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Paul Markham 02-18-2018 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22209525)
paul, why shall i sell recorded porn when i can make much more money by giving recorded porn for free and sell 100s of other things with it ?

what you want to explain me is that in a cowboy movie only horses should be promoted.

you are so far away from reality !!!

Yes I worked in the days before you traffic monkeys gave away free porn. You confimed my statement.



well that seems to work fine because as older it became as more successful

https://www.trafficfabrik.com/images/biz-perf-2017.png

btw: around 75% from my buyers arenīt german :-)



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sure all this advertisers pay millions and millions to the networks every year because they just have too much money.

do you ever think before you write?

regarding the producers:

a lot of my publishers and also my company are buying A LOT of content every year.
mostly we buy it from the guys who once tried to eliminate us.

they learned by simple maths that 500x5 is more then 10x100 and they are happy.

but all that happens after you was retired with all those millions you made and preferred to spend your last years on your castle.

i am sorry to say that paul, but with the name you had once you end up as a quite poor guy. what shows me that you did not understand the maths and the markets.

you did everything right and you are relative poor - i did everything wrong and i am in a very good and stable financial condition. so my answer is easy - i will continue to do the opposite of what is right for you. that makes you still useful for something.
Can you back that up with any sort of proof? Talk is for free.

https://www.similarweb.com/website/t...k.com#overview

https://www.semrush.com/info/https%3...fficfabrik.com

These sites say no. I haven't got the right tools but sure there are people with the right tools who can verify you.

20 million at $5 per 1,000. Isn't a great income. $20,000 before costs.

thommy 02-18-2018 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22209631)
Yes I worked in the days before you traffic monkeys gave away free porn. You confimed my statement.



well that seems to work fine because as older it became as more successful

https://www.trafficfabrik.com/images/biz-perf-2017.png

btw: around 75% from my buyers arenīt german :-)





Can you back that up with any sort of proof? Talk is for free.

you want to see a copy of my my bank account?

why should I prove anything to you ? if you do not even know who i am and what i do it makes no sense - you really seems to live in a lonesome world with no interaction or communication to anyone who is successful in this biz because if not you would not ask me for a prove you would already know who i am.

I think you missunderstand the situation: I GIVE YOU LESSONS FOR FREE - you can take them or not - it is up to you. i either need your opinion nor your approval for anything.

I only like to exchange experiences and let people see that success can be done in different ways. my experiences was leading me to a point where i can be proud and happy - your experiences made you to a half-impoverished angry old man trying to blame others for his own disabilities.

so WHO A FUCK YOU THINK YOU ARE ???
stick your private apocalypses in your ass and enjoy them there but as a cyclist you should not try to give people advice how they can drive a ferrari.
you WAS never a ferrari driver - you are not one and you will never be.
you was only able to survive and make some money in a time when others made millions
already and as the times got harder you was out of the game an unable to jump into a new situation.
and with THIS knowledge you want to give wise advice?

i am so glad that you write on gfy and not in a cardiac surgeon forum to tell them what they do wrong.

maxpower 02-18-2018 08:31 PM

Why does it seem so few sites have been effected? Many of the biggest sites seem to be operating normally, and most have never even been 'reviewed' I have 16 reports or small videos they spent like an hour looking at pages in my site not sure if these are independent reviewers but they are humans.

ether someone at google loves or hates me, but my site is really standard with standard banner placements and numbers as well as standard sponsors. Feel targeted....

WiredGuy 02-18-2018 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by xApster (Post 22209119)
Does anyone know what form of pops are allowed, if any?

I know a few ad agency's seem to think a pop-over when a user clicks on a link should not have any issues, any truth to this?

I'd love to know this as well, every ad agency seems to be rather calm about these changes. I'm betting a lot of popunder codes will need to be updated.
WG

WiredGuy 02-18-2018 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by maxpower (Post 22210507)
Why does it seem so few sites have been effected? Many of the biggest sites seem to be operating normally, and most have never even been 'reviewed' I have 16 reports or small videos they spent like an hour looking at pages in my site not sure if these are independent reviewers but they are humans.

ether someone at google loves or hates me, but my site is really standard with standard banner placements and numbers as well as standard sponsors. Feel targeted....

