 WP tube sites on autopilot, traffic is around - 80 daily visits per site. but i don't do any ANY seo job for this. and i don't run any ads on this sites. just keep domain name for the future.
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                              • The Porn Nerd
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                                #16
                                It's all about presentation, marketing and budgets. And Goals. Want to be like Pornhub? Forget about it. Want to be like Mad Thumbs? Doable but still work. Want to be like a zillion 1000 hits a day tubes? Doable.

                                Hate to sound like a lawyer here but...it depends.
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                                • SpicyM
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                  It's all about presentation, marketing and budgets. And Goals. Want to be like Pornhub? Forget about it. Want to be like Mad Thumbs? Doable but still work. Want to be like a zillion 1000 hits a day tubes? Doable.

                                  Hate to sound like a lawyer here but...it depends.
                                  https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/madthumbs.com

                                  Dude, Mad Thumbs is dead. The once great TGP site has been on autopilot for years now, no support, the design is ancient and they just collect some pennies it still generates.

                                  Judging by their Alexa rank, they receive around 8 - 10k a day, which is nothing for a tube site.
                                  no sig, sorry

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                                  • Holy Damage
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                                    • Oct 2013
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SpicyM
                                    https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/madthumbs.com

                                    Dude, Mad Thumbs is dead. The once great TGP site has been on autopilot for years now, no support, the design is ancient and they just collect some pennies it still generates.

                                    Judging by their Alexa rank, they receive around 8 - 10k a day, which is nothing for a tube site.
                                    Alexa 70k+ its more about 40k

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                                    • SpicyM
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                                      • Aug 2006
                                      • 4575

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Holy Damage
                                      Alexa 70k+ its more about 40k
                                      If we are talking uniques per day, then I highly doubt it. I know paysites that do way more than that. Paysites, not free sites. This former TGP is totally abandoned, just like many others.

                                      X-art has 13k Alexa and it is a paysite .. yes, a popular one, but still a paysite with no tube presence.
                                      https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/x-art.com

                                      I don't believe MadThumbs receives more than 15k uniques a day nowadays.

                                      Personally, I wouldn't add any new tubes to our upload list that are not below 3k Alexa. Waste of time.
                                      no sig, sorry

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                                      • Colmike9
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                                        #20
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                                        • The Porn Nerd
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SpicyM
                                          https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/madthumbs.com

                                          Dude, Mad Thumbs is dead. The once great TGP site has been on autopilot for years now, no support, the design is ancient and they just collect some pennies it still generates.

                                          Judging by their Alexa rank, they receive around 8 - 10k a day, which is nothing for a tube site.
                                          Well you re proving my point (thank you). The question was does anyone start tubes these days and I said yes but be realistic. So as I said, Pornhub level no way, Mad Thumbs level is still achievable and anyone (almost) can do 1k daily or under.

                                          And Alexa is an unreliable way of telling how much traffic a site gets. Very few (if any) paysites get 50K uniques a day.
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                                          • brassmonkey
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                                            • Sep 2005
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                                            #22
                                            you can start one. you need to do seo the tgp template used over the years won't cut it(import and sit)
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                                            • Boozer
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                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 3134

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                              you can start one. you need to do seo the tgp template used over the years won't cut it(import and sit)
                                              man that advice is on a whole different level of deep thinking.

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                                              • thommy
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                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 5469

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                Well you re proving my point (thank you). The question was does anyone start tubes these days and I said yes but be realistic. So as I said, Pornhub level no way, Mad Thumbs level is still achievable and anyone (almost) can do 1k daily or under.

                                                And Alexa is an unreliable way of telling how much traffic a site gets. Very few (if any) paysites get 50K uniques a day.
                                                pornhub level is not funny and not really a goal.
                                                from that level on you need really big manpower and a few own lawyers.

                                                you can reach "size" also with many small pieces.

                                                there are a lot of tube-networks out there what are not in the focus but making a fortune.
                                                at the end some of them are more profitable than the big names.
                                                Open for handpicked publishers and advertisers:
                                                www.trafficfabrik.com

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                                                • 3xmedia
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                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                  • 5738

                                                  #25
                                                  this question doesn't make sense at all as it all depends on your traffic.

