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03-26-2018, 11:04 AM

Thats weird, one of my sites that had completely disappeared for like 1 year ago , now is back up and is floating between 2nd-13th position for its main keyword.
One other went totally silent today, while yesterday was slammed with traffic.

WTF is google doing?
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03-26-2018, 02:27 PM

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03-26-2018, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by Firestarter30

Thats weird, one of my sites that had completely disappeared for like 1 year ago , now is back up and is floating between 2nd-13th position for its main keyword.
One other went totally silent today, while yesterday was slammed with traffic.

WTF is google doing?

Same lol, yesterday 700 se hits, today only 300
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03-26-2018, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by Konda

Very interesting stuff

this is the total stats from a network with around 100 tube sites (that get 100,000s daily visitors from Google)

you can clearly see the changes, and they affected almost every site on the whole network

at the big increase on the 15th a handful went down, and all those that went down on the 15th when everything went up went up on the 23rd when the others went down

That graph is exactly what i am seeing, except for that 24th bounce for me, bounced higher than anything else on the graph

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03-26-2018, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by AzteK

So where I'm showing an increase of traffic, you show a decrease and where I'm showing a decrease your traffic has increased? Was your traffic flux as dramatic as the graph bellow? Also you recovered?

Just as dramatic. Today I'm seeing near regular levels again.
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03-26-2018, 04:40 PM

Some google update was made and is not finish yet.
https://webmasters.googleblog.com/20...exing.html?m=1

from myself I can say that websites prepared for mobile. went up.
some up to 400% -500%. a lot has appeared on the top 10.
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03-28-2018, 08:08 AM

Anyone seeing any improvements?

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03-28-2018, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by Tdash

Anyone seeing any improvements?

It is too early to make conclusions

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03-28-2018, 08:31 AM

Watching Google fuck with their shit in real time is.....fun.

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03-28-2018, 12:57 PM

Are you guys still seeing good numbers?
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03-28-2018, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by Holy Damage

Are you guys still seeing good numbers?

Yes I am

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03-28-2018, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Holy Damage

Are you guys still seeing good numbers?

Not as good as on initial spike (24th) but still decent. Shit is dancing like crazy.

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03-29-2018, 12:58 PM

Damn!
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03-29-2018, 03:35 PM

I am back to where i was before this adjustments.
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03-29-2018, 03:40 PM

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03-29-2018, 09:35 PM

Still got some traffic... but nothing as 26th
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03-29-2018, 10:30 PM

it still isn't stable, also lots of shitty SERPs for some terms... crap porn sites that should be nowhere to found rank for "porn", many general porn terms rerurn just subpages or particular video pages, no root domains at all, at least it's not mainstream shit.

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03-30-2018, 02:36 AM

Originally posted by 3xmedia

it still isn't stable, also lots of shitty SERPs for some terms... crap porn sites that should be nowhere to found rank for "porn", many general porn terms rerurn just subpages or particular video pages, no root domains at all, at least it's not mainstream shit.

I started to wonder is this just a way of google trolling us
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03-30-2018, 06:19 AM

It just shows really you can put so much effort into running sites, coming up with nice designs, adding lots of great content, but the reality is they are nothing compared to these massive tubes. Without a google handout most webmasters are fucked.
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03-30-2018, 06:39 AM

all good

calm down guys. It will stabilize if you were working by the rules. This is a graph for one of my important keywords. As expected it is coming back, as long as you are doing quality work.

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03-30-2018, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by mikeworks

It just shows really you can put so much effort into running sites, coming up with nice designs, adding lots of great content, but the reality is they are nothing compared to these massive tubes. Without a google handout most webmasters are fucked.

Yep. I'm seeing Pornhub everywhere. It's just impossible to beat all these corporate tubes. But the future is clear-sooner or later Google will die. People will never stop looking for quality porn content. The creation of artificial consumer habits is dangerous. At the end, Google will have to pay the bill as it happens with all the manipulative regimes in reality.
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03-30-2018, 03:06 PM

Indeed there was another update on March 28th https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...ate-25488.html
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04-04-2018, 12:23 PM

anybody notice something from yesterday?
less or more traffic from google?

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04-04-2018, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by magneto664

anybody notice something from yesterday?
less or more traffic from google?

Yes going down even further lol .
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04-04-2018, 01:29 PM

this is how my google traffic behaved during march and beyond, pretty much all sites on similar pattern (after being stable for ages):

also, porn serps are pretty ODD (to say the least)

example being, check this site:
https://www.semrush.com/info/mzansi.porn?db=us
few months old, 1.5 million.... top results for some ultra heavy keywords

and countless more scrape / embed tubes and such stuff across many porn niches that I checked

with all that being said, I somehow believe there is a "correction" incoming soon (could be wishful thinking but current state of results is just.. SILLY)

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04-04-2018, 01:39 PM

Agreed with the majority of comments on here. The results aren't as accurate as they were.
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#127

04-04-2018, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by topadult

This is the first time I noticed Google released 2 updates in 1 month!

