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02-16-2018, 02:11 PM | #52 | |
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Ever go to a news site? It takes FOREVER to load. Mainstream is 10s more annoying than porn.
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Blocking ads would be a boost for the porn industry. If you can't workout why think harder.
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Ok. where is a point. today is a 16th feb.
all my popups working, tested few times, I clear cache, remove cdn cache, push down allI don't gett any errors from chrome looks ok
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if they are still working as a popunder (blank site) it might be just because your was not reviewed yet. google started it with the big sites first. if you are able to get a real popunder on chrome 64 and not a tab they call that "abusive". if you see it as tab it is called "disturbing" i think it will take a while til all sites are really effected and i am pretty sure that they will give the users in one of their coming updates the possibility to report such sites, because it is impossible for them to check the whole web manually. as dar as i can see it from the sites they have checked form our network - all of them had a global alexa < 50.000 and a country rank <5000 |
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Get a dev version ( Version 65.0.3325.35 (Official build) dev (64-bits) ) or switch a Chromebook to developer channel, see if it still works for you.
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I meant to say blocking. Do think about it.
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Before ads ruled the porn industry and brought the price of traffic down to shit. A lot more were able to make money. There has been a slow destruction of the porn industry by ad-funded sites who now use free porn to attract surfers, with the sole purpose of getting them to click on ads.
Imagine a world where that couldn't happen and people were left with nothing but type in traffic. Because type in from a watermark was the only way surfers could buy porn. Today people don't need anything but Pornhub or some other tube to supply their daily porn. And it's in the bookmarks. The difference between the first way of promoting, Newsgroups, and now is only the numbers online. Imagine billions having to buy porn for $1 a day. I said think about it. It's a dream, but any slowing down of the ads based free porn business is a benefit to us all. But a few leeches. |
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The pirate sites are fucked. All the $$ comes from those fake browser install offers. I dont see how sites like openload will be able to survive.
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you know the internet from a time when only really rich people could afford it and when everybody was believing everything. this was the time when everyone could make money and as we have been much less people this "big" money from few people where shared under few. when internet became cheaper it also bright another quality of users with less money and in the same time the number of competitors grow (because they heard about easy money). so that was the goldrush effect and nothing else. the money what is made WITH porn today is MUCH MUCH MORE as it was in the best times (when we made the money with selling porn). alone in my network are a few big mediabuying companies what are spending MILLIONS every month for buying traffic on porn sites and sell this users very other products than porn. the real value of a user are not the 0,28% of his budget what he spends for porn (and that was in 1997 the same as it is now) it is his budget as a consumer what is buying all and everything. you are crying because in the past 50 years around 80% of the cinemas did close - YES - but the money what is made with free TV is 1000 times more as ist was in the time of cinemas. so start to understand that times have changed. your ideas do not work anymore and there are TONNS of new people in the biz what bring fresh money. if you talk with the ones who still live in the past you might hear from them that what you think. but if you still would be in the everyday biz and have to do with the new and fresh people you would be astonished about the numbers what are to realize with porn. i can not say exactly how much more money is in that biz compared to let´s say 2000 but i am pretty shure it is 10-20 times more now. so your concept would be to change a running and working system to an old and rotten one what will NEVER work again. |
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i was starting with selling traffic first time in 1997 and in this time nobody even knew about CPM. we all got paid by click because it is the big advantage internet have to SEE users reaction. CPM was born after the good times when in europe dialers died and when the price for having internet dropped so much that the "poors" can come also. a single click in 1997 was around 0,40 - 0,50 DM (in that time around 0,25 U$) but with more experiences and poorer users this price was not to hold anymore. so CPCs dropped and that was the time when they started to introduce CPM in adult. whenever the price dropped publishers increased the number of ads in a site. that provoked that the number of clicks on each where decreasing and it was nessecary for an advertiser to put more attention on the banner by starting with blinks and fake informations. if the competitor did not want to lose clicks he had to do the same and this endet in so called "performance marketing" what is nothing else than trying to filter from a very high number of traffic the most relevant out and send them somewhere where the same "statistical group" bought most. this have NOTHING to do with advertisement and brought even unprofessional ad creators in the game - people who might be able to make a banner with blinki blinki for 3 dollar and producing 1000 of them every month. when i started trafficfabrik i was aware all this issues and i started against all odds a CPC network like in 1997. my goal was to find those advertisers what are WILLING to learn the rules of advertising and compete with products and instead of finding just traffic find the RIGHT traffic for their products. I do not even need a source filter for that because i say that the banner already IS a filter. and if you do not write "FREE" on it you might get less clicks but those what have a high quality. when i started that everyone was laughing about me and told me that this is not a product what is "in the time". in the past 5 years we have been growing EVERY year more than 100% from one year to the next and in 2017 we still made a grow of 168% in compare to 2016. the CPCs in that time increased also 150% while the prices in CPM dropped more than the half. the daily budgets in our network are around 10-15 times higher as the traffic we can deliver - but I am still aware to take people on publishers or advertisers site who do not understand my philosophy. i want to make the LONGTERM money and i give a fuck on the short term. this is how i survived 21 years in this biz and was ALWAYS on the sunny side. so you see IT IS POSSIBLE with pure logic ! |
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i am not interested in this market yet and as long there is still growth capacity in the markets what i know best I do not see any need for that. when a hairdresser have nice hair does not mean that he is a good one because usually someone else cuts his hair. i do not sell layouts and designs and i will always take care the IMPORTANT THINGS first before i take care the not important. i.e. if i would spend the last few month in design and not in making sure that we are fine with the new rules - i don´t know if i could say today that not ONE of the over 4000 domains in our network is blocked by chrome. and THIS is more important for me, for my publishers, and for my advertisers. just that simple. |
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I am truly impressed with this tread and the quality information provided. thommy especially stands out here.
