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02-27-2018, 02:29 PM | #1 |
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Sleep cycles (deep sleep etc), apps - anyone into it?
Do I understand it right - you would feel better rested if you woke up at lets say 6 am during light sleep than if you woke up at 9 am during deep sleep (or REM)? Even you actually slept extra 9 hours?
Because some articles seem to claim that. While I would assume it only applies to how easily you wake up/get out of the bed etc, not how rested you would feel during the day. Klentelaris pointed me there with his sleep cycle app recommendation |
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There are apps , I've tried only one but it did a shitty job, however I think with those smart sport bands (bracelets) which can monitor your heart rate etc you can get a better outcome.
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02-27-2018, 02:53 PM | #3 |
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Thats mine from last night. Not a great sleep but there yah go... |
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You just have to completely turn off your cellphone in order to sleep better ...
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Did you tried to set it to wake you up during the awake phase and did it helped?
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Well, in my experience i feel better if i wake up during light sleep then right after REM phase.
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Fitbit Alta HR on my wrist doing the tracking, and the readout I posted is from my iMac. It's on my phone too, but phone isn't really involved in tracking my sleep at all. It's all in the fitbit Quote:
Its not set to do anything or interact with me at all while I sleep. Its just tracks my sleep and shows me the results |
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Oh wait I thought that 'awake' (pink/red) phases on the graph mean that you are still sleeping but almost awake, but you are actually awake at those phases? So you wake up every one and a half hour each night?
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I've noticed that if I half wake up, check the time, go back to sleep, and check the time after more sleep, the gap is usually about 40 to 42 minutes.
If I wake up with less than 40 minutes to go before my alarm sounds, I usually don't bother going to back to sleep, because I'll end up feeling more shitty. So I reckon there is something to the claim. Better to wake up by yourself when your mind wants to rather than have an alarm pull you out of sleep. |
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I don't necessarily mean get up the first time you wake up, but if you have a specific time you must be awake by, better to get up when it's near that time than have a deep sleep cycle interrupted by an alarm.
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that is cool as fuck...I am getting one...
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The total minutes where I was not asleep (But not necessarily aware I was not asleep or did not get out of bed) In total comes to 1 hour 8 mins of the total time between 1.22 and 8.55 Like I said, it was a shit night really, but then I didn't select a 'good night' to display to you all, I just grabbed last nights readings to give a realistic picture of my sleep |
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i use Sleep Cycle on android and it's perfect.
It wakes you up in your most awake moment during the half-hour window before your selected time. Not a rude awakening since i'm using it.
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Do you sleep alone in your bed? Doesn't affect motion detection when there are two in bed?
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It record motions during night, tho latest version is using microphone instead, where it records snores.
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Yeah I tried something like that a few years ago and it did not worked well (but maybe my phone was shitty at the time).. but its not draining the battery much?
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Sleepcycle require charger to be plugged in, so i gonna guess how it drain battery much
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I've tried a few apps but none of them seemed to make much difference.
I think in order to get a clear picture, you need to try a gadget that you wear, that somehow senses when you fall asleep, and senses how much deep sleep you get, etc. And even then, I would question its accuracy. I'm not sure, but I *think* I do all of my Rem sleep very late in my sleep cycle. In the mornings I find that I am dreaming like crazy and when I wake up, I feel completely exhausted, as if I am not getting enough Rem sleep. I don't know if this is true, but it sure seems like it.
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That's the same one I have.
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Imagine - 15th minute and you are kind of at a good moment. But how would anyone (and that app) know if this already your best moment in that 30 minute range? Maybe you would have much better moment in 25th minute. So all it does - wakes you up most likely in a kind of very good moment, but not necessary in the best moment within that 30 minute frame. So you were lucky not to ever have deep sleep phase during that 30 minute period? |
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It does not. I mean they make it seem as it is required (misleading), but it is not. And it does not drain much, I mean probably 10% or whatever. Don't quote me on that, just that it did not drain much when I tested it for couple nights.
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What if that affect results?
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Adultium: "Do you sleep alone in your bed? Doesn't affect motion detection when there are two in bed?"
When i didn't sleep alone it still worked well. (my ex wasn't very fidgety when sleeping) Paul&John: "Is it paired with a bracelet or it just records the whole night and analyzes the sleep cycles?" No bracelet, just put it next to you in the bed. Not sure though if it analyzes movement or sound or both. Probably just movements. I couldn't sleep in a bracelet easily. It would throw me off. mineistaken: "So all it does - wakes you up most likely in a kind of very good moment, but not necessary in the best moment within that 30 minute frame." That's the point.. of course it can not foretell if you are going to be more awake in 10 minutes. but there is a threshold (probably set on the recent times and maybe based on your habits) that is surpassed, it wakes you up. Normally when i yawn or turn around to my other side, etc. And deep sleep happened maybe once or twice. then the alarm went off right at the set time (ie. at the end of the 30min window)
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i buyed my apple watch just for that and never find the way to setup that :S
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I just tried that Sleep Cycle app via microphone and it told me to try the accelerometer instead.. will try it tonight. Maybe it can't work when two people are 'snoring' around lol
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Yeah same happened to me lol, says how i should move it closer to bed.
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Then I put it directly on the bed, near the pillow. Worked, but I dislike that, I anticipate that I can drop it on the floor. Suggestions? |
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Trial and error, nothing else
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