Paul Markham

They give those tax breaks to companies that stay in the country and employ, make things and add something to the wealth of the country. And end up paying more in taxes than they would by moving out of the country.

Without the military hardware, you would be invaded and living under a foreign government.

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mine are non gmo! and i dont kill the plants you old fuking ghoul

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beerptrol

lol once again you talk about something you know jack shit about. Those tomato harvesters pull/rip the entire tomato plant out of the ground
If you would have bothered to watch the first video you posted you would have seen that lol

Here's another little tid bit. They have to use a variety of tomato with a thicker skin so it can withstand the mechanical beating it takes. These are great for sauces

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pimpmaster9000

there is no solution to paul markhaming...everybody wants the cheap foreign products, like paul, and they will do everything to avoid hiring their own countrymen, like paul...

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Because they’re not the same ya big dummy.

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pimpmaster9000

avoiding taxes through loopholes is the same thing under any other name...

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Then how do you grow carrots, potatoes and cabbages every year from the same plant?

So are you happy to pay the extras in taxes to cover the benefits of migrants just so they can keep coming? I calculate your cheap food should carry an extra 10% tax so farmers can keep the cheap labour.

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Says someone who never grew tomatoes. They have to be grown from seeds every year.

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OneHungLo

There's a big difference between tax deferred and a tax write-off. I guess all the people that have Roth IRAs are leeches as well?

And whole premise of your argument is that I'm a leech and artificially raising real estate prices by buying and renting multifamily properties is laughable. I guess you could make an argument that people buying up real estate, specifically real estate that the income doesn't cover the expenses for a tax write-off could possibly affect home prices (supply vs demand), but that's not what I do here because the tax laws don't allow me to do it.

But again, I don't know enough about negative gearing to make a statement. Like I said, on its face you could say buying up all those properties just for a TAX WRITE-OFF will most likely raise the prices and price people out of the market (BAD), but then again many people have their net worth tied up in their homes so their net worth rises and ancillary effects of higher priced property such as higher property taxes would be good for the city/town (GOOD).

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beerptrol

Please stop. You're so fucking stupid and senile

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pimpmaster9000

everybody who speculates on housing is a leech...you see the banks literally print money out of thin air and this creates debt and inflation...how much did prices of real estate rise in the USA in the last 10 years? Like 100%?

the ones with access to the printed-out-of-thin-air money leech off of those who do not have access to it...it is undemocratic allocation of money and creating debt that is payed off by working people and the money goes to leeches and parasites...

whether its tax differed or a write off makes little difference...the core idea of real estate investing is parasitic...this is why homes in san francisco for example cost 1.000.000$

how every you look at it, no matter how many people have their net worth in it, it is a parasitic practice...

also banks prefer this speculative investment over investment in creating jobs for example...it is classic trickle up...

you are a leech

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OneHungLo

So who owns or supplies housing in crucifissio's make believe world? The government? Are you communist? And does this apply to other businesses you could potentially take a loan out for? Such as a grocery or liquor store, or anything else you buy in bulk to make a profit (aka leeching).

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pimpmaster9000

printed-out-of-thin-air money that is given to individuals who will create a business and jobs is good...the west was built by creating massive debt there is no doubt about this...

printed-out-of-thin-air money that is given to the wealthy few so that they can bulk buy property for profit is bad...I am not even taking the tax breaks in to account here...

many more people would be able to afford housing, and have greater disposable income and the market would be better for everybody if bulk buying of property for profit was outlawed...when I was in london the entire side of the street where I lived belonged to the duke of something (I do not remember his title)...trickle up

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So basically, according to crucifissio, if I work hard and save up enough money for a down payment on a multifamily, buy it, manage it, create money through my hard work, good management of my investment, I'm a leech? Maybe to a communist or socialist but certainly not a capitalist.

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OneHungLo

You didn't tell me how it's supposed to work. Who provides housing if you take away individual property rights?

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pimpmaster9000

I am not advocating taking away individual property rights...I am saying that bulk purchase of real estate, for profit, obviously increases real estate prices and makes it inaccessible for normal people by means of inflated price...how hard is that to understand?

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But how does it work? Obviously not *everyone* can afford a home because there are so many factors that go into home prices, raw material costs, land etc., so who supplies people with housing?

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OneHungLo

So if I take a loan out and build an 100 unit apartment complex, I'm inflating the price of single family homes?