I am considering another option just preventing chrome viewers from using the site with a Warring page and easy use icons to open the website in another browser. Banned by Google might be marketable for us, besides we are a grassroots site over 90% of Google traffic comes from our own domain name and we don't buy traffic collected from google or not. This will never end they will just come up with new rules and strengthen the ones they have. It's up the the larger programs and leaders of this industry to show the way but I will follow. We also have a Chrome Issue with their translator feature slowing down our page load times, causing user disruption in some GEO's |
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Wait a minute, it was not supposed to be natively turned on? And block automatically when entering the site in the background?
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not you, not me and not the whole porn industry together will stop google doing that - especially because they don´t make money with us. the majority of the chrome users will also see that as a feature FOR THEM and an additional security. especially smartphone users will have a HUGE decrease in bandwidth usage and that means they will not go to low speed at the 5th day of the month. on the other hand i can tell you now after this few days already, that this rules are not bad at all. the results i can see and what i hear from my customers are A LOT better as before and that means that the few less clicks (it is really not that much) will be balanced with a higher price. pops are still doing ok with the rules we made them now and I have already many new ideas to replace an eventual lost with other nice ideas what will be 100% compliant. I was really expecting a much harder punch. but bow after the first few days i see the curve already going up and i think in less than 2 weeks all we be fine. there are now tons of new challenges and chances - open your eyes and you will find them. but don´t try to swim against such a powerful river. it is waste of time. i wish you good luck and positive thoughts - they will help you to go along with this issue. |
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your domain have to fail the google control first. than you get a message from them and you have 30 days to resolve the problem and ask for another review. what chrome blocks by standard are the popunders what thy to go behind the window by using an adobe reader bug. this kind of popping sites will still open but stay blank. pops in tabs are still working (in mobile it was always only working with tabs) but the execution of the pop-tab is the problem not the tab itself. |
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So now they (google/chrom) have control over every ad no matter of which (if any) ad company is serving it?
Do they have control of over 50% of all Internet ads revenue? And with one mouse click they can kill 50% of profit to every agency? To every website that live from ads? And they will never use it against political opponents, right? |
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Oh, that would explain why I see Google robot in the statistics that simulates a real user. on some pages even 5-6 times a day.
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to make it clear:
chrome64 and higher is NOT an adblocker !!!! it just blocks domains what failed at the manually check. a user even see there a message "Ad is blocked - klick here if you want to see all ads on the side" as far as i understood the site will be unblocked FOR THE USER WHO DOES THAT as long as he does not witch back to block. a user also can NOT block sites or ads because he don´t like it. google decides what they think it needs to be blocked and the user can always stop this block for a domain. |
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they come as real users (because they are real) and are not to identify. |
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this is the google bot - have nothing to do with the editors.
these guys are doing this job from their home and most of them are in canada. |
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recognized by RIPE IP database. and most of google editors was from india few years ago.
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Does anyone know what form of pops are allowed, if any?
I know a few ad agency's seem to think a pop-over when a user clicks on a link should not have any issues, any truth to this? |
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then you will see many of them :-) this is google edge network peering - many real users come over that https://peering.google.com |
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is started just before 15th. bot simulate real user with browser, system and resolution, check for popups? 2 action explainme he try to click or website to simulate popunder. tnx
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So far, nothing on my sites, one popunder and custom ads seem to be okay. I'm also "not reviewed" yet.
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or send him to me because under the 10.000 time per day he comes to me (and that since a year or more) he buys a few time :-) good bot ! |
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Let me be clear for the denser of you. The porn industry are the people with cameras. Those shooting models either live cams or the recorded porn industry. That was all I referred to when I stated it has been decimated by free porn.
https://www.trafficfabrik.com/ sell mostly to German-speaking companies or the proprietor can't afford to update it to 2018 standards. Any European site that doesn't display in the language the user comes from is outdated. No doubt advertising companies have made a lot of money by giving away the mainstay of the porn industry, recorded porn. But that still leaves the facts that recorded porn is a fraction of what it used to be. |
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do you ever think before you write? regarding the producers: a lot of my publishers and also my company are buying A LOT of content every year. mostly we buy it from the guys who once tried to eliminate us. they learned by simple maths that 500x5 is more then 10x100 and they are happy. but all that happens after you was retired with all those millions you made and preferred to spend your last years on your castle. i am sorry to say that paul, but with the name you had once you end up as a quite poor guy. what shows me that you did not understand the maths and the markets. you did everything right and you are relative poor - i did everything wrong and i am in a very good and stable financial condition. so my answer is easy - i will continue to do the opposite of what is right for you. that makes you still useful for something. |
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EDIT: Well, i just tested Plugrush pop which i have on my sites with google chrome 65 beta and it's working, so it seems you are indeed right. So,i'l assume having a special anti-adblock code it is required only if you end up manualy blocked. Tho, i would need to do test with other ad network pops as well. |
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if they blocking you AFTER a manually test and you work around it with technical solutions (what indeed are existing but with a HEAVY intrusion in the users browser) they will mark your side as malware (what it is indeed than) because only the USER can decide for this unblock and if a software does that instead the user it is 1000% malware. if the google traffic is important for you i would not play such games. |
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this is why popunders actually do not work on chrome as pop under anymore because that was also using a malware technique by telling the browser that he have to open a new browser for an adobe pdf and fill it then instead the pdf with something else. actually i can not see any issue with google traffic - since the change we make even more with it and we are compliant with their rules. why should someone take a risk to make zero by frauding the rules when he can make more with NOT frauding the rules. but that´s finally everybody´s own decision. me and my publishers will be happy to fill up every empty google position :-) |
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