From my understanding there's supposed to be a 30 day grace period where webmasters are getting notified that their sites are abusive and they'll have until March 15th to become compliant. At least that's what I was led to believe from what I've read.
WG

anexsia 02-18-2018 09:19 PM

Every time I tried using popups from different ad networks I would always catch those freaking fake virus and malware popups coming up with the sirens and shit and I would immediately remove them from my sites. I saw no point in reporting them because more would just slip through the cracks and I didn't want a single visitor of mine to be subject to it.

I personally don't mind popups when I'm visiting a site though as long as they're not crazy or do any shady stuff.

maxpower 02-18-2018 09:22 PM

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Bladewire 02-18-2018 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by maxpower (Post 22210545)

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money biz 02-18-2018 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 22210539)
From my understanding there's supposed to be a 30 day grace period where webmasters are getting notified that their sites are abusive and they'll have until March 15th to become compliant. At least that's what I was led to believe from what I've read.
WG

No warnings your page just wont work. Even huge sites like openload are having problems.

https://i.imgur.com/mzzCMsg.png

Bladewire 02-18-2018 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by money biz (Post 22210573)
No warnings your page just wont work. Even huge sites like openload are having problems.

https://i.imgur.com/mzzCMsg.png

Big Brother thats so fucked up.

thommy 02-19-2018 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by maxpower (Post 22210507)
Why does it seem so few sites have been effected? Many of the biggest sites seem to be operating normally, and most have never even been 'reviewed' I have 16 reports or small videos they spent like an hour looking at pages in my site not sure if these are independent reviewers but they are humans.

ether someone at google loves or hates me, but my site is really standard with standard banner placements and numbers as well as standard sponsors. Feel targeted....

thatīs what i explained. these are human auditors and they are checking now only the top of the iceberg (sites with a high alexa in a NA or EU country)and they spend A LOT of time on each site.

if your site is compliant or failed the test you will see in webmaster tools. if the site failed you have 30 days to remove the problem and submit it for a new review. within this 30 days your ads will not be blocked.

there are already sites blocked but they got the warning already months ago.

thommy 02-19-2018 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by money biz (Post 22210573)
No warnings your page just wont work. Even huge sites like openload are having problems.

https://i.imgur.com/mzzCMsg.png

this site is not blocked for ads.
it is blocked because it uses an old and unsecure iframe or form or feed what is able to attack a computer via an xss attack.

this is not new - it is blocked since version 57.

Denny 02-19-2018 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by money biz (Post 22210573)
No warnings your page just wont work. Even huge sites like openload are having problems.

https://i.imgur.com/mzzCMsg.png

https://www.bmyers.com/public/Bypass...-in-Chrome.cfm

Denny 02-19-2018 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22210725)
this site is not blocked for ads.
it is blocked because it uses an old and unsecure iframe or form or feed what is able to attack a computer via an xss attack.

this is not new - it is blocked since version 57.

:2 cents::2 cents:

thommy 02-19-2018 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 22210541)
Every time I tried using popups from different ad networks I would always catch those freaking fake virus and malware popups coming up with the sirens and shit and I would immediately remove them from my sites. I saw no point in reporting them because more would just slip through the cracks and I didn't want a single visitor of mine to be subject to it.

I personally don't mind popups when I'm visiting a site though as long as they're not crazy or do any shady stuff.

the problem is called RTB !!!

go and count the traffic they tell you they have on all adult networks you can find.
count it together and make a simple maths.
if this number is correct it would need 10 times more people in the world as the world population is.

the answer is that most networks are selling the ads from each other and using the ad space from each other via RTB.
if a network does not have a buyer for a spot every other network in that RTB-ring can show an ad there. so you can not really know from wich ad-network and what advertiser an ad was shown when this happend.

Paul Markham 02-19-2018 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22209657)
you want to see a copy of my my bank account?

why should I prove anything to you ? if you do not even know who i am and what i do it makes no sense - you really seems to live in a lonesome world with no interaction or communication to anyone who is successful in this biz because if not you would not ask me for a prove you would already know who i am.

I think you missunderstand the situation: I GIVE YOU LESSONS FOR FREE - you can take them or not - it is up to you. i either need your opinion nor your approval for anything.

