2018 Gun ban bill bans every semiauto

[onwebcam]

READ IT

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...bill/5087/text

[2MuchMark]

This is a good start!

Finally, Trump does something good.

[brassmonkey]

you better prep now you think this is going to be???

[Matt-ADX]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

This is a good start!

Finally, Trump does something good.

It will never pass. If Democrats really were wise, they would actually suck up to Trump. If one thing is evident, he plays to the room and wants to be liked. If they fawned over him he would keep doing what he did a couple days ago, go against his base and look like a total fool to them.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

This is a good start!

Finally, Trump does something good.

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

It will never pass. If Democrats really were wise, they would actually suck up to Trump. If one thing is evident, he plays to the room and wants to be liked. If they fawned over him he would keep doing what he did a couple days ago, go against his base and look like a total fool to them.

Or he plays the room.... His comment made everyone pay attention..... Think about that.. Then have a look at this bill.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

This is a good start!

Finally, Trump does something good.

[Matt-ADX]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Or he plays the room.... His comment made everyone pay attention..... Think about that.. Then have a look at this bill.

He plays to the room, that's for sure.

[onwebcam]

Here are the guns you are allowed to have according to this bill. Pretty much a single shot weapon or antique.

“(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession, sale, or transfer of any semiautomatic assault weapon otherwise lawfully possessed under Federal law on the date of enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban of 2018.

“(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to any firearm that—

“(A) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action;

“(B) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or

“(C) is an antique firearm, as defined in section 921 of this title.

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Here are the guns you are allowed to have according to this bill. Pretty much a single shot weapon or antique.

?(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession, sale, or transfer of any semiautomatic assault weapon otherwise lawfully possessed under Federal law on the date of enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban of 2018.

?(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to any firearm that?

?(A) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action;

?(B) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or

?(C) is an antique firearm, as defined in section 921 of this title.

I wouldn't trust you with a glue gun, let alone a real one!

[TampaToker]

Just a publicly stunt like the Florida bill was when they shipped the the kids to Tallahassee and there bill was shot down. These guys sat on national television and lied right to everyone's face and said they do not wanna take guns away. All you had to do was actually read the bill to see this

[PornDiscounts-V]

But all guns already made and in possession are still legal. So hundreds of millions. Expect home robberies for the purpose of getting to those grandfathered guns to go up.

[VRPdommy]

...LOL...
Like most issues, it will never make the floor for a vote. And the authors and sponsors know it. But it shows you tried. There is a election coming. Everyone has a need to show they supported one hard-line issue if it is popular in their districts.

What strikes me is how few of you realize that or can find one of the dozen or so that have been drafted this year.
Ya pick one to get folks worked up.

And I sit here and laugh at you all for falling for all the optical plots. It works and causes them all to continue to do it.

So you understand how they keep their jobs.... they are simply smarter than you !
And I say that for no matter which side of the isle you stand in.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by VRPdommy

...LOL...
Like most issues, it will never make the floor for a vote. And the authors and sponsors know it. But it shows you tried. There is a election coming. Everyone has a need to show they supported one hard-line issue if it is popular in their districts.

What strikes me is how few of you realize that or can find one of the dozen or so that have been drafted this year.
Ya pick one to get folks worked up.

And I sit here and laugh at you all for falling for all the optical plots. It works and causes them all to continue to do it.

So you understand how they keep their jobs.... they are simply smarter than you !
And I say that for no matter which side of the isle you stand in.

This is THE "Assault Weapons Ban of 2018" bill... Hence the name of the bill.. Filed on the 26th..... No doubt it has been submitted and tried in many forms.. But this is the bill answering to Parkland... The bill being discussed everywhere.

[Rochard]

While I doubt this will pass, eventually it will. The NRA and gun lovers have a choice between doing what is right or having their gun rights extremely limited. The 2nd amendment has always had limitations to it - We have the rights to bare arms, but not the right to a machine gun. They can do the right thing, or face stricter laws.

It's stunning to me people have to be twenty-one to legally drink, but can buy a AR-15 at age eighteen. (At the same time I remember being a eighteen year old Marine expected to kill for my country, yet I couldn't legally drink. Although no one ever carded back then.)

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Rochard

While I doubt this will pass, eventually it will. The NRA and gun lovers have a choice between doing what is right or having their gun rights extremely limited. The 2nd amendment has always had limitations to it - We have the rights to bare arms, but not the right to a machine gun. They can do the right thing, or face stricter laws.

It's stunning to me people have to be twenty-one to legally drink, but can buy a AR-15 at age eighteen. (At the same time I remember being a eighteen year old Marine expected to kill for my country, yet I couldn't legally drink. Although no one ever carded back then.)

Honestly, I've always felt that the fact a 18 yo can serve in the military and be tried as an adult but can't drink til 21 is a bit double standard. I don't see 18 year olds being able to buy a AR as the issue.. The issue is guns like those should require serious background checks and be heavily restricted like a full auto is.

The average person, no matter if 18 or 35 should not be able to walk into a store and buy a military rifle. If you can pass background checks and be registered with something like a CCW permit that expires and has to be reissued then that's the way it should be.

