Kickasspays (Kick Ass Pictures) doesn’t pay after moving to NATS. - GoFuckYourself.com

Arman · 04-12-2018, 01:07 AM

I didn’t understand why they move from Ccbill to NATS. With Ccbill they had good sales, rebills and promo tools. So why?
Now I understand, with NATS they can don’t pay their affiliates. With Ccbill it was impossible. Unfortunately, sometimes sly ones like kickasspays use NATS for cheating in this way. And NATS doesn’t care about it, unfortunately.
But this topic isn’t about NATS, this topic is about Kickasspays.
Be aware – Kickasspays (Kick Ass Pictures) are cheaters!

Matyko · 04-12-2018, 01:25 AM

Hey,

An important note: They are Legit and Good people and THEY DO PAY.
I am their affiliate since ages, and although they really have issues with fast communication here and there [mainly in the past ~12 months] but they are not cheaters and never were.

My team is VERY HAPPY with them moving to NATS 4.1, our sales are definitely better, and it was pretty outstanding when they were just a ccbill program.

It does worth it to work with them, CumEatingCuckolds is a niche-leader premium exclusive site, and FootFetishDaily is in the top zone of the niche too.

I am sending them this topic, they are on this board and will clarify this , I have 0 doubts ;)

Melissa Campos is a working contact FYI: [email protected]

Arman · 04-12-2018, 02:16 AM

It seems you are lucky man

Arman · 04-12-2018, 02:19 AM

I wrote here [email protected] as well. Nо response.

Matyko · 04-12-2018, 05:37 AM

"And NATS doesn’t care about it, unfortunately."

Now this is an indeed true statement: Let's just see NastyCzechCash.com : they still have an active NATS license, and well-known for not paying their affiliates For Years!! Brought up this topic several times, sadly TMM is not giving a flying fuck...

marcop · 04-12-2018, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arman

I didn’t understand why they move from Ccbill to NATS. With Ccbill they had good sales, rebills and promo tools. So why?
Now I understand, with NATS they can don’t pay their affiliates. With Ccbill it was impossible. Unfortunately, sometimes sly ones like kickasspays use NATS for cheating in this way. And NATS doesn’t care about it, unfortunately.
But this topic isn’t about NATS, this topic is about Kickasspays.
Be aware – Kickasspays (Kick Ass Pictures) are cheaters!

Kick Ass moved to NATS for a number of reasons, none of which were to piss you off or rip you off.

I've known Melissa for several years, and have worked with her for over a year, and my experience is she is scrupulously honest.

She's been out of the office for a few weeks to help one of her daughters with the birth of her first child (on the other side of the country), and has been occasionally slow to reply to emails in that time.

Melissa will be VERY unhappy you called her a cheat.

CaptainHowdy · 04-12-2018, 07:18 AM

Looks like you're jumping the gun on KickAssPays, OP ...

NickBaer · 04-12-2018, 07:24 AM

The programs I have threshold balances with are non-CCBill programs. Waiting to meet threshold.

However, with CCBill, there are no individual program thresholds, just my weekly CCBill threshold, which with US ACH is $25.

And my user info is protected.

Arman · 04-12-2018, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcop

She's been out of the office for a few weeks to help one of her daughters with the birth of her first child (on the other side of the country), and has been occasionally slow to reply to emails in that time.

Melissa will be VERY unhappy you called her a cheat.

I’ve tried to get payments a few months. I don’t know Melissa but me too very unhappy she doesn’t pay me.

Arman · 04-12-2018, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Looks like you're jumping the gun on KickAssPays, OP ...

Maybe. But I’m bored with begging for my payment.

CaptainHowdy · 04-12-2018, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arman

Maybe. But I’m bored with begging for my payment.

I understand and I hope that you and the company can work it out.

Kenny B! · 04-12-2018, 12:27 PM

As others have said Melissa is very honest and Kick Ass Pays does pay. I don't know why you're having an issue but we've received our payments on time.