I only like to exchange experiences and let people see that success can be done in different ways. my experiences was leading me to a point where i can be proud and happy - your experiences made you to a half-impoverished angry old man trying to blame others for his own disabilities.

so WHO A FUCK YOU THINK YOU ARE ???
stick your private apocalypses in your ass and enjoy them there but as a cyclist you should not try to give people advice how they can drive a ferrari.
you WAS never a ferrari driver - you are not one and you will never be.
you was only able to survive and make some money in a time when others made millions
already and as the times got harder you was out of the game an unable to jump into a new situation.
and with THIS knowledge you want to give wise advice?

i am so glad that you write on gfy and not in a cardiac surgeon forum to tell them what they do wrong.

https://www.similarweb.com/website/t...k.com#overview

https://www.semrush.com/info/https%3...fficfabrik.com

These sites say no. I haven't got the right tools but sure there are people with the right tools who can verify you.

20 million at $5 per 1,000. Isn't a great income. $20,000 before costs.

Paul Markham 02-19-2018 03:44 AM

This is the start of a new trend. Google and other SE earn nothing from directing people to porn sites. So the porn sites that give content away for free are just not worth the work and not worth the problems.

So blocking the ads that fund these sites is a positive thing for SEs. Do that and the business of selling porn will come back to life and even at $400 a solo girl scene to $2,000 a boy-girl scene will be way too expensive for people to buy as free porn. People like Thommy can only afford to pick up bargain basement crap. For his imaginary porn sites.

Klen 02-19-2018 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22210791)
This is the start of a new trend. Google and other SE earn nothing from directing people to porn sites. So the porn sites that give content away for free are just not worth the work and not worth the problems.

So blocking the ads that fund these sites is a positive thing for SEs. Do that and the business of selling porn will come back to life and even at $400 a solo girl scene to $2,000 a boy-girl scene will be way too expensive for people to buy as free porn. People like Thommy can only afford to pick up bargain basement crap. For his imaginary porn sites.

LOL, yeah sure google does not have anything better to do then think how to block porn.

Klen 02-19-2018 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 22210533)
I'd love to know this as well, every ad agency seems to be rather calm about these changes. I'm betting a lot of popunder codes will need to be updated.
WG

I already mentioned that in this and other threads, so if you want to run a compliant pop it need to be following -

1. Must execute as new window, must be in same tab,not in new tab (desktop)
2. In mobile must not be executed at all

I base that on checking top 3 tube sites which executing now pop in that style plus some adnetworks claim same. Since their revenue from pops is in million dollars they surely know better then we small webmasters.

thommy 02-19-2018 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22210783)
https://www.similarweb.com/website/t...k.com#overview

https://www.semrush.com/info/https%3...fficfabrik.com

These sites say no. I haven't got the right tools but sure there are people with the right tools who can verify you.

20 million at $5 per 1,000. Isn't a great income. $20,000 before costs.

looooooooooooool - paul the internet genius !!!!

if i would be you i would pay them - maybe you can find better information than - who knows - hahahahahahahaaaaaaa

you donīt know nothing about the internet paul - and you will also not learn it anymore.
you are so funny!

thommy 02-19-2018 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22210791)
This is the start of a new trend. Google and other SE earn nothing from directing people to porn sites. So the porn sites that give content away for free are just not worth the work and not worth the problems.

So blocking the ads that fund these sites is a positive thing for SEs. Do that and the business of selling porn will come back to life and even at $400 a solo girl scene to $2,000 a boy-girl scene will be way too expensive for people to buy as free porn. People like Thommy can only afford to pick up bargain basement crap. For his imaginary porn sites.

the most porntubes do not need bargain basement crap because the content sites give them this content for free and they beg to give it for free.
and yes the rest is bulk. why not if it brings millions of users? what is wrong on that?

you are so far from reality - you did not hear the bang yet from the lightning happend 15 years ago.

that standard porn sites can not afford to buy quality traffic has also to do with the always yesterday people.
90% of all membership sites do not even know what a postback is or have the technical solutions for that.
they are the once who are crying same you do. the money is made by the ones who do not live in yesterday.

can you even ASSUME how many BILLIONS of revenue are only made with dating sites in this days? Dating what are sold on...? YES !! FREE PORN SITES !!!!

do you know how huge the market for enhancement and diet products is ?

do you know how many gaming and gambling sites are getting A LOT of revenue from free porn sites ?

