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Old 04-29-2003, 09:31 AM   #1
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What to do ?

Some model that I shot almost 2 years ago is now trying to become some big famous singer and wants me to take her picture down.

Here is her e-mail :


Hey Dugmor !
I hope you are doing fine...
I just come back from a trip to Las Vegas and I received many messages...
and I was discourage when I got a message from somebody who told me he saw
my picture on a porno site :



Please Dugmor, take this out of there... You didn't tell me you would use my
pictures for those kind of things. I'm getting known more and more and if
people find this out, that won't be very good for my image. Now I sing, I
do stuff on TV and all..... I'm really working hard to get to my goals and
you perfectly know that it's not good for me.

Please
take those pictures off this site. If you want, we could do an other
photoshoot together to compensate. Bikinis and stuff like that. Sexy stuff
but no nude of course.

Thanks and write back soon !

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I don't know. But I'd do her.
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Old 04-29-2003, 09:37 AM   #3
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Let here pay for the pictures, and then take them down

"You didn't tell me you would use my
pictures for those kind of things
" what did she expect? a stockquote site? whore !!
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I'm sure most of the cats here will disagree, but I say just take it down. You don't seem to be hard up for content. (It's a pun, get it?)
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Some model that I shot almost 2 years ago is now trying to become some big famous singer and wants me to take her picture down.

I'd tell her it's too late and if someone has allready seen you doing porn there is a good chance they have a saved copy of the picture and will distribute it.
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tell her you want the $ back and you will take them down. what do you get out of it? you got to run a train on some girl AND use her content for 2 years, all for free.
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Old 04-29-2003, 09:43 AM   #7
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be a nice guy, as pine says it's not like you guys have trouble with content, sounds like she didn't even know you had a website.
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if she ain't doing porn inside the site I'd take it down just to be a nice guy.
Just make sure she knows what trouble you had to go to to remove it and such and she owes you a big one.
Big one meaning blowjob.
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Old 04-29-2003, 09:47 AM   #9
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Cut her some slack - take it down and forget about it. You're doing great so why fuck with karma?
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ok, i've had a moment to re-think this.

yes, take her up on her offer to do a non-nude photoshoot. when she gets there chop her head off and throw her body in the river.

sometimes the best solutions to a problem are the simplest.
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Please Dugmor, take this out of there... You didn't tell me you would use my
pictures for those kind of things......

Bad sign
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I have these girls sign a 4 page model release that was written and prepared by a very expensive lawyer. It is witnessed by other people.

Do I really have to tell every girl where there pics are going to be seen ?

Maybe she will become more famous so I can sell the pics to a tabloid !
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i laugh at these whores who try and go on to do something.
here in california there are so many broken hearts every day due to this its funny. between acting and stripping they want to become singers and mainstream actresses, sorry honey, it dont work that way. youre a pornstar now.

these girls get desperate and do some porn, since most of the strippers and porn stars here are FAILED ACTRESSES< they soon realize they will never get a PART ON A MOVIE because they are known as whores in the porn industry.

like the girls who think they can do porn movies then go on to pose for PLayboy, yeah right, Hugh doesnt shoot pornstars.

its a curse they carry because of their OWN CHOICES.

fuck em.
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Old 04-29-2003, 09:55 AM   #14
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please...dont take that shit down. her first gang bang.com? you've got to be kidding? she didnt know? she didnt get fucked silly and paid for the content?
and now she wants to be famous.
tell her she already is famous and you want her to come back for another shoot.
otherwise cry me a river.
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ok, i've had a moment to re-think this.

yes, take her up on her offer to do a non-nude photoshoot. when she gets there chop her head off and throw her body in the river.

sometimes the best solutions to a problem are the simplest.
I really shouldn't have laughed at this.
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Old 04-29-2003, 09:59 AM   #16
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I have these girls sign a 4 page model release that was written and prepared by a very expensive lawyer. It is witnessed by other people.

Do I really have to tell every girl where there pics are going to be seen ?

