Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22212891)

I am from serbia...we have on average 100-150murders/year of those maybe half are by gun...our population is 7 million...we have the #2 gun per capita...

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22212889)

You do realize that people of Japanese ancestry were imprisoned for having Japanese Ancestry here in the U.S. during WWII. In other words, it is something that actually happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...nese_Americans




You are talking about taking away a right that is guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. Why is one right more important to you than another right?




If you want to change the law and outlaw guns then you need to amend the constitution. There is a process for that. People don't want to use the process because it is much easier to just usurp someone's rights then it is to use the system as it was deigned to be used.

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22212905)

You thought your daughter?

Case closed. You gun nuts are retarded.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22212917)

Yea, I know all about history.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22212913)

so in other words, you can't compare your country to ours, the state of California has 39 million for a population and the strictest gun regulations in the country. You can't even will some guns to your kids anymore.
There were 1,368 gun-related homicides in 2016 in California

This is just one state

And back to what I said, the person that said pry it from my dead cold hand was Charlton Heston, he marched with MLK jr and was a champion of several causes.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22212905)

You thought your daughter?

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22212903)

I should be more clear, there should be 1 at every unlocked entrance to the school. 1 for my entire high school would probably have been useless as well.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22212939)

murder rates per 100K

USA 4.88
serbia 1.13

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22212945)

Lame to pick on a typo. It was obviously supposed to be "taught".

Last refuge when losing the argument, jump on the spelling and grammar.

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22212765)

how do you feel about gun regulations based on zip codes? areas with the highest gun issues get the tightest regulations, like you can't put a bar near a school. taking a gun into a bar in Texas is automatically 'x' number of years.

that kind of regulations. like you get caught with a gun in 'x' zip code off you go... or say within 100 yards of a school. that can get passed pretty quick and will be effective with a few searches

and BTW all the hysteria and childish forewarning isn't really necessary for me okay?

years ago , like in 2001-2002 when I was running ads for models I kept having this experience of a guy showing up with the model demanding to paid for a test shot... so I got a gun.... because about 2 years before that a *black guy* went into the apartment next door to me, with a shotgun, and did the 2 girls living there and calmly walked away...

man when that shotgun was going off next door and I only had fucking drywall and a shitty apartment door between me and that shotgun... boy oh boy did I feel STUPID :thumbsup

I got a gun. a 1911 in fact. years later when I was sleeping I heard a door open and the floor creak in my 'new' apartment. I got the 1911, slid back the slide real slow and quiet, held the gun behind my back, low and walked out of my bedroom to find a guy in my bathroom chopping coke lines with his DL on the bathroom counter.. wtf lol!!!

I looked at the dude and said take that shit and get the fuck out of here... he didn't even look up, he shoved all the coke back on his DL and walked the fuck out lollolol

he never saw the gun. I'm ontop of my shit okay? don't really need the hysteria.

now where I live now I used to have models stay here. one model got some weed from me told me she would pay me when she paid the rent. cool, right? her BF would come everyday and pick her up and bring her back at night most of the time.

when the week was up I saw her in the room, she told me she was leaving to go to an ATM to get my cash. never saw here again, BUT I did read about her in the papers when she got arrested for murder. yup, her and her BF went to a motel in Pico Riviera maybe. where she felt like some guy' dissed' her, so her BF went and killed the mother fucker with his gun!

for a few weeks I kept the 1911 cocked and locked. and I have a 170 lb personal bodyguard.

maybe if I worked at target and lived with my mom I would not need a gun... but since I deal with shifty people all the time and the media insisting on telling the perceived under pillaged that they are entitled to all my stuff. yours too probably if you have a job :2 cents:

I have a gun I do not like to touch or carry or shoot, but I will. if you'll stop organizing people in tribes competing for resources you'll find people are much more interesting that what you are perceiving. you are closing numerous good possibilities out of your life by insisting on artificial boundaries :thumbsup

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22212937)

Then you should know that those who ignore history are bound to repeat it, again and again and again.