did you know that even AMAZON products are sold on free porn sites ?

do you know HOW MUCH MONEY the livecam sites are investing in direct media buy ?
how much the amateur sites are investinng in direct buys?
how much even the amateurs investing in direct buys ?

how much do you think is the lifetime user value on a membership site ????
100 us ????

how much do you think is the lifetime value of someone who believe in a sugar-pill what suggest him to get a hard dick from? how many people you think you will find were the placebo effect MAKE HIS DICK HARD?
How much do you think is the lifetimevalue from such a user who buys pills for 200 dollar EVERY FUCKING MONTH !!!!!

for fucking WHAT do i need membership sites?

their products do not make enough profit to BUY The traffic for the price we want - I am sorry for them !!!!!

paul accept it - your time is past - you have been lucky enough to start your biz in a time when even illiterates have been able to make a lot of money.
this time will NEVER come back because there is too much money in that biz that the smart ones would leave it in the hands of illiterates.
what is so hard to understand on that ????

magneto664 02-19-2018 04:54 AM

I checked today the 5 most popular tube sites in chrome
They all have pops

thommy 02-19-2018 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by magneto664 (Post 22210853)
I checked today the 5 most popular tube sites in chrome
They all have pops

they have pop overs - and they are not executed in empty space.
how long this will work ? nobody knows ! but it is still an option.

3xmedia 02-19-2018 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by magneto664 (Post 22210853)
I checked today the 5 most popular tube sites in chrome
They all have pops

yep + lots of BIG sites still use that thing that when you click the link it opens up a new tab and the original/parent page redirects to an ad.

Klen 02-19-2018 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22210863)
they have pop overs - and they are not executed in empty space.
how long this will work ? nobody knows ! but it is still an option.

Everything can happen in future, they can even make banners non-compliant. Hell, they can even say how you can only use adsense and that would pass lol.
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Originally Posted by 3xmedia (Post 22210875)
yep + lots of BIG sites still use that thing that when you click the link it opens up a new tab and the original/parent page redirects to an ad.

When i was doing test on top 3 tube sites, that behaviour was only occurring when using other browsers, on chrome it's was always window popup.
For those who wants further testing, i suggest to download user agent switcher so you can see how it act on desktop/mobile/browsers.

3xmedia 02-19-2018 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22210893)
When i was doing test on top 3 tube sites, that behaviour was only occurring when using other browsers, on chrome it's was always window popup.
For those who wants further testing, i suggest to download user agent switcher so you can see how it act on desktop/mobile/browsers.

well, maybe not top 3 tubes, but Alexa under 100... still quite big.

Klen 02-19-2018 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xmedia (Post 22210919)
well, maybe not top 3 tubes, but Alexa under 100... still quite big.

Post some examples so i can test it with chrome beta.

3xmedia 02-19-2018 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22210955)
Post some examples so i can test it with chrome beta.

X*hamster?

3xmedia 02-19-2018 06:35 AM

actually, what's the best way to control the ads by particual browser? I'd need something like this:

<do it if Chrome is used>
some ad code
</do it if Chrome is used>

<do it in all browsers except Chrome>
some ad code
<do it in all browsers except Chrome>

magneto664 02-19-2018 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xmedia (Post 22210961)
actually, what's the best way to control the ads by particual browser? I'd need something like this:

Yes of course. you have hundreds of plugins to detect browsers.
wordpress plugins, jquery for a normal sites. etc.

Paul Markham 02-19-2018 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22210809)
LOL, yeah sure google does not have anything better to do then think how to block porn.

OK, I'm a dreamer. :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 02-19-2018 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22210829)
looooooooooooool - paul the internet genius !!!!

if i would be you i would pay them - maybe you can find better information than - who knows - hahahahahahahaaaaaaa

you donīt know nothing about the internet paul - and you will also not learn it anymore.
you are so funny!

I'm just showing what I found and it wasn't good. You have never provided proof of anything you boast.

Klen 02-19-2018 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xmedia (Post 22210959)
X*hamster?

That is actually one of 3 top tubes which i tested.