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pimpmaster9000

more people would be able to afford a home and not be in rent slavery if houses were cheaper and banks and speculators did not mass abuse the undemocratic allocation of printed-out-of-thin-air money...for example I built a 5 apartment house on a plot of land for 50.000 euros...there were no bank credits back then, hyperinflation and sanctions made it impossible to get one...I got cheap materials because there was no great demand for it and the plot of land was basically worthless I got it from my grandmother...truth be told I did not finish the interior bathrooms and there are no kitchens its just an empty house with walls and windows...I did not need a bank credit...I could have built a 1 apartment home for around 15K easily and installed bathroom tiles and a kitchen etc...

you are falsely assuming that nobody would have homes if people like you do not buy shit up in bulk with printed out of thin air money...this is simply not true...more people could afford homes if crony speculation was not such a "thing"...

it is hilarious that you try to paint your profession as a necessity

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you said you try to find multi appartment units and buy them to rent them out with some down payment...you said nothing about building new units...

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Oh so building a multifamily apartment building vs buy an established one changes the game? be real commie.

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OneHungLo

Ok but your basically saying they should outlaw people from owning multifamily homes and supply apartments to people who can't afford to buy a home. What about the people that don't want a home? There are many people that choose to rent because they don't want the upkeep of maintaining a home like lawncare, clogged toilets, pipes breaking, roof leaking etc. WHO PROVIDES THE HOUSING FOR THEM?

Why don't you just come out and say it. You want the government to do it.

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pimpmaster9000

yes it changes the game because you expect to make a profit on an already built property and this only raises the price because you parasite in...building a new property is fine...the more properties on the market the lower the price...

I would tax the shit out of anybody who makes money this way to discourage property hoarding...I am not advocating any seizure of property...

your reasons for people not wanting a home are invalid...they still get to pay for those services because rent will cost them that much more...if property was not a speculative bubble lots of people could afford it...

the government should provide cheap housing to its citizens...they would be free from debt slavery and have larger disposable incomes and this in turn would stimulate the economy more evenly...the way the system is set now, money-out-of-thin-air stimulates a housing racket and the funds just trickle up...

this is why I consider you a leech...

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OneHungLo

So now you want the government building housing and competing with the free market. Do you have any idea how inefficient the government is? You really think that shit would stimulate the economy? What about the housing sector? The builders, architects, plumbers, carpenters, electricians iron workers etc? What about 300 Billion home improvement industry?

What about the poor SOB that's worked for the past 40 years and has paid down his mortgage now wants to sell his home, downsize and move to Florida to rent a condo down by the beach? OHhhhh sorry sir, your home is now worth $20,000 so you'll have to now work till your 85 and you'll have to put those retirement plans on on hold.

You didn't put much thought into this did you, commie?

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OneHungLo

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pimpmaster9000

there is nothing stopping people from building homes if the government starts building them as well...all your arguments above are invalid...the gov does not even have to build it it can sub contract private companies to build it...

if the USA spent 600 billion/year on building homes instead of """"""""""""defense""""""""""" it could make 6 million homes/year at 100K/apartment and give it to people who are struggling...their quality of life would improve and their disposable income would skyrocket instead of having to pay parasites like you...

even if its 3 million homes/year it would make a massive contribution to your economy in 10 years time...ALL americans would be better off and not just the ones with money...

as for people with retirement plans this is a bullshit point its not like 1000million homes would be dumped on the market in one day...3 million homes spread across the USA in one year given to low income families would not dent the speculation bubble too much...make the government homes not for sale or rent, just for living...

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https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&s....0.tWqenTZgK9Y

Try and find the part where they say the tomato plant is a perennial.

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Cruci lives in a world where the government provides housing. Is he willing to pay more taxes so the government can afford to keep building year on year?

Taxpayers are more cautious of what they want their government to charge them for.

Market demands govern prices bigger demand than supply, prices rise. Clinton came up with a winning formula to give everyone a house and look where that ended up.

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pimpmaster9000

I actually grow tomatoes LOL

the plant can grow for years in the right climate...my grows are usually for 5-7 months depending on the climate that year and the amount of sunny days and the current market conditions...the plant reaches 10-15 meters easily and it reaches the ceiling of the greenhouse and is bent down to grow downwards...it is suspended from the ceiling and I have special plastic rings that taught the rope that holds the plant...

collecting seeds and growing is super easy but your yield will be much better if you buy already formed "clones" because the first few weeks of the plants life heavily impact your gains...this is for high yield commercial production I pump out 20 metric tonnes of tomatoes from every 1000 meters square over a single season...

there are types of tomatoes that are perennial like the tamarillo...also the chineese giant tomato tree...30.000 tomatoes from one plant per year...I like the dutch indoor "raissa" strain...super high gain, super resistant, super uniform "A class" product for 95% of all picked fruit...it works great in my climate...

so as usual, you are clueless...no surprise...go google something else LOL

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my friend has a factory and he built 150 apartments for his workers and gave them out for free, it was tax deductible for him...he improved the quality of his workers lives significantly and it cost him literally nothing...those same workers now have a greater disposable income and they stimulate the economy much more than a single land lord would...