Those sort of guns should only be in the hands to citizens who can handle the responsibility after proving they can. They should not be as easily accessible as they are now.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

I wouldn't trust you with a glue gun, let alone a real one!

He lives in Russia, citizens aren't allowed to own an AR-15's in Russia

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

It will never pass. If Democrats really were wise, they would actually suck up to Trump. If one thing is evident, he plays to the room and wants to be liked. If they fawned over him he would keep doing what he did a couple days ago, go against his base and look like a total fool to them.

I know... but I'm so hard on Trumpy I feel like I have to give him a pass once in a while.

Question for Republicans:

You all saw what Trump did in that meeting. Does it freak you out at all?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crockett

Honestly, I've always felt that the fact a 18 yo can serve in the military and be tried as an adult but can't drink til 21 is a bit double standard. I don't see 18 year olds being able to buy a AR as the issue.. The issue is guns like those should require serious background checks and be heavily restricted like a full auto is.

The average person, no matter if 18 or 35 should not be able to walk into a store and buy a military rifle. If you can pass background checks and be registered with something like a CCW permit that expires and has to be reissued then that's the way it should be.

Those sort of guns should only be in the hands to citizens who can handle the responsibility after proving they can. They should not be as easily accessible as they are now.

I couldn't agree more. No one should have an AR-15.

I love the entire "It's not an assault rifle" debate. LOL. Okay, fine. We are now officially calling it an "assault weapon". It's an assault weapon that happens to be a rifle...

I don't even understand the entire argument. It's not an assault rifle because it doesn't go full auto? One of the first things they taught us at Paris Island is that you never ever EVER use full auto.

It's like taking a brand new Ferrari, putting a eight cylinder Chevy engine in it, and saying it's not a Ferrari. I don't care what engine is in it, and I don't care how fast it goes - it's still a fucking Ferrari.

We are handing out assault weapons to eighteen year old kids only because they want one.

[VRPdommy]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

This is THE "Assault Weapons Ban of 2018" bill... Hence the name of the bill.. Filed on the 26th..... No doubt it has been submitted and tried in many forms.. But this is the bill answering to Parkland... The bill being discussed everywhere.

Exactly... Re-Read my statement, I don't think you understand what I said at all.
You are making my point for me !

[VRPdommy]

Originally Posted by crockett

Honestly, I've always felt that the fact a 18 yo can serve in the military and be tried as an adult but can't drink til 21 is a bit double standard. I don't see 18 year olds being able to buy a AR as the issue.. The issue is guns like those should require serious background checks and be heavily restricted like a full auto is.

The average person, no matter if 18 or 35 should not be able to walk into a store and buy a military rifle. If you can pass background checks and be registered with something like a CCW permit that expires and has to be reissued then that's the way it should be.

Those sort of guns should only be in the hands to citizens who can handle the responsibility after proving they can. They should not be as easily accessible as they are now.

I would pretty much agree with most all of that. And I have argued with my friends in the same manor.
The NRA use to be about gun safety and training along with your second amendment right to have and hold it in protection of your life and property. No more.
They have tried to make it a unconditional right to have and use anywhere and anytime with anything.

That argument I have had with my fellow gun toting friends, that I am one of, is that if you resist common sense rules, you risk the bad things we all know will happen and since we Americans are very knee-jerk reactionary folks, will at some point hit a wall that will be a reversal far worse than they were in fear of in the first place.

Reciprocity of concealed carry sounds good to some of these 'blind believers', but think about the implications that will tie the courts up for decades.

If I live in a state like Ohio, where it is a felony to enter a bar with a firearm, and because of this rule, if you are from a state and received your concealed carry from a state that does not recognize that, it renders that rule meaningless for you but not for me.
Just one of many things I could write a book on for this stupid thinking.
But it is a attempt to render all rules meaningless when it comes to firearms period through the court system.

Heck, I remember all of those that resisted gun registration back in the 70's and 80's.
But those same folks are getting those concealed carry. Which has the same effect of saying 'yes, I'm one of those that have guns'. Very stupid.

They tried to convince me to get mine and I reply...
Why do I need a concealed carry permit to protect myself on my own property.
I have no intention to use them anywhere else unless hunting game for food, not sport.
But they now wear those permits like a badge of honer. Go figure.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

This is a good start!

Finally, Trump does something good.

What's not good about the Wall and the tariffs on imported steel?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by crockett

Honestly, I've always felt that the fact a 18 yo can serve in the military and be tried as an adult but can't drink til 21 is a bit double standard. I don't see 18 year olds being able to buy a AR as the issue.. The issue is guns like those should require serious background checks and be heavily restricted like a full auto is.

The average person, no matter if 18 or 35 should not be able to walk into a store and buy a military rifle. If you can pass background checks and be registered with something like a CCW permit that expires and has to be reissued then that's the way it should be.

Those sort of guns should only be in the hands to citizens who can handle the responsibility after proving they can. They should not be as easily accessible as they are now.

The first question in the background check should be, "Why do you need such a powerful weapon?". That will stop all sales.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V

But all guns already made and in possession are still legal. So hundreds of millions. Expect home robberies for the purpose of getting to those grandfathered guns to go up.

Buy a burglar alarm. Problem solved.