Paul Markham 02-19-2018 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22210839)
the most porntubes do not need bargain basement crap because the content sites give them this content for free and they beg to give it for free.
and yes the rest is bulk. why not if it brings millions of users? what is wrong on that?

you are so far from reality - you did not hear the bang yet from the lightning happend 15 years ago.

that standard porn sites can not afford to buy quality traffic has also to do with the always yesterday people.
90% of all membership sites do not even know what a postback is or have the technical solutions for that.
they are the once who are crying same you do. the money is made by the ones who do not live in yesterday.

can you even ASSUME how many BILLIONS of revenue are only made with dating sites in this days? Dating what are sold on...? YES !! FREE PORN SITES !!!!

do you know how huge the market for enhancement and diet products is ?

do you know how many gaming and gambling sites are getting A LOT of revenue from free porn sites ?

did you know that even AMAZON products are sold on free porn sites ?

do you know HOW MUCH MONEY the livecam sites are investing in direct media buy ?
how much the amateur sites are investinng in direct buys?
how much even the amateurs investing in direct buys ?

how much do you think is the lifetime user value on a membership site ????
100 us ????

how much do you think is the lifetime value of someone who believe in a sugar-pill what suggest him to get a hard dick from? how many people you think you will find were the placebo effect MAKE HIS DICK HARD?
How much do you think is the lifetimevalue from such a user who buys pills for 200 dollar EVERY FUCKING MONTH !!!!!

for fucking WHAT do i need membership sites?

their products do not make enough profit to BUY The traffic for the price we want - I am sorry for them !!!!!

paul accept it - your time is past - you have been lucky enough to start your biz in a time when even illiterates have been able to make a lot of money.
this time will NEVER come back because there is too much money in that biz that the smart ones would leave it in the hands of illiterates.
what is so hard to understand on that ????

Everything you say is right. But it would still be true if there was a flourishing porn industry. Ad sales via free porn haven't enhanced the porn business. If the products are good enough they can still be sold online.

The big dating sites wouldn't go near porn sites and advertise in the mainstream.

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Online dating is a big market. Here in the U.S., the industry generates approximately $2 billion in revenue each year and expanded at an annual rate of 5% between 2010 and 2015. This helps explain why IAC/ InterActiveCorp ( IACI ) decided to spin off its online dating assets last year with the Match Group ( MTCH ) IPO.
In fact very little from the mainstream is sold via porn tubes. You can show proof of that if you have it.

Do you know what porn made back in the day? Not the turnover of producers, the turn over of retail.

As for pills that get your dick hard, again the mainstream is providing the real thing. https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&e....yC94P2 dBRQY Once again you have proven you talk bullshit.

By giving away free porn you taken away and added nothing.

I understand I made my money before illiterates gave away free porn to scrape a few dollars per 1,000 click on an ad. There's not enough money to be made in porn today, to tempt me.

3xmedia 02-19-2018 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22211033)
That is actually one of 3 top tubes which i tested.

in Chrome 64?

thommy 02-19-2018 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22211045)
Everything you say is right. But it would still be true if there was a flourishing porn industry. Ad sales via free porn haven't enhanced the porn business. If the products are good enough they can still be sold online.

WHO you think IS the porn industry ?

there are still thousands of porn products existing but nobody wants them (except a few new products in VR or porn games).

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The big dating sites wouldn't go near porn sites and advertise in the mainstream.
again a prove that you do not know the market.
i personally have a few mediabuying companies as advertisers ONLY for dating and they spend MILLIONS every month in every fucking available network - and they would even buy MUCH MORE if there would be more traffic.

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In fact very little from the mainstream is sold via porn tubes. You can show proof of that if you have it.
paul if you do not believe me, than talk with the other guys who are in that.
your problem is that all your contacts you had before are already retired or banktupt.
you do not know the guys anymore who make the money.

show me a few porn sites (even from your time of noahīs arch) what have been sold for 100 million or more. even THAN it was AFF and stuff like that what got this values.
and today you will find the real high selling prices on porn tubes. why a fuck you think it is like that?

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Do you know what porn made back in the day? Not the turnover of producers, the turn over of retail.
paul i am at least the same time in this biz as you are - but in opposite to you i am STILL here and make money. so donīt tell me about porn sites in the good old days. i started 1997 and had my fist paysite in 1999. so better tell your BS to the greenhorns but not to someone with 21 years of CONTINUING experience in porn.