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04-04-2018, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by Bladewire

War on porn at full speed from all directions

This is not a war with porn but with all affiliate sites. porn gets by accident

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04-04-2018, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by magneto664

This is not a war with porn but with all affiliate sites. porn gets by accident

not true - the affiliate sites with useful information for the user and a broad range of alternatives are doing MUCH better then before.

what are effected are this kind of sites what are just made to send a user to one specific product (20 years ago we called them doorwaypages).

so IF a site is only made for selling one specific product and google can see that in the searchkey WHY should they send a user first to an affiliate site? that does not make sense.

if you search for amazon would you want they show you 100 affiliate sites and hide amazon.com ???

or if you search for "buying an iphone" would you expect to be send to a site what sends you to the shopping site or would you expect to see the shopping site right away?

this update is not done yet and it will takes weeks (if not months) til it is complete.
and after it is complete you will see even more fluctuation because google announced that already 2 years ago that they are working on a "single page index" what means nothing else that you can own a domain with 100 k subpages and if only ONE is relevant only this one page will appear (before the complete domain did not appear in such a case).
and they announced also that they will react in near real time.
and that means that your page can be number 1 in the morning and a few hours later you will not find it anymore.

I am wondering why everybody is so surprised about what happens - google told us LONG BEFORE what they are planing to do.

there is also not a war against porn.
I have a document from google what is deserved to their search qualitiy editors (they have hundreds up to thousands of them in each country) where they explain how to rate porn and erotic on a huge number of pages of this document . and there you can even see how difficult it is for them because the porn definition is different in every country.

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04-04-2018, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by thommy

this update is not done yet and it will takes weeks (if not months) til it is complete.
and after it is complete you will see even more fluctuation because google announced that already 2 years ago that they are working on a "single page index" what means nothing else that you can own a domain with 100 k subpages and if only ONE is relevant only this one page will appear (before the complete domain did not appear in such a case).
and they announced also that they will react in near real time.
and that means that your page can be number 1 in the morning and a few hours later you will not find it anymore.

I am wondering why everybody is so surprised about what happens - google told us LONG BEFORE what they are planing to do.

I don't know if they are planning to do that (single page index etc), but THIS update is NOT IT

they are still lightyears away from that on all aspects, IF it is even possible, considering google has huge issues with differentiating original content vs copied and usually disregards the originality in favor of site power (backlinks and infamous "trust" score)

in layman's terms.. you can write a super original mega article but if New York post or such republishes it AS IS a month after you, they'll rank above you for your article title and such

Originally posted by thommy

there is also not a war against porn.
I have a document from google what is deserved to their search qualitiy editors (they have hundreds up to thousands of them in each country) where they explain how to rate porn and erotic on a huge number of pages of this document . and there you can even see how difficult it is for them because the porn definition is different in every country.

I've seen that document too and it isn't all that problematic really

but regardless, algorithm and manual, they are doing a bad job in purging bad porn sites from top of serps

When their algorithm manages to penalize:
- insane amounts of ads
- traffic trading
- content scraping
- cloaking from googlebot

And when it actually starts to reward original content (first instance of it in index), then we will all have nice websites in mainstream and porn, with nice high quality stuff on them.

Until then...... we can only play a guessing game on wtf is their "core update" targeting.

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04-04-2018, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by SIK

this is how my google traffic behaved during march and beyond,
check this site:
https://www.semrush.com/info/mzansi.porn?db=us
few months old, 1.5 million.... top results for some ultra heavy keywords

and countless more scrape / embed tubes and such stuff across many porn niches that I checked

with all that being said, I somehow believe there is a "correction" incoming soon (could be wishful thinking but current state of results is just.. SILLY)

lol...registration date on 15 January 2018, and i just checked ahrefs...this dude has 499 referring domains, and 13.9Million organic traffic.
But this is not the original site. The site moved from freepornxxx.name->mzansi.porn , and the first backlink discovered at 12 May 2017. Lots of irrelevant domains, even music related ,from a large variety of countries.
Seems legit

More than obvious that these backlinks are not natural, so much for the "web spam" google team
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04-04-2018, 06:55 PM

Yay, I haven't seen our short keywords on page 1-2 in years. Usually was all the free sites. Good to see Scoreland and XLGirls up there.