AMDWarrior · 04-12-2018, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arman

I didn’t understand why they move from Ccbill to NATS. With Ccbill they had good sales, rebills and promo tools. So why?
Now I understand, with NATS they can don’t pay their affiliates. With Ccbill it was impossible. Unfortunately, sometimes sly ones like kickasspays use NATS for cheating in this way. And NATS doesn’t care about it, unfortunately.
But this topic isn’t about NATS, this topic is about Kickasspays.
Be aware – Kickasspays (Kick Ass Pictures) are cheaters!

Paid me just fine ya troll..

TBFS · 04-12-2018, 02:37 PM

No payment issues here. Sales have also increased since nats

Arman · 04-13-2018, 12:40 AM

When they pay?

adultchatpay · 04-13-2018, 03:12 AM

Bump bump!

andresss · 04-13-2018, 06:31 AM

Bump bump bump!

Matyko · 04-13-2018, 06:43 AM

what amount are we talking about here? How much do they owe you?

Arman · 04-13-2018, 09:56 AM

Does it matter? $300+
It mater going they pay or not.

Arman · 04-13-2018, 09:58 AM

Maybe they pay only big amount? Yes?

Melissa · 04-13-2018, 02:45 PM

Hello everyone. I have been out of the office for at least a month now. I have had some personal issues I have been dealing with. Both of my daughters had babies within a week of each other, my brother in law was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer and my mom had a stroke. I am very sorry I have been a little more difficult to get in touch with but I never meant to make anyone feel as if I was cheating them out of money. I have always paid my affiliates and that will never change. With all of this happening in my family all at the same time I have been slower at my work duties. I am trying to get all in order so I can focus on my affiliates but please understand I will never cheat anyone. I am so sorry all of this has happened.

Arman · 04-14-2018, 12:10 AM

Thank you for response. I understand you and hope that everything will be good with your family. But please, be in touch.

Sharon1974 · 04-14-2018, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko

"And NATS doesn’t care about it, unfortunately."

Now this is an indeed true statement: Let's just see NastyCzechCash.com : they still have an active NATS license, and well-known for not paying their affiliates For Years!! Brought up this topic several times, sadly TMM is not giving a flying fuck...

Sensationalcash, Buttbucks, etc... all paying their NATS licence but not their affiliates. It should be mandatory to pay your affiliates if you have a NATS licence. But this is clearly off-topic

BTW never had issues with Kickasspays.

brassmonkey · 04-14-2018, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Melissa

Hello everyone. I have been out of the office for at least a month now. I have had some personal issues I have been dealing with. Both of my daughters had babies within a week of each other, my brother in law was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer and my mom had a stroke. I am very sorry I have been a little more difficult to get in touch with but I never meant to make anyone feel as if I was cheating them out of money. I have always paid my affiliates and that will never change. With all of this happening in my family all at the same time I have been slower at my work duties. I am trying to get all in order so I can focus on my affiliates but please understand I will never cheat anyone. I am so sorry all of this has happened.

mesa sucks ass

femdomdestiny · 04-14-2018, 10:33 AM

I am not promoting them, basically always ignoring programs that move from CCbill but somehow I've got a sale recently from some of old links

The Porn Nerd · 04-14-2018, 10:45 AM

I have them in my Members Area as upsells but since moving from CCBill I have not seen any sales.

TBFS · 04-15-2018, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

I am not promoting them, basically always ignoring programs that move from CCbill but somehow I've got a sale recently from some of old links

i see these type of comments more often.

why the f would you pref ccbill over nats? what am i missing? :P the amount of data you can get from nats is so usefull compared to ccbill. Which in turn allows for way better optimization
I am always super happy when a program goes to nats :P

femdomdestiny · 04-15-2018, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBFS

i see these type of comments more often.

why the f would you pref ccbill over nats? what am i missing? :P the amount of data you can get from nats is so usefull compared to ccbill. Which in turn allows for way better optimization
I am always super happy when a program goes to nats :P

Because (especially in my niche) that means that I will always have some money waiting to reach break amount instead of using it. That is the first an main reason. At some point in time, I've removed all programs having own billing rules and that was pretty smart move from my perspective.