                                                  I have a few shitty cam sites with low traffic that don't make anything at all. do I say cam sites are dead? nope... if you have real traffic, you will always make some money, no matter if it's a tube, cam site, dating...
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                                                  • Holy Damage
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                                                    #26
                                                    I have said this many times....
                                                    I still miss the days webmasters trading traffic... It was easy to get big numbers on new sites

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                                                    • brassmonkey
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Holy Damage
                                                      I have said this many times....
                                                      I still miss the days webmasters trading traffic... It was easy to get big numbers on new sites
                                                      cheating ruined it...
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                                                      • blackmonsters
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                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                        • 20961

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Holy Damage
                                                        I have said this many times....
                                                        I still miss the days webmasters trading traffic... It was easy to get big numbers on new sites
                                                        Cheaters and scammers fucked all that up so bad that nobody even wants to try it anymore.
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                                                        • Klen
                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                          • 32235

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Holy Damage
                                                          I have said this many times....
                                                          I still miss the days webmasters trading traffic... It was easy to get big numbers on new sites
                                                          Trading is still big but it is mostly done by russian webmasters and their forms are closed so not sure how to reach them to establish trade.

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                                                          • thommy
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                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 5469

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                            Cheaters and scammers fucked all that up so bad that nobody even wants to try it anymore.
                                                            that depends....

                                                            if you talking about sites what make money with CPM ads i would say THEY fucked it up.
                                                            because sending a user to 50 different sites with 20 banners each will produce 1000 views but still only ONE user. and after that they wondered why CPM prices went down that much.

                                                            as long as i am in the biz all this CJ crap was the worst traffic right after bots.

                                                            nobody who is able to generate traffic from search engines would use such traffic for trading - it would be like exchanging a ferrari for an old bicycle.
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                                                            • blackmonsters
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                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 20961

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by thommy
                                                              that depends....

                                                              if you talking about sites what make money with CPM ads i would say THEY fucked it up.
                                                              because sending a user to 50 different sites with 20 banners each will produce 1000 views but still only ONE user. and after that they wondered why CPM prices went down that much.

                                                              as long as i am in the biz all this CJ crap was the worst traffic right after bots.

                                                              nobody who is able to generate traffic from search engines would use such traffic for trading - it would be like exchanging a ferrari for an old bicycle.
                                                              WTF are you talking about?

                                                              Cheaters send fake traffic, period.

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                                                              • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                • Jun 2009
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by thommy
                                                                pornhub level is not funny and not really a goal.
                                                                from that level on you need really big manpower and a few own lawyers.

                                                                you can reach "size" also with many small pieces.

                                                                there are a lot of tube-networks out there what are not in the focus but making a fortune.
                                                                at the end some of them are more profitable than the big names.
                                                                Can you PM me some examples? I am starting a tube network this summer and want some examples so I am not starting out as a total newbie.

                                                                Originally posted by 3xmedia
                                                                this question doesn't make sense at all as it all depends on your traffic.

                                                                I have a few shitty cam sites with low traffic that don't make anything at all. do I say cam sites are dead? nope... if you have real traffic, you will always make some money, no matter if it's a tube, cam site, dating...
                                                                THIS. It' all about the traffic sources.
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                                                                • brassmonkey
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                                                                  • Sep 2005
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by thommy
                                                                  that depends....

                                                                  if you talking about sites what make money with CPM ads i would say THEY fucked it up.
                                                                  because sending a user to 50 different sites with 20 banners each will produce 1000 views but still only ONE user. and after that they wondered why CPM prices went down that much.

                                                                  as long as i am in the biz all this CJ crap was the worst traffic right after bots.

                                                                  nobody who is able to generate traffic from search engines would use such traffic for trading - it would be like exchanging a ferrari for an old bicycle.
                                                                  yep most trades were sending skimmed bullshit newbies with search engine traffic were getting ripped off
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                                                                  • thommy
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                    WTF are you talking about?

                                                                    Cheaters send fake traffic, period.

                                                                    i do not talk about fake traffic - that“s another story.
                                                                    i talk about traffic exchange in general. a user have only a limited buying power and value.
                                                                    you can“t make this value bigger by sending him through traffic exchanges from one site to the other. the user value will be divided by all this sites.

                                                                    simple maths helps to understand that.
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                                                                    • Sly
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                                                                      • Sep 2004
                                                                      • 31376

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Anyone have a good quality niche tube with traffic interested in a trade?

                                                                      We'll trade a plug. One per niche only. We're using MechBunny.

                                                                      PM me if interested.
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                                                                      • thommy
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                        Can you PM me some examples? I am starting a tube network this summer and want some examples so I am not starting out as a total newbie.
                                                                        paul will hate you for that ;-)

                                                                        but its really easy to find. just search for "porn tube networks" in google and you already find many of them.