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04-04-2018, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by Firestarter30

More than obvious that these backlinks are not natural, so much for the "web spam" google team

not only that but if you check the site itself, he got "xhamster videos", "xvideos porn" and such sections

considering I had my share of confusing google results (site: query was showing some totally unrelated sites), it could even be that google somehow valued his site more because he had xhamster and such branding in it

it's kind of a conspiracy theory but I don't know what to think anymore

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04-04-2018, 07:22 PM

just noticed the graph pic of my google traffic isn't working in post above, so here is another try to display it via remote host:

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04-04-2018, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by thommy

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this update is not done yet and it will takes weeks (if not months) til it is complete.
and after it is complete you will see even more fluctuation because google announced that already 2 years ago that they are working on a "single page index" what means nothing else that you can own a domain with 100 k subpages and if only ONE is relevant only this one page will appear (before the complete domain did not appear in such a case).
and they announced also that they will react in near real time.
and that means that your page can be number 1 in the morning and a few hours later you will not find it anymore.

I am wondering why everybody is so surprised about what happens - google told us LONG BEFORE what they are planing to do.

Do you have a source on this?

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04-04-2018, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by SIK

this is how my google traffic behaved during march and beyond, pretty much all sites on similar pattern (after being stable for ages):

also, porn serps are pretty ODD (to say the least)

example being, check this site:
https://www.semrush.com/info/mzansi.porn?db=us
few months old, 1.5 million.... top results for some ultra heavy keywords

and countless more scrape / embed tubes and such stuff across many porn niches that I checked

with all that being said, I somehow believe there is a "correction" incoming soon (could be wishful thinking but current state of results is just.. SILLY)

That graph looks like a fun roller coaster ride. LOL

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04-04-2018, 10:43 PM

The algorithm is working absolutely wrong right now. One of my sites lost almost all visits from Google, but still doing well because its content is 100% unique. On the other hand, the first pages are occupied by tubes with low quality content. These are results that completely refute the theory of quality content and uniqueness. On the contrary-currently Google is too far away from that.

Someone wrote about Amazon. On several of my sites I notice visits based on the keyword Amazon, which is ridiculous.

This update is not anti porn it's just anti search. For example I searched for dental xray lab yesterday. The first 2 results were OK, but the third was for a hypermarket with a section of professional cameras. So Google isn't doing well even with normal, domestic searches right now

I also believe that a great corrective update is imminent very soon because the last one is completely questionable.
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04-05-2018, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by thommy

not true - the affiliate sites with useful information for the user and a broad range of alternatives are doing MUCH better then before.

what are effected are this kind of sites what are just made to send a user to one specific product (20 years ago we called them doorwaypages).

so IF a site is only made for selling one specific product and google can see that in the searchkey WHY should they send a user first to an affiliate site? that does not make sense.

if you search for amazon would you want they show you 100 affiliate sites and hide amazon.com ???

or if you search for "buying an iphone" would you expect to be send to a site what sends you to the shopping site or would you expect to see the shopping site right away?

this update is not done yet and it will takes weeks (if not months) til it is complete.
and after it is complete you will see even more fluctuation because google announced that already 2 years ago that they are working on a "single page index" what means nothing else that you can own a domain with 100 k subpages and if only ONE is relevant only this one page will appear (before the complete domain did not appear in such a case).
and they announced also that they will react in near real time.
and that means that your page can be number 1 in the morning and a few hours later you will not find it anymore.

I am wondering why everybody is so surprised about what happens - google told us LONG BEFORE what they are planing to do.

there is also not a war against porn.
I have a document from google what is deserved to their search qualitiy editors (they have hundreds up to thousands of them in each country) where they explain how to rate porn and erotic on a huge number of pages of this document . and there you can even see how difficult it is for them because the porn definition is different in every country.

This " doc " that " you have " its a documentation for their "Quality Rating Guideline", basically for mainstream.. this doc dont explain at all "how to rate porn and erotic" like you said
SEO for porn and SEO for mainstream are two things, despite what googlers said
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04-05-2018, 02:35 AM

What I've seen from experience, Google's announced strategies and intentions never coincide exactly with how their algorithm displays on SERPs

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04-05-2018, 02:59 AM

Originally posted by Holy Damage

This " doc " that " you have " its a documentation for their "Quality Rating Guideline", basically for mainstream.. this doc dont explain at all "how to rate porn and erotic" like you said
SEO for porn and SEO for mainstream are two things, despite what googlers said

i doubt that you read it.

1st of all this documents explains the strategy of google overall and on pages 119-121 it is regarding how to rate porn in regards to country specific oddities.

i do not see a reason why google should explain their own editors something wrong, do you ?

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04-05-2018, 03:01 AM

Originally posted by Tdash

Do you have a source on this?

there is not ONE source for that. this is the sum of information google gave in the past years.

