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bronco67 03-01-2018 07:16 AM

Nice start, but it's a small gesture.

"nipping around the edges" as they say.

brassmonkey 03-01-2018 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22224735)
IMO you are the last person who should own a gun.

oh stfu old ghoul

directfiesta 03-01-2018 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22224403)
god i wish i were like 19. i would get a lawyer and go walmart shopping at least 3 stores and file a lawsuit! this is not legal! it's not law! it's like a bartender raising the drinking limit to 50 because the younger crowd fights drunk

Aren't you guys always preaching that private business can do business with whom they want ?

2MuchMark 03-01-2018 07:59 AM

Walmart should really show some balls and force background checks on every buyer even if they are not legally required to do so.

Paul Markham 03-01-2018 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22224979)
oh stfu old ghoul

Why? Am I talking common sense?

Robbie 03-01-2018 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22224845)
Well trips down memory lane are great Robbie, but I think you will find that the phrase "active shooter" is a modern addition to the national lexicon.

Anyone who has brought up a teenager will tell you that at their worst they are a toxic mix of hormones, mood swings, vile outbursts and unpleasant odours.

But it passes, and its not personal.

A couple of years later all is well, you fix your relationship with them, and they become decent human beings again. Managing the worst years are tough, but you get there.

So do you really want hormone ridden modern teens shooting up the place because we cannot make laws that move with the times ?

:2 cents:

I agree that a teenager is a dangerous person.

And what I am saying is this: How can you say an 18 year old is a legal adult...but then deny them their constitutional right to own a gun?
Or tell them that they can't buy a beer?

Either you ARE a legal Adult with full rights or you are not.

If they want to tell a full grown man at 18 that he can't do what a 21 year old can do...then change the legal age of an adult to 21.

Being 18 years old apparently means you are a second class citizen.
So if we are going to treat an 18, 19, or 20 year old man or woman like little kids...then make them "kids" legally too.
Raise the legal age of "adult" to 21.

I'm sure that soon enough you'll have to be 50 to buy a beer or a gun. And then the govt. will decide that 60 is too old and we will end up with a 10 year window to actually be adults. lol

GAMEFINEST 03-01-2018 02:26 PM

Will it make a difference? Not really, you can just wait a little longer.

Bladewire 03-01-2018 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22224985)
Aren't you guys always preaching that private business can do business with whom they want ?

Only when the business is doing what they want. They feel the same about freedom of speech and gun ownership as well. Robbie will tell you that the only places they should have stricter gun controls are districts with large black populations.

TheDynasty 03-01-2018 04:28 PM

Walmart and Dick?s Raise Minimum Age for Gun Buyers to 21

kane 03-01-2018 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDynasty (Post 22225637)
Walmart and Dick?s Raise Minimum Age for Gun Buyers to 21

Kroger announced they will be doing the same.

It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. Will there be lawsuits or boycotts? I guess we will find out.

directfiesta 03-01-2018 04:52 PM

When the President and gov. officials do not lead , corporations show the way ...


ain't that true, Robbie ?

Robbie 03-01-2018 06:19 PM

Not sure why you are asking me a biased and rather unintelligent question like that.

But since you did I will try my best to explain it to you:
Walmart (and any other corporation) is NOT "leading the way" on anything.

They are succumbing to organized pressure from a small group of people who claim to represent the majority of people.

It's called making a BUSINESS decision. They are weighing what they can get from positive news coverage on CNN VS a possible backlash from people who don't appreciate having their constitutional rights taken from them.

It's theoretically the PEOPLE "leading the way". Whether that turns out to be real or not...we shall see.

If it garners them more money from a good PR perspective...then they will continue it.
If it costs them money and causes them a problem financially they will stop it.

It's not hard to figure out. It's how everything in the real world really works.

I still have to question HOW you can deny a citizen their Constitutional rights. And "no", it's already been proven in courts that you can NOT deny selling something to someone based on age, religion, sexual preference, race, etc.
So that may turn out to be quite interesting if someone brings a case to court.

The only way that I personally think Walmart can do this would be to stop selling guns completely.
If you aren't going to sell them to every legal adult, then you are better off just dropping the product.

But again...it's all about the money. As it should be for any business.

directfiesta 03-01-2018 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22225751)
Not sure why you are asking me a biased and rather unintelligent question like that.

But since you did I will try my best to explain it to you:
Walmart (and any other corporation) is NOT "leading the way" on anything.

They are succumbing to organized pressure from a small group of people who claim to represent the majority of people.

It's called making a BUSINESS decision. They are weighing what they can get from positive news coverage on CNN VS a possible backlash from people who don't appreciate having their constitutional rights taken from them.

It's theoretically the PEOPLE "leading the way". Whether that turns out to be real or not...we shall see.

If it garners them more money from a good PR perspective...then they will continue it.
If it costs them money and causes them a problem financially they will stop it.

It's not hard to figure out. It's how everything in the real world really works.

I still have to question HOW you can deny a citizen their Constitutional rights. And "no", it's already been proven in courts that you can NOT deny selling something to someone based on age, religion, sexual preference, race, etc.
So that may turn out to be quite interesting if someone brings a case to court.

The only way that I personally think Walmart can do this would be to stop selling guns completely.
If you aren't going to sell them to every legal adult, then you are better off just dropping the product.

But again...it's all about the money. As it should be for any business.

An example of not selling to a certain group:

A lot of hardware, general store refuse to sell aerosol paint to teenagers ( graffiti ) ....

Robbie 03-01-2018 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22225765)
An example of not selling to a certain group:

A lot of hardware, general store refuse to sell aerosol paint to teenagers ( graffiti ) ....

Never heard of that before...BUT, having said that...if the teenagers are UNDER 18 then the store can get away with that.

If it were LEGAL ADULTS then there might be a problem there for them.

That was my point that you are missing...EVERY citizen of LEGAL AGE has civil rights. And the courts have ruled over and over that you can't refuse them service based on who they are.

Now stores do have signs that say "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"...but the courts have said time and again that there is no such "right" that supersedes our civil rights as citizens of the United States.

I don't know if anyone will even challenge it or not. But I do believe that IF they did take Walmart to court and approached it from a Constitutional direction...it would be an interesting court case.

The best way to "solve" this supposed "problem" is to raise the legal age to 21 to be an adult.

I think it's stupid myself...but it just makes sense legally to do so. I don't see how you can say an 18 year old ADULT is LESS protected by our Constitution than a 21 year old ADULT.

See what I'm saying?

PornDiscounts-V 03-02-2018 12:33 PM

About fucking time.


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