The second reason is that there are always programs that are not responding to emails, not paying, being late, finding excuses etc. With CCbill or Verotel, I never had a problem with payments. Actually few small problems but that is nothing considering that it has been over 10 years. In the same period, I've seen many programs going out of bi, not paying to webmasters.

GAMEFINEST · 04-15-2018, 02:04 PM

Gotta be patient bro

phil-flash · 04-15-2018, 02:40 PM

My CCBill program is unwavering... 16 years now. Make the switch to phil-flash-Cash and actually make some cash!

I never promoted anything sites or programs that were not Epoch or CCBill. Well, I did... but never made a friggin dime. I don't trust that kind of setup. Third party billing may be a bit more expensive for the program owner, but I believe there is more trust from affiliates.

Matyko · 04-15-2018, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arman

Maybe they pay only big amount? Yes?

No. They are paying everyone.

I asked because if you're a legit affiliate, I can pay your share, and I will take care of this later, when Melissa is back and settled, to help both of you.

Arman · 04-16-2018, 02:00 AM

Thank you!

But I’ll wait a little bit more. It is no problem to wait if she has troubles now but going to pay in feature.

Matyko · 04-17-2018, 03:40 AM

Meanwhile I took care of this, Arman's pending check was just paid by me in full, via paxum.
I would appreciate a confirmation from you Arman, also please email Melissa so she won't forget to mark your payment as paid in the NATS admin.
Also, if you could email the board admins a request to alter the thread title [add something to the end like "resolved, paid"] would be quite nice from you.

CaptainHowdy · 04-17-2018, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko

Meanwhile I took care of this, Arman's pending check was just paid by me in full, via paxum.
I would appreciate a confirmation from you Arman, also please email Melissa so she won't forget to mark your payment as paid in the NATS admin.
Also, if you could email the board admins a request to alter the thread title [add something to the end like "resolved, paid"] would be quite nice from you.

You're just grand, Matyko

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Arman · 04-17-2018, 08:06 AM

Thank you, Matyko! I’ve got money.

It seems Melissa has really good friend.

Matyko · 04-18-2018, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

You're just grand, Matyko

.

Thanks

But I am just doing what I think is the right thing to do in such a case.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arman

Thank you, Matyko! I’ve got money.

It seems Melissa has really good friend.

Suberb! Honestly, I am working with Melissa not that long time ago. But I know Jesse who launched CumEatingCuckolds and KickAssPays as a one-man-army long time ago. He was always very kind and professional. He is busy with something else now and Melissa is working on KickAssPays - as far as I know, but this changes nothing on my side.

Peace to you all, KickAssPays is a good program, with 2 decent exclusive niche paysites. If you have cuckold traffic: CEC is top in it's niche.

Matyko · 01-31-2019, 06:30 AM

Just an update: I got paid (via international wire) with super-fast turnaround time after I sent my invoice for Melissa.

Btw she lately mentioned something about managing the program in a way where ccbill will do the payments, not her, manually. This is good news

seeandsee · 01-31-2019, 07:03 AM

NATS is not same a ccbill

geirlur · 01-31-2019, 07:12 AM

I'm not able to get a reply there..
I see I have so much money pending that I can change from check to wire, that's positive at least

Nick_awt · 01-31-2019, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko

Just an update: I got paid (via international wire) with super-fast turnaround time after I sent my invoice for Melissa.

Btw she lately mentioned something about managing the program in a way where ccbill will do the payments, not her, manually. This is good news

Melissa actually replied to you ?
I've sent countless emails and skype requests and nothing.