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04-05-2018, 04:27 AM

Once again, to summarize:

1. google quality raters don't have a difficult job - trained chimps could do it

2. this update has nothing to do with change of "google philosophy"

I wrote it nearly a month ago and I'm repeating it again, this all smells like some kind of backlink recalculation update gone wrong.

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04-05-2018, 05:04 AM

In this video we see the famous actress aidra fox showing themselves to us all. He begins teaching her beautiful body and how you can enjoy it herself. Then invites his friend to join your game, this puts into four and start making it do a cunnilingus maximum enjoyment. We can certainly a curious and piggy Aidra fox teaching how well it can pass a woman without a man always helps.

from random video on mzansu.porn/xvideos
4th result on first page for "sex videos"

with all the "quality filters" and smart AI algos... makes one wonder how the fuck can shit like this end up so high in serps

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04-05-2018, 05:33 AM

Originally posted by SIK

In this video we see the famous actress aidra fox showing themselves to us all. He begins teaching her beautiful body and how you can enjoy it herself. Then invites his friend to join your game, this puts into four and start making it do a cunnilingus maximum enjoyment. We can certainly a curious and piggy Aidra fox teaching how well it can pass a woman without a man always helps.

from random video on mzansu.porn/xvideos
4th result on first page for "sex videos"

with all the "quality filters" and smart AI algos... makes one wonder how the fuck can shit like this end up so high in serps

i don´t know in wich strange google DC you search.
i can not see even ONE result from this domain with a clean and private browser.

maybe you are too often on this domain that google is thinking you like it.

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04-05-2018, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by thommy

i don´t know in wich strange google DC you search.
i can not see even ONE result from this domain with a clean and private browser.

maybe you are too often on this domain that google is thinking you like it.

have you ever heard of individual search results?

Mr Google expert, feel free to check that domain with some keyword position tool if you don't believe me, or better yet, pull it through ahrefs/semrush or such

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04-05-2018, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by SIK

In this video we see the famous actress aidra fox showing themselves to us all. He begins teaching her beautiful body and how you can enjoy it herself. Then invites his friend to join your game, this puts into four and start making it do a cunnilingus maximum enjoyment. We can certainly a curious and piggy Aidra fox teaching how well it can pass a woman without a man always helps.

from random video on mzansu.porn/xvideos
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with all the "quality filters" and smart AI algos... makes one wonder how the fuck can shit like this end up so high in serps

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04-05-2018, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by SIK

Mr Google expert, feel free to check that domain with some keyword position tool if you don't believe me, or better yet, pull it through ahrefs/semrush or such

ok mister web expert you mean i should trust semrush more as what i can see though dotzends of proxies and clean private browsers ?

or more than alexa what shows me that this page have only users from the third world?

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/mzansi.porn

and what should be odd on this site?
it is a page like million others but he have done his homework.

he is more or less good in onpage optimizing and he is smart how to push the site with external links.

so what is wrong ?

i would not say he is the best in optimizing but he is better than 99% of the rest.
so what ?

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04-05-2018, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by thommy

..bullshit..

You are getting lost in your imaginary expertise.

First you were all about google smartness and hardcore reviewers regarding "single page index" and now you're calling THIS site better than 99% of the rest.

Hate to burst your bubble but that site features auto generated text (google got a lot to say about it in it's guidelines) as well as totally unrelated thousands of links, gathered over a very short time frame. Site SCREAMS with easily detectable blackhat tactics.

So, pretty please, finish the argument with yourself before starting one with me.

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04-05-2018, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by SIK

You are getting lost in your imaginary expertise.

First you were all about google smartness and hardcore reviewers regarding "single page index" and now you're calling THIS site better than 99% of the rest.

Hate to burst your bubble but that site features auto generated text (google got a lot to say about it in it's guidelines) as well as totally unrelated thousands of links, gathered over a very short time frame. Site SCREAMS with easily detectable blackhat tactics.

So, pretty please, finish the argument with yourself before starting one with me.

since when do you think a user is interested on the text?
the text helps google a bit to identify the content around you clown.

at the end of the day the result depends on the users behaviour. and if this guy is able to satisfy them better as you can - you should blame yourself and not google.

don´t worry - i will not tell you what he is doing right and what he is doing wrong - because as an expert as you seems to be you will easily find it by yourself and go to top positions with a finger snap or with help from semrush (same all the other million semrush users who are sharing the first google position)

so WHY are you complaining ????
you MUST be already number one in all big keys.

or are you not ?

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04-05-2018, 08:19 AM

Google is a wild animal and you will never understand and will never tame this "beast".
Don't rely on a search engine ranking to make money.

Don't think outside the square.
The best thinking is when you don't even think acknowledge there is a fucking square.

But to add to this conversation more directly, even some "brilliant" SEO people online are dumbfounded by currently update(s). I think we should all wait and see where the dust settles.
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