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As for pills that get your dick hard, again the mainstream is providing the real thing. https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&e....yC94P2 dBRQY Once again you have proven you talk bullshit.
and what?
have you ever had a look on the pornsites what is promoted there ?????

btw. one of the BIGGEST mediabuying companies in that sits in CZ. they are buying for aproximately 5 million traffic per month.
a few even bigger are in russia, india and the netherlands.
alone this periphery market is MUCH bigger as all paysites together.

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By giving away free porn you taken away and added nothing.
tell it the TV stations - tell them to stop it and wait how many people will buy the DVDs.
you are such a dreamer

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I understand I made my money before illiterates gave away free porn to scrape a few dollars per 1,000 click on an ad. There's not enough money to be made in porn today, to tempt me.
you NEVER made money paul !!!!
you THINK that you made money because you made more in relation as you did before.

in 2000 i made a PROFIT (NOT REVENUE) of 15-20 k PER DAY !!!!! you honk - and i was one of the smaller earners.
but we have not been that many competitors than and the traffic was from rich people who could afford internet.

but why do i tell you that?
it will not help you to turn time back and it will not even make you wiser.
you might be gulliver in midgetland but in the land of giants you are an ant.

MadeleneRay 02-19-2018 09:42 AM

Meh, we have been warned looong time ago and the truth is that nobody wants to see abusive content...whatsoever. My 2 cents.

Klen 02-19-2018 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xmedia (Post 22211073)
in Chrome 64?

Yes, chrome64. I will also post code which will allow you to execute code based on browser type, and also how to send traffic as skim instead popup which is one of solutions as well.

3xmedia 02-19-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22211361)
Yes, chrome64. I will also post code which will allow you to execute code based on browser type, and also how to send traffic as skim instead popup which is one of solutions as well.

ok, great... BTW, I use Chrome 64 too and for me Xhamster and many other sites still open the clicked link in a new tab and redirect the parent page to an ad. you must delete cookies to test that.

The Porn Nerd 02-19-2018 12:29 PM

Thommy, I know you poo-poo membership sites but where do you think the CONTENT comes from? Recorded live cams shows? OK fine. But you do realize that people want to see PORN, right? As in a PORN SCENE. Fully filmed, imagined, thought out, well produced with PORN STARS. Sure, amateurs are big too but they are essentially cam girls doing their own shit at home.

I am talking about PRODUCTION. And while you CAN go to a tube and see tons of free porn scenes those interested in higher quality or a niche still flock to paysites.

I always ask this: WHY do companies keep creating and releasing new paysites if the Adult Industry is, as you say, nothing more than dating, cams and dick pills? Why even bother then?

Oh right - because Membership sites are the ONLY place where new content is being filmed. Period. Oh yes, DVDs too but that market has shrunk to almost nothing.

I don't mind ad networks making millions selling cam pops but do not think for an instant that this constitutes the entire Adult Industry OR the desires of the consumer.

maxpower 02-19-2018 04:16 PM

@thommy I really need your help, my ads company says I am the ONLY one effected they say the reason for this is because of the POP-UP alone not their Flash Ads.

They seem to think if I remove the pop-up and send the site in for review it will be fine. This is not correct I know but they have no knowledge of these issues and never even seem to know this could happen. They are a very big and well know company BTW.

I will pay you for your help I am in deep trouble and my ads company is lost and blame ME for this.

maxpower 02-19-2018 04:37 PM

@thommy you have a Skype so we can talk I will pay you for your time thank you. I will be back with-in an hour thx

blackmonsters 02-19-2018 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22210725)
this site is not blocked for ads.
it is blocked because it uses an old and unsecure iframe or form or feed what is able to attack a computer via an xss attack.

this is not new - it is blocked since version 57.