Maybe she will become more famous so I can sell the pics to a tabloid !
In that case ohh well,
We had a girl who lives in a small town. Someone saw something and ..whoops.. Now she is an outcast.... We took her off our front page but her content was selling too well for us to remove her completely.
After they sign the contract................
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this is a situation where a lot of girls need to wakeup and think hard before doing porn. The second a girl does hardcore, they are now a low class whore. That may sound harsh, but no girl with any class would do it. Selling ones dignity for a couple hundred quick bucks is not worth it.
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ok, i've had a moment to re-think this.

yes, take her up on her offer to do a non-nude photoshoot. when she gets there chop her head off and throw her body in the river.

sometimes the best solutions to a problem are the simplest.
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hmm, to be truely legit, tell her that u would sell her back her content that she did.. including missing expenses and loss of income as a result of the selling of this content.

She should have known what she was doing b4 she signed anything. A contract is an agreement with two or more parties over the terms that were specified and outlined. She signed it knowingly that it will be distributed. To be a prick, go legal, coz u know u have the RIGHT to publish her stuff.

Or u can take it down, see how well she does on tv or whatever, and sell it to tabloid for big bucks. if she can make it that is.

The good the bad and the ugly.
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Ockham?s Razor.
offtopic.

[Labret] - since youre posting here. Whats the scoop on 'Disembodied' man? Those kids got my attention.

i cant stop playing both their albums.

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1 - Take down the pic

2- DONT LOOSE IT!

3- Wait a couple of years for her to get famous

4- Give her a call when she;s got a couple of mills to spend!!!
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offtopic.

[Labret] - since youre posting here. Whats the scoop on 'Disembodied' man? Those kids got my attention.

i cant stop playing both their albums.

Not too familiar with them at all. Its one of those ones where I wake up and its on the site. Never heard of them previous to it being uploaded. Good stuff though.
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The funny part is that I post it on GFY for even more people to see !
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Not too familiar with them at all. Its one of those ones where I wake up and its on the site. Never heard of them previous to it being uploaded. Good stuff though.
There's a few tracks on 'Diablerie' that are really good, 'Devil's Grin' being one of them. Yeah good stuff. I ran across that and a few others last night.

Lamb Of God is adorable.

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Are there more pics of her? Please post more hardcore pics
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Spotter has a good idea,
BTW Dugmor, Did you do her?
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There's a few tracks on 'Diablerie' that are really good, 'Devil's Grin' being one of them. Yeah good stuff. I ran across that and a few others last night.

Lamb Of God is adorable.

I noticed you downloaded Bleeding Through. You like it? I play the fuck outta that. That and It Dies Today, End This Day, and Dark Day Dawning. So much stuff coming in by the day I am having a hard time keeping up.
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Take the pics down but have her meet you half way.....she has to, what she didn't know that her porn pics wouldn't be on a porn site??? LOL Have her pay you compensation for money lost by removing the pics. If it's important to her she'll pay.
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I noticed you downloaded Bleeding Through. You like it?
Lord yes. Another good find last night. If i DL the whole disc, yeah i like it. Grabbing that first track 'RISE" how could I not just grab em all? hahah

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I'll be on the look out for those. Haven't heard them, similar?

I noticed you had been moving some folders, and I can only imagine it takes some time to go through things etc.

now playing 'Savior, Saint, and Salvation.'

awesome find.
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Let here pay for the pictures, and then take them down

"You didn't tell me you would use my
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" what did she expect? a stockquote site? whore !!

I agree - it's simple economics. Dugmor bought the rights to the pics from her and should be able to use them as I'm sure she signed a contract with you- but don't be an ass about it. Figgure out what the pics are worth to you now - esp since you probally already got most of your money out of them since you took the pics 2 years ago - and tell her to pay that and you take them down. I would guess it would only be a couple of thousand bucks at this point.

Don't over charge for them - just charge what you would actually loose by taking them down.

That's a MORE than FAIR offer. Everything we do in this world comes back to us - good and bad. You were good enough to pay her for the shoot, go the extra mile and let her pay you to take them down.