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80 million starved to death just in india
100-s of millions in china because of an opium trade that was enforced by the british military
100 million in the americas
100 million easily in africa...
10-s of millions through US invasion and sanctions over """""democracy""""" for farmers who could not care less

commies can not hold a candle to this...

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That's because communism is a stupid authoritarian system that has never been adopted.

Many historians have suggested that Stalin was responsible for death total of around 20 million, citing much higher victim totals from executions, Gulag camps, deportations and other causes. Simon Sebag Montefiore suggested that Stalin was ultimately responsible for the deaths of between 20 and 25 million people..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number...oseph_ Stalin

Mao's Great Leap Forward 'killed 45 million in four years'

Estimates of the total number of deaths resulting from Khmer Rouge policies, including disease and starvation, range from 1.7 to 2.5 million out of a 1975 population of roughly 8 million. In 1979, Vietnam invaded Democratic Kampuchea and toppled the Khmer Rouge regime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_...Killing_Fields

Just three in a short time. Tell me again how communism is so great for the people.

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In a greenhouse or indoors, you can grow anything the year round. I'm talking about outside where frost kills off plants.

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Give us a link to this entrepreneur. 150 x $100,000 = $15,000,000.

If we all had that kind of money and lived in a cheap country like Serbia, there would be no housing crisis.

https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&b.... RRCTWr_5Na4

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the apartments cost like 500$/square meter total to make with ALL costs included (land/permits/tax/credit/material) in that part of town...most of them were 50-60 square meters and this is the normal size for blue collar homes in 3rd world countries...so each apartment cost 25-30K$ total...he took out a 20year credit from the bank and it will be tax deductible for him for the next 20 years and it works out to like 250K/year...no newspaper is going to report this so there is no "link"...it is normal in my country for the company to give out apartments for its workers even under capitalism...

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Commiefussio thinks the government can build apartments for 100k. The government couldn't build a 5x5 tree fort for 100k.

Commiefussio wants to make homes in the US worthless, effectively wiping out a 32 TRILLION dollar real estate market. But but but poor people deserve a free house.

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pimpmaster9000

that is not what I said at all but you are backed in to a corner with your parasite business arguments and I understand that you have to resort to making shit up...just like paul does LOL

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You’re advocating that the government build and give houses away for free. What do you think that will do to the real estate market? Of course it’s going to crush it. What if we replace houses with cars. What do you think would happen to GM and Ford?

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pimpmaster9000

I am advocating the most capitalist thing ever: grow your own buyers...

instead of exploding money abroad and feeding the military lobby, go and use the money to create americans with disposable income who do not debt slave to a few landlords...this in turn will stimulate the economy and if done gradually will not affect the real estate market too much and the parasites will have time to switch to gold or some other speculative shit...it will stimulate the economy more than anything in history...it is capitalist as shit...predatory investing in real estate would be gradually phased out...

if you do not like this idea you are a commie...in communism the few control the means of production and this is money...wassup commie do you not want your countrymen to prosper? freedom for all? americans with much more disposable income?

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Having the government come in and give away free houses will crush the 32 TRILLION dollar real estate market. You're fucking clueless. Just replace houses with cars. If the government came in and gave millions of people free government cars, what would it do to the auto industry? and that's only a 1.7 trillion industry!

You're either a communist or at the very least a socialist. What you're doing is income redistribution.

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pimpmaster9000

it will not crush the market if it is done gradually...give the leeches time to adapt...you are completely ignoring the massive positive effect it will have in the long run...you can repeat "it will crash the market" all you want but housing is not something that should be speculated with and it is very possible to gradually phase out predatory investing in housing...

you could also slowly start introducing free medicine...free college...have debt free citizens who have disposable income...this is what keeps an economy strong...

it is pure capitalism...you are a fucking commie if you do not want citizens to have more disposable income and not have to trickle that money up...

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Yeah, yeah..free free free.. you socialists love free everything. Only problem is who's paying for it all??

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pimpmaster9000

your military industrial protection racket...you already explode money...why not invest it in americans and not the crony lobby?...

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I do agree with you there. I'm all for cutting that down military spending and putting the money towards free college education...but no way in hell am I'm for the government giving away free houses to poor people. They would most likely just destroy them anyway. I've seen first hand what these animals do to the free shit. I have a section8 tenants and they don't give a fuck about the property. They live like animals.

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pimpmaster9000

give the housing to families...people with jobs...many people are struggling but have normal jobs...the vast majority will not vandalize anything...

shit most people in my country got free apartments and nobody destroyed anything...I do not know a single person who would do that..

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LOL..my friend, it comes down to demographics... I'll leave it at that.

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OneHungLo

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hello parasite...how is the leeching going today?

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No proof so you lied.

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you are the dumbest fuck on this forum by far

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