                                                                        away from that there are hundreds more networks what don“t want to be recognized as that.

                                                                        there are even a few what are still working with simple embed codes on crappy wordpress sites and doing ok.
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                                                                        • blackmonsters
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by thommy
                                                                          i do not talk about fake traffic - that“s another story.
                                                                          i talk about traffic exchange in general. a user have only a limited buying power and value.
                                                                          you can“t make this value bigger by sending him through traffic exchanges from one site to the other. the user value will be divided by all this sites.

                                                                          simple maths helps to understand that.
                                                                          It's musical chairs with traffic; but I rather put a chair out in a ton of traffic than not.
                                                                          Used to work great when I first started doing it.
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                                                                          • thommy
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                            It's musical chairs with traffic; but I rather put a chair out in a ton of traffic than not.
                                                                            Used to work great when I first started doing it.
                                                                            well - i don“t know what "great" means for you. and yes there was a time when it was not that overloaded but still shitty.

                                                                            sure - even in a mountain of garbage you will find somewhere a credit card - but i prefer to find them in a mountain of creditcards :-)
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                                                                            • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by thommy
                                                                              paul will hate you for that ;-)

                                                                              but its really easy to find. just search for "porn tube networks" in google and you already find many of them.

                                                                              away from that there are hundreds more networks what don“t want to be recognized as that.

                                                                              there are even a few what are still working with simple embed codes on crappy wordpress sites and doing ok.
                                                                              Ha I do not trust Google. When I did a recent search for "Nest cam" (Nest is a security camera company) all I got were porn results.

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                                                                              • Boozer
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                Ha I do not trust Google. When I did a recent search for "Nest cam" (Nest is a security camera company) all I got were porn results.

                                                                                :D
                                                                                https://www.google.com/search?q=nest...hrome&ie=UTF-8

                                                                                I see zero porn results on page one.

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                                                                                • ilnjscb
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by thommy
                                                                                  sure - even in a mountain of garbage you will find somewhere a credit card - but i prefer to find them in a mountain of creditcards :-)
                                                                                  Well, that quote needs to be carved in stone

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                                                                                  • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Boozer
                                                                                    https://www.google.com/search?q=nest...hrome&ie=UTF-8

                                                                                    I see zero porn results on page one.
                                                                                    haha did it from my phone.
                                                                                    Maybe Google knows it's me doing the searching. :D
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                                                                                    • emmasexytime
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                      Anyone have a good quality niche tube with traffic interested in a trade?

                                                                                      We'll trade a plug. One per niche only. We're using MechBunny.

                                                                                      PM me if interested.

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                                                                                      • emmasexytime
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        There are so many tubes site now you would have to have a really good niche idea and a great way to promote it and get traffic to it otherwise it would be a fail.

                                                                                        You could try list it on nichepornsites.com

                                                                                        We have move to sites like that even as a way to earn as even tubes sites with traffic only make so much $'s.

                                                                                        It is almost like shitty 3rd world countries use vpn's so any US traffic mostly isn't US ha
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                                                                                        • blackmonsters
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by emmasexytime
                                                                                          There are so many tubes site now you would have to have a really good niche idea and a great way to promote it and get traffic to it otherwise it would be a fail.

                                                                                          You could try list it on nichepornsites.com

                                                                                          We have move to sites like that even as a way to earn as even tubes sites with traffic only make so much $'s.

                                                                                          It is almost like shitty 3rd world countries use vpn's so any US traffic mostly isn't US ha
                                                                                          I think "micro-niche" has a chance but the problem with such narrow niche is getting
                                                                                          enough volume of content.
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                                                                                          • blackmonsters
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by thommy
                                                                                            well - i don“t know what "great" means for you. and yes there was a time when it was not that overloaded but still shitty.

                                                                                            sure - even in a mountain of garbage you will find somewhere a credit card - but i prefer to find them in a mountain of creditcards :-)
                                                                                            I like perfect scenarios too.
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                                                                                            • NatalieK
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by tfto
                                                                                              Unless you are already well established, It is a waste of time and effort. I launched a couple of them a few of years ago and they can't get any traction. I think I am going to let them die off and concentrate more on my other sites that have traffic.
                                                                                              I suppose a set niche would work...

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                                                                                              • John_Galbani
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Its good for me. I have new and old tubes sites.
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                                                                                                • blackmonsters
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