Personally though I'm not a big enough person to just take the pics down for no financial compensation.
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I agree first if she has been on your site for two years she can be everywhere on the net. You have no control over that. Secondly I would take them down but she is would have to give me the money back I paid her. I wouldnt take down without the money, thats only fair you are not running a charity.
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I'll be on the look out for those. Haven't heard them, similar?
Yeah, its all of the same school. Its quickly becoming my favorite musical hybrid. Somewhere around 3 years ago, emo kids got the bright idea to mix more scandinavian style metal in their core. I didnt like it at first, but a couple years later, these crybaby little bastards have it down. Still singing about getting their hearts broken, but who cares, not like I know what their saying half the time without a lyrics sheet.


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Yeah, its all of the same school. Its quickly becoming my favorite musical hybrid. Somewhere around 3 years ago, emo kids got the bright idea to mix more scandinavian style metal in their core. I didnt like it at first, but a couple years later, these crybaby little bastards have it down.
It does seem to grow on you. How can it not? The ONLY bad parts are when it gets too emo, but some of these you posted below have less 'don't leave me' parts, the crunch and the gallops can always grab a metal devotee.

It Dies Today - Sentiments Of You

Oh my, THIS is good. The spoken word stuff will always bring the tune down slightly, but as long as its not some 2 minute 'don'tr you leave me' break, i can handle a little spoken word. But I dig this track for sure. Especially the last minutes. During some of the riffs man, Amon Amarth is present. Love the metal influences man.

End This Day - Cursed By The Blessed.

One thing I do like is dry vocals, I love distortion and crunch and at some parts, or maybe even buried in the mix a little scratch on the voice is okay, but this shit sounds cleaner vocally, guitar is good too. Drummer never stumbles. This is good.

Dark Day Dawning - The Grimmest Of Fairy Tales

Now this one sounds more core than metal, but thats fine. I dig it. Sounds more chaotic, then the break. Love the vocals on this one too, I'm a sucker for that completely irrational, cracking voice. But I CAN do without the emo part in this one, but it quickly gets back on track. I like the cheaper production sound on this one too, the others are much more crunchy and thick, this one sounds thinner. More core than metal, but good.

Bury Your Dead - Tuesday Night Fever.

Oooh, this one sounds good from the start.Maniacal, and heavy from the jump. Awesome. If youre pounding double bass before the first 30 seconds is up, you got my attention. Love the fragile elements of the first minute of this. At exactly 1.00 it thrusts forward. Killer track. I like em short and sweet like this. No emo shit in this one ;) I really like this, like a metally Poison Idea. Then the core comes out thick in the end. Tough. I dig this.

xUntil The Endx

Heavy. Fairly standard delivery. But executed well, production is good, i like the mix on this one. The voice compliments the guitar instead of slicing through it, I like. And as usual, the last minutes are tough and crunch, nothing wrong with this tune either. Except the 'x.' ;)

Hymn From Above - Hang With Smile

This is an awkward little tune, the clean tube guitar with the crunchy rhythm and killer core voice make it sway and stumble almost between emotions, awesome. Dark, and lonely. Again, short and sweet, I'm a sucker for a good 2 minute track that just lays it down, no 'chorus - verse chorus verse' shit, just lay it down. Nice tunes man, thanks.

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Still singing about getting their hearts broken, but who cares, not like I know what their saying half the time without a lyrics sheet.
No shit, I was tricked by Point Of Recognition recently, was grooving then realized he was screaming 'God you are my strength, Jesus you are my strength.' Damn straight edge bands are always tricking me too. ;)

Sorry about the novel, figured as I listen Id smoke a bowl and drop some thoughts. If theres anything I ever want to talk about its music or the creation of it.
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Help the girl live her dreams.. and save the pictures somewhere for bribe material after she turns into the next Alanis Morisette! No, really. I would do it. I know what it's like to have someone else holding the barrier to your dreams It's the nice thing to do.
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