The enemies of our rights depend on people like you who think the only rights that are important are the ones you agree with.

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22212719)

Do you not even know how stupid that sounds?

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22212917)

your points are fucking meaningless.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22212957)

I know what he fucking meant there fuckface.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22212913)

so in other words, you can't compare your country to ours, the state of California has 39 million for a population and the strictest gun regulations in the country. You can't even will some guns to your kids anymore.
There were 1,368 gun-related homicides in 2016 in California

This is just one state

And back to what I said, the person that said pry it from my dead cold hand was Charlton Heston, he marched with MLK jr and was a champion of several causes.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22212967)

People like you are the enemies of these victims and their families, because you disagree with their right to live and pursue happiness because your right to own a gun is more important.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22212955)

one,m they are reported higher here than your country, second, this thread is about guns and the number you speak of relate to all murders, not every murder is done with a gun. If was was going to kill someone, a punch to the throat is much more gratifying!

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22212971)

Resorting to insults is also pretty lame and just gives someone another reason not to read your posts. :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22212913)

And back to what I said, the person that said pry it from my dead cold hand was Charlton Heston, he marched with MLK jr and was a champion of several causes.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22212985)

Again, I ask you, what the fuck does marching with MLK have to do with the mass shootings that are going on in the country?

Again, I ask you, what the fuck does marching with MLK have to do with the mass shootings that are going on in the country?

Again, I ask you, what the fuck does marching with MLK have to do with the mass shootings that are going on in the country?

Again, I ask you, what the fuck does marching with MLK have to do with the mass shootings that are going on in the country?

Again, I ask you, what the fuck does marching with MLK have to do with the mass shootings that are going on in the country?

Again, I ask you, what the fuck does marching with MLK have to do with the mass shootings that are going on in the country?

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22213009)

Ignoring cold hard facts is actually the most childish and irresponsible thing you can do here.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22212999)

I understand that you are desperate to defend your country so you resort to desperate arguments...but the truth is our murder rate coincides with the murder rates of surrounding countries...it is not possible for murders to go unreported in any of those countries including mine...

serbia is much much safer than the USA...much...and we are a war torn 3rd world shit hole...

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22212991)

Nice spin but you are way off base. If you want to change the laws regarding guns then you need to amend the constitution.

I did not invent the system but I have sworn (several times) to protect it with my life.

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22213015)

Charlton Heston borrowed the phrase.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_my_cold,_dead_hands



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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22213015)

Charlton Heston borrowed the phrase.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_my_cold,_dead_hands
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22213029)

I feel perfectly safe here in the US and I'm not the one that calls the country in which a live a shit hole, you on the other hand do!

Sorry if the holes in your argument are inconvenient

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22213037)

You are confusing me with the uneducated you are aligning yourself with.

Talking to me, like you are some kind of professor. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. You want to teach someone something, try teaching your fellow gun-nutters the English language so you don't sound like complete fucking idiots.

By the way, idiot (and you are a fucking idiot on this issue), there is nothing in the constitution about you getting to own assault weapons or high capacity magazines.

You trying to give your interpretation of what those rights mean, is fucking ridiculous. If you were such the fucking scholar you are trying to pretend to be here, you should know that it is up to the courts to interpret the meanings of the constitution. Apparently they have drawn the line at bombs and wmd's, because I'm sure the constitution never said anything abut those either.

You guys (gun nuts) are a complete fucking joke, and anyone who can clearly think for themselves, rationally, would agree.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22213049)

there are no holes in my argument you just pretend that there are because you are trying to defend the indefensible...

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22213051)

Hey shit for brains, nothing in the constitution says we can't have those. The joke is in your hand

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22213053)

Have you not said repeatedly you live in a shit hole?

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22213053)

Have you not said repeatedly you live in a shit hole?