Im only owed a small amount, but it would be nice to get paid, then i know its worth still promoting them.

How do you communicate with her ?

Thanks :-)

Matyko · 02-01-2019, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick_awt

Melissa actually replied to you ?
I've sent countless emails and skype requests and nothing.

Im only owed a small amount, but it would be nice to get paid, then i know its worth still promoting them.

How do you communicate with her ?

Thanks :-)

I communicate with her in email. It definitely worth promoting them.

Nick_awt · 02-03-2019, 04:46 AM

Thanks for the heads up.

I have sent a number of emails to micky and melissa and not a single reply.

04-12-2018, 01:07 AM	#1
Arman Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 235	Kickasspays (Kick Ass Pictures) doesn’t pay after moving to NATS. I didn’t understand why they move from Ccbill to NATS. With Ccbill they had good sales, rebills and promo tools. So why? Now I understand, with NATS they can don’t pay their affiliates. With Ccbill it was impossible. Unfortunately, sometimes sly ones like kickasspays use NATS for cheating in this way. And NATS doesn’t care about it, unfortunately. But this topic isn’t about NATS, this topic is about Kickasspays. Be aware – Kickasspays (Kick Ass Pictures) are cheaters!

04-12-2018, 01:25 AM	#2
Matyko PsyHead Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 8,671	Hey, An important note: They are Legit and Good people and THEY DO PAY. I am their affiliate since ages, and although they really have issues with fast communication here and there [mainly in the past ~12 months] but they are not cheaters and never were. My team is VERY HAPPY with them moving to NATS 4.1, our sales are definitely better, and it was pretty outstanding when they were just a ccbill program. It does worth it to work with them, CumEatingCuckolds is a niche-leader premium exclusive site, and FootFetishDaily is in the top zone of the niche too. I am sending them this topic, they are on this board and will clarify this , I have 0 doubts ;) Melissa Campos is a working contact FYI: [email protected] __________________ -=- Register with our ref link and we help you with the setup! -=- AdSpyglass.com - Double your profit from brokers

04-12-2018, 05:37 AM	#5
Matyko PsyHead Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 8,671	"And NATS doesn’t care about it, unfortunately." Now this is an indeed true statement: Let's just see NastyCzechCash.com : they still have an active NATS license, and well-known for not paying their affiliates For Years!! Brought up this topic several times, sadly TMM is not giving a flying fuck... __________________ -=- Register with our ref link and we help you with the setup! -=- AdSpyglass.com - Double your profit from brokers

04-12-2018, 07:18 AM	#7
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04-12-2018, 07:24 AM	#8
NickBaer Nick Baer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In Europe. Using high speed Internet to update my studios. Posts: 1,380	The programs I have threshold balances with are non-CCBill programs. Waiting to meet threshold. However, with CCBill, there are no individual program thresholds, just my weekly CCBill threshold, which with US ACH is $25. And my user info is protected. __________________ Made my first porno in 1986. Sold my first VHS in 1993. Did my first live Cam in 1994. Coach-Karl.com NickBaerGallery.com I host with MojoHost.com and To Buy or Sell Sites Imagine AI Content

04-12-2018, 02:16 AM	#3
Arman Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 235	It seems you are lucky man

04-12-2018, 02:19 AM	#4
Arman Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 235	I wrote here [email protected] as well. Nо response.

04-12-2018, 12:27 PM	#12
Kenny B! Confirmed Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,717	As others have said Melissa is very honest and Kick Ass Pays does pay. I don't know why you're having an issue but we've received our payments on time. __________________ Kenny -at- YourPaysitePartner.com Skype: kennyb514 Do business with us: Your Paysite Partner Kenny's Pennies Sticky Dollars Radical Cash Indie Bucks Stand Ahead Read My Ambush Interview Here

04-12-2018, 02:37 PM	#14
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04-13-2018, 12:40 AM	#15
Arman Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 235	When they pay?

