Letter from my ISP - no file sharing! - GoFuckYourself.com

Kat - Fast · 04-30-2003, 04:08 AM

Ya - my ISP (ntl) have just sent me a letter stating that copyrighted titles were available on my pc with a 'peer-to-peer' service and that I stop or lose my access. Bugger.

They included a letter from the Motion Picture Association Worldwide Internet Enforcement who seemed really quite pissed off

Theo · 04-30-2003, 04:11 AM

lol great

senseidru · 04-30-2003, 04:34 AM

I say fuck ntl, they tried to pull off that "1GB per day" bandwidth limit which I heard they have now scrapped because of the thousands of compaints and demonstrations they got from it.

[Labret] · 04-30-2003, 04:35 AM

so stop using p2p and set up an ftp.

SpaceAce · 04-30-2003, 04:35 AM

Having copyrighted material on your computer and using a file sharing service is not a crime. Distributing is another matter, but they can't prove that.

Tell them to fuck off. I don't know your situation, but around here, there must be 35 ISPs to choose from. I'm sure as shit not going to let my provider tell me what data I can put across the lines. Bits and bytes, it's none of their business until a court subpoenas them.

SpaceAce

BritishTwinks · 04-30-2003, 04:36 AM

eeek - I had an NTL phone line once and it had faults more often than it worked!

Kat - Fast · 04-30-2003, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce
Having copyrighted material on your computer and using a file sharing service is not a crime. Distributing is another matter, but they can't prove that.

Tell them to fuck off. I don't know your situation, but around here, there must be 35 ISPs to choose from. I'm sure as shit not going to let my provider tell me what data I can put across the lines. Bits and bytes, it's none of their business until a court subpoenas them.

SpaceAce

The isp has included a copy of the letter stating my ip, what files of theirs I was sharing on what date and at what time.

There is no-one else offering broadband in this area.

The letter from MPAA was a legal threat to my isp telling them to cut me off immediately (which they obviously haven't)

Now - who wants to tell me about ip spoofing...

Dildozer · 04-30-2003, 12:45 PM

Don't you realise it people?
This could very well be the beginning of the end of P2P !
Think: no more free porn on peer2peer networks!
The only thorn in the side will be tgp

DrGuile · 04-30-2003, 12:49 PM

You guys are not following the news very closely.

You know that freedom you love so much.

ITS GONE.

MPAA doesnt need ANYTHING from the court to threaten your ISP and THEY HAVE to comply.

The ISP wont fight it, because they will loose.

Leaving you, proper fucked

Kat - Fast · 04-30-2003, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrGuile
You guys are not following the news very closely.

You know that freedom you love so much.
ITS GONE.

MPAA doesnt need ANYTHING from the court to threaten your ISP and THEY HAVE to comply.

The ISP wont fight it, because they will loose.

Leaving you, proper fucked

Yup - I'm usually game for a fight, on this occasion I can't as my isp has every right to can me and they aren't going to stand up to MPAA - so I lose by default

04-30-2003, 12:55 PM

Just quit sharing them. They appear to be only going after people that let other people download files from their computer. Let someone else take the fall.

If you just stick to downloading the odd music file you will be alright. It's letting other people have access to the files on your computer that seems to get you in trouble.

Pretty hard to prove you violated copyrights if you are just downloading MP3's, since they would have to rule out the fact that you might have the original CD at home, in which case you could argue downloading a copy would fall under fair use.

(Sorry Mr. Lawyer, I don't know how to convert my CD collection to MP3 files so I was just downloading them off the net)

They can't prove shit unless they want to get a search warrant.

04-30-2003, 04:08 AM	#1
Kat - Fast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The bushes behind your house Posts: 2,303	Letter from my ISP - no file sharing! Ya - my ISP (ntl) have just sent me a letter stating that copyrighted titles were available on my pc with a 'peer-to-peer' service and that I stop or lose my access. Bugger. They included a letter from the Motion Picture Association Worldwide Internet Enforcement who seemed really quite pissed off

04-30-2003, 04:34 AM	#3
senseidru Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: UKStyle.UKFlow Posts: 1,767	I say fuck ntl, they tried to pull off that "1GB per day" bandwidth limit which I heard they have now scrapped because of the thousands of compaints and demonstrations they got from it. __________________

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DrGuile Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,025	You guys are not following the news very closely. You know that freedom you love so much. ITS GONE. MPAA doesnt need ANYTHING from the court to threaten your ISP and THEY HAVE to comply. The ISP wont fight it, because they will loose. Leaving you, proper fucked __________________ LiveBucks / Privatefeeds - Giving you money since 1999 Up to 50% Commission! 25% Webmaster Referal Powered by Gamma

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04-30-2003, 04:35 AM	#5
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	Having copyrighted material on your computer and using a file sharing service is not a crime. Distributing is another matter, but they can't prove that. Tell them to fuck off. I don't know your situation, but around here, there must be 35 ISPs to choose from. I'm sure as shit not going to let my provider tell me what data I can put across the lines. Bits and bytes, it's none of their business until a court subpoenas them. SpaceAce

04-30-2003, 12:55 PM	#11
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	Just quit sharing them. They appear to be only going after people that let other people download files from their computer. Let someone else take the fall. If you just stick to downloading the odd music file you will be alright. It's letting other people have access to the files on your computer that seems to get you in trouble. Pretty hard to prove you violated copyrights if you are just downloading MP3's, since they would have to rule out the fact that you might have the original CD at home, in which case you could argue downloading a copy would fall under fair use. (Sorry Mr. Lawyer, I don't know how to convert my CD collection to MP3 files so I was just downloading them off the net) They can't prove shit unless they want to get a search warrant. Last edited by evildick; 04-30-2003 at 12:57 PM..