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22213067)

Saratah, or whatever her fucking name is, says you are being childish.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22213039)

I actually knew about that, I also know about the history of Charlton Heston. He was a pioneer for civil rights, during the 60's he insisted on multicultural casts in his films, something unheard of for the time. He did march with MLK and several other causes, but the dip shit that started this thread insists that the person that made the statement that is the cheering call of liberals to put down the NRA is a nut of some kind. I hate ignorance, I also can't stand morons attacking our constitution when they know jack shot about it from other countries thinking their country is somehow better than ours that has a overall population that is less than a quarter of the population of the state I live in. And he calls his country a shit hole! I love my country, I love my state, I don't put down places I have never even been to! Who the fuck would even want to visit the country of Serbia?

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22213079)

Once again you ignore facts.

1. Sarettah is a dude, a 6'4", 250lb ugly as all hell, dude.

2. I never said V was being childish, not sure where you get that from.

3. You are a fucking imbecile who is not worth replying to any more.

Have a nice day.

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22212971)

Resorting to insults is also pretty lame and just gives someone another reason not to read your posts. :thumbsup
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22213051)

Hey shit for brains, nothing in the constitution says we can't have those. The joke is in your hand

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22213051)

Hey shit for brains, nothing in the constitution says we can't have those. The joke is in your hand

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22212891)

I am from serbia...we have on average 100-150murders/year of those maybe half are by gun...our population is 7 million...we have the #2 gun per capita...

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22213469)

Well that's only because your country is packed full of "evil whiteys" lol

If USA had the same demographics we'd have similar crime rate as serbia. Who the fuck do you think is doing all the murders and shootings in the USA? The random school shooting gets a ton of publicity but the truth is evil whitey couldn't hold a candle against all the black and brown shooters in the USA.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22212967)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...trip=all&w=750

People like you are the enemies of these victims and their families, because you disagree with their right to live and pursue happiness because your right to own a gun is more important.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22213009)

Ignoring cold hard facts is actually the most childish and irresponsible thing you can do here.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22213037)

You are confusing me with the uneducated you are aligning yourself with.

Talking to me, like you are some kind of professor. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. You want to teach someone something, try teaching your fellow gun-nutters the English language so you don't sound like complete fucking idiots.

By the way, idiot (and you are a fucking idiot on this issue), there is nothing in the constitution about you getting to own assault weapons or high capacity magazines.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22213103)

The NRA is not my grandfathers, or my fathers NRA. The NRA has changed and is no longer a friend to the outdoorsman, or the responsible gun owner.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22213541)

again you are trying to cherry pick data...those blacks and browns live in the USA they are US citizens and they are a direct result of the US system...the white man made the rules, controlled all the money, called all the shots BUT its somehow not his fault :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dude I hate to break it to you but they are YOUR browns and blacks...you do not get to cherry pick data...also you do not get to point fingers at other countries that whiteys have been exploiting and de-stabilizing for centuries and say "look savages"...

the white man called all the shots...the white man now gets to reap what he sows...it is how life works :thumbsup


oh BTW 90% of all crime in the USA is directly or indirectly linked to your failed war on drugs and your for profit prison system and of course your fetish towards violence and guns...this is not according to me it is according to the DEA...the white man does not want to admit that he likes narcotics so he creates a lucrative underground business for the poor and this violence spills in to other countries like colombia and mexico...

your arguments are pfffft...typical white man hand wash...calls all the shots but is never ever responsible :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22212819)

wow you and the personal attacks, who pissed in your cheerios? are you like 14?


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jgLq2B1P0NU/maxresdefault.jpg

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22213103)

In "Bowling for Columbine" when Micheal Moore asked Heston for his thoughts on why gun-related homicide is so much higher in the United States than in other countries, Heston said it was because, "we have probably more mixed ethnicity"

Also, let me put this up in big letters, so your short bus brain can soak it in better.

Charleton Heston was not the President of the NRA at any time where assault weapons were legal.

Assault weapons ban...

September 13, 1994 - September 13, 2004

Heston as President...

1998 until he resigned in 2003


The NRA is not my grandfathers, or my fathers NRA. The NRA has changed and is no longer a friend to the outdoorsman, or the responsible gun owner.