04-13-2018, 03:12 AM	#16
adultchatpay Let's Make Money Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,784	Bump bump!

04-13-2018, 06:31 AM	#17
andresss Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 246	Bump bump bump!

04-13-2018, 06:43 AM	#18
Matyko PsyHead Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 8,671	what amount are we talking about here? How much do they owe you? __________________ -=- Register with our ref link and we help you with the setup! -=- AdSpyglass.com - Double your profit from brokers

04-13-2018, 09:56 AM	#19
Arman Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 235	Does it matter? $300+ It mater going they pay or not.

04-13-2018, 09:58 AM	#20
Arman Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 235	Maybe they pay only big amount? Yes?

04-13-2018, 02:45 PM	#21
Melissa Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 18	Hello everyone. I have been out of the office for at least a month now. I have had some personal issues I have been dealing with. Both of my daughters had babies within a week of each other, my brother in law was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer and my mom had a stroke. I am very sorry I have been a little more difficult to get in touch with but I never meant to make anyone feel as if I was cheating them out of money. I have always paid my affiliates and that will never change. With all of this happening in my family all at the same time I have been slower at my work duties. I am trying to get all in order so I can focus on my affiliates but please understand I will never cheat anyone. I am so sorry all of this has happened. __________________ Kick Ass Pictures

04-14-2018, 12:10 AM	#22
Arman Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 235	Thank you for response. I understand you and hope that everything will be good with your family. But please, be in touch.

04-14-2018, 10:33 AM	#25
femdomdestiny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,176	I am not promoting them, basically always ignoring programs that move from CCbill but somehow I've got a sale recently from some of old links __________________ Femdom Destiny -------------------------------------------- ICQ: 463-630-426 email: webmaster(at)femdomdestiny.com

04-14-2018, 10:45 AM	#26
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,607	I have them in my Members Area as upsells but since moving from CCBill I have not seen any sales. __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Now on Teams: peabodymedia

04-15-2018, 02:04 PM	#29
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04-15-2018, 02:40 PM	#30
phil-flash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 649	My CCBill program is unwavering... 16 years now. Make the switch to phil-flash-Cash and actually make some cash! I never promoted anything sites or programs that were not Epoch or CCBill. Well, I did... but never made a friggin dime. I don't trust that kind of setup. Third party billing may be a bit more expensive for the program owner, but I believe there is more trust from affiliates. __________________ phil-flash Cash - Gallery Exporter

04-16-2018, 02:00 AM	#32
Arman Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 235	Thank you! But I’ll wait a little bit more. It is no problem to wait if she has troubles now but going to pay in feature.

04-17-2018, 03:40 AM	#33
Matyko PsyHead Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 8,671	Meanwhile I took care of this, Arman's pending check was just paid by me in full, via paxum. I would appreciate a confirmation from you Arman, also please email Melissa so she won't forget to mark your payment as paid in the NATS admin. Also, if you could email the board admins a request to alter the thread title [add something to the end like "resolved, paid"] would be quite nice from you. __________________ -=- Register with our ref link and we help you with the setup! -=- AdSpyglass.com - Double your profit from brokers

04-17-2018, 08:06 AM	#35
Arman Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 235	Thank you, Matyko! I’ve got money. It seems Melissa has really good friend.

01-31-2019, 06:30 AM	#37
Matyko PsyHead Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 8,671	Just an update: I got paid (via international wire) with super-fast turnaround time after I sent my invoice for Melissa. Btw she lately mentioned something about managing the program in a way where ccbill will do the payments, not her, manually. This is good news __________________ -=- Register with our ref link and we help you with the setup! -=- AdSpyglass.com - Double your profit from brokers

01-31-2019, 07:03 AM	#38
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01-31-2019, 07:12 AM	#39
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02-03-2019, 04:46 AM	#42
Nick_awt Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 595	Thanks for the heads up. I have sent a number of emails to micky and melissa and not a single reply.