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adultwebmestar 02-19-2018 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22210839)
the most porntubes do not need bargain basement crap because the content sites give them this content for free and they beg to give it for free.
and yes the rest is bulk. why not if it brings millions of users? what is wrong on that?

you are so far from reality - you did not hear the bang yet from the lightning happend 15 years ago.

that standard porn sites can not afford to buy quality traffic has also to do with the always yesterday people.
90% of all membership sites do not even know what a postback is or have the technical solutions for that.
they are the once who are crying same you do. the money is made by the ones who do not live in yesterday.

can you even ASSUME how many BILLIONS of revenue are only made with dating sites in this days? Dating what are sold on...? YES !! FREE PORN SITES !!!!

do you know how huge the market for enhancement and diet products is ?

do you know how many gaming and gambling sites are getting A LOT of revenue from free porn sites ?

did you know that even AMAZON products are sold on free porn sites ?

do you know HOW MUCH MONEY the livecam sites are investing in direct media buy ?
how much the amateur sites are investinng in direct buys?
how much even the amateurs investing in direct buys ?

how much do you think is the lifetime user value on a membership site ????
100 us ????

how much do you think is the lifetime value of someone who believe in a sugar-pill what suggest him to get a hard dick from? how many people you think you will find were the placebo effect MAKE HIS DICK HARD?
How much do you think is the lifetimevalue from such a user who buys pills for 200 dollar EVERY FUCKING MONTH !!!!!

for fucking WHAT do i need membership sites?

their products do not make enough profit to BUY The traffic for the price we want - I am sorry for them !!!!!

paul accept it - your time is past - you have been lucky enough to start your biz in a time when even illiterates have been able to make a lot of money.
this time will NEVER come back because there is too much money in that biz that the smart ones would leave it in the hands of illiterates.
what is so hard to understand on that ????

so you are selling fraud things (diet, dating etc.) and you are proud. porn is dead if you are a fair individual webmaster, producer etc. but yeah brokers, thieves are happy yet. but check pls mobidea, bitterstrawberry, traffic company rpm rates for example. it was 10x 5 years ago. if you can't send millions of traffic you earn pennies

blackmonsters 02-19-2018 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22210791)
This is the start of a new trend. Google and other SE earn nothing from directing people to porn sites. So the porn sites that give content away for free are just not worth the work and not worth the problems.


Google does earn something from directing people to porn sites;
they earn traffic.

If surfers who are looking for porn can't find it through google then they will use a different
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maxpower 02-19-2018 07:21 PM

@thommy when you are around please let me know desperately need some help

Konda 02-19-2018 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by maxpower (Post 22211693)
@thommy I really need your help, my ads company says I am the ONLY one effected they say the reason for this is because of the POP-UP alone not their Flash Ads.

They seem to think if I remove the pop-up and send the site in for review it will be fine. This is not correct I know but they have no knowledge of these issues and never even seem to know this could happen. They are a very big and well know company BTW.

I will pay you for your help I am in deep trouble and my ads company is lost and blame ME for this.

Why would you need help from him. Just log in to the webmaster console, watch the screen recording the reviewer made and remove/replace the ads they pointed out to be abusive and then submit it for review. Many times they come back with more issues and you fix those too and eventually everything is clean and they will approve the site. I went through this process for quite some sites and it's really not hard.

Konda 02-19-2018 07:52 PM

I checked your site and you should remove whatever pop code you are currently using.
Your site triggers pops multiple times, not just on first click, but also if you go the video page and click something there it triggers pops again.

Alos on mobile it tries to trigger multiple pops on pressing the play button. You should definitely not trigger pops on pressing play button.
https://i.imgur.com/bCb1rj5.png

I'm sure that if you remove your pop code or put a proper one your site will pass the review.

maxpower 02-19-2018 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Konda (Post 22211939)
Why would you need help from him. Just log in to the webmaster console, watch the screen recording the reviewer made and remove/replace the ads they pointed out to be abusive and then submit it for review. Many times they come back with more issues and you fix those too and eventually everything is clean and they will approve the site. I went through this process for quite some sites and it's really not hard.

Man this is a HUGE mess I am not sure what banners they flag, we have 16 little videos no text or clear flags or anything. I am not sure how to set-up out pop-up or under that will comply and I need a professional report to give too our ads companies as it seems I am one of the first too ever be effected they know about.

He seems the best informed person so I believe he would be best to help me and too create professional reports help our ads companies better underrated the rules when this comes up on other sites.

This is very important not something I can screw up I need to know for sure I pull down the righ ads and set-up the pop-up/up-under in the right way so the site will pass review

maxpower 02-19-2018 08:08 PM

@Konda you don't understand man, this is just the replacement code I was given this is the same pop-up script this Huge company gives to everyone. It only opens on the first click on the page has nothing to do with the videos.


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