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UnseenWorld · 04-28-2003, 01:32 AM

I see him posting on this board. He was distressed and needed to sell a still-in-the-box laptop, and I busted a hump to help him by wiring the money, and sure enough the laptop arrived. I asked him to make sure I got the bill of sale so I could have a warranty and take it abroad with me, and he assured me it'd be included, but it was not in the package and all attempts to ask him for it in private have failed (several ICQ's and at least three e-mails over the last 3 or so weeks). I've even asked him to contact me in his posts. All to no avail, so detoxed: what's the deal? Is this laptop hot? And if not, why can't I get a bill fo sale? And if there's a good reason why I can't have one, why do I have to ask you in public?

B40 · 04-28-2003, 01:35 AM

I'm feeling hot hot hot!

Brujah · 04-28-2003, 01:37 AM

was it a good deal ?

Fletch XXX · 04-28-2003, 01:38 AM

detoxed is a narc.
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this post is a definition on how to fuel the best flames.

watch.

quiet · 04-28-2003, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by B40
I'm feeling hot hot hot!

Fletch XXX · 04-28-2003, 01:49 AM

i am the enemy.

please someone show me hate so i can mirror it.

'it never ends.'

Gutterboy · 04-28-2003, 01:50 AM

Who worked in the IT industry in the late 90's and isn't loaded down with laptops??

I'm using an IBM 590 thinkpad as a doorstop and two P2 600e's stacked on top of each other as a foot rest. lol

quiet · 04-28-2003, 01:50 AM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy
Who worked in the IT industry in the late 90's and isn't loaded down with laptops?

I'm using an IBM 590 thinkpad as a doorstop and two P2 600e's stacked on top of each other as a foot rest. lol

lol. i remember when pets.com went down and they were selling hardware for cents on the dollar.

Gutterboy · 04-28-2003, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

lol. i remember when pets.com went down and they were selling hardware for cents on the dollar.

During the .com boom, as long as you were in a large company, even 1st level tech support people had unfettered access to the parts/ordering systems.

Vendors like Vanstar didn't even require that the broken PC or part you were replacing be sent back to them, so people would order a "replacement" for something that wasn't broken, replace it, and lift the old one.

A guy I worked with at Cadence Design got busted with two Sun UltraSparc Station's ($10k a pop then) and 15 laptops he'd aquired that way. That was only what they found when they raided his place.. he'd been selling them for 2 years on EBay.

quiet · 04-28-2003, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy
A guy I worked with at Cadence Design got busted with two Sun Sparc Station's (around $10k a pop then) and 15 laptops he'd aquired that way. That was only what they found when they raided his place.. he'd been selling them for 2 years on EBay.

ahaha. must have done well.

have you ever seen startup.com?

Gutterboy · 04-28-2003, 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

ahaha. must have done well.

have you ever seen startup.com?

Yeah, its a good representation of the orgy of greed and sudden wealth that went on. I did IT contracts for Sybase, Netscape, Cadence, PeopleSoft, and a bunch of smaller companies.. lots of fun.

The money wasn't just at the top either.. it was true trickle down economics.

The bottom feeders.. new helpdesk people with no experience.. were getting $25-$30 an hour to start. Adding in the time and a half you charged for staying at work 'till 9pm playing Doom on the LAN, alot of these fuckers were pulling in six figures.

If you knew anything at all about windows networks.. $50+/hour.. Unix $100+/hour.. router programming and enterprise level networking.. you could write your own paycheck.

Only lasted a couple of years.. but it was a blast. Companies were bleeding cash from every orifice imaginable... total chaos.

quiet · 04-28-2003, 02:47 AM

god damn.

i read Netscape Time by Jim Clark. good read. all those instant millionaires. i'm facinated by that period of internet culture... amazing. especially because it never affected me.

i simply watched it all unfold.

a good mocumentary on it all is "dot"

Gutterboy · 04-28-2003, 03:07 AM

One of the funnier things I saw was a 10-15 person multimedia development startup who instituted an "Employee of the Month" policy.

Alot of places would give out cool shit.. beer, cash, maybe even a laptop. They bought a Lotus Esprit and let the employee of the month have it for 30 days + a corporate gas card.

I think they lasted like 8 months.

quiet · 04-28-2003, 03:17 AM

looking back, i remember so many saying the entire thing was unsustainable.

but no one wanted to listen. there was talk of the bubble burst years before it actually happened. apparently it was so easy to get vc, you didn't need jack shit to get funded. crazy.

B40 · 04-28-2003, 03:18 AM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy
One of the funnier things I saw was a 10-15 person multimedia development startup who instituted an "Employee of the Month" policy.

Alot of places would give out cool shit.. beer, cash, maybe even a laptop. They bought a Lotus Esprit and let the employee of the month have it for 30 days + a corporate gas card.

I think they lasted like 8 months.

The only Internet company in the dot com boom that didn't do shit like that was ebay. Great lesson in cost accounting and budgeting.

B40 · 04-28-2003, 03:18 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
looking back, i remember so many saying the entire thing was unsustainable.

but no one wanted to listen. there was talk of the bubble burst years before it actually happened. apparently it was so easy to get vc, you didn't need jack shit to get funded. crazy.

All you needed was a company name that ended with "dot com".

detoxed · 04-28-2003, 09:19 AM

I told you upfront the laptop was a gift to me. You didnt ask anything about a bill of sale until after it had alread been shipped out to you. End of story.

Fletch XXX · 04-28-2003, 09:22 AM

good morning vietnam.

;)

UnseenWorld · 05-02-2003, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
I told you upfront the laptop was a gift to me. You didnt ask anything about a bill of sale until after it had alread been shipped out to you. End of story.

So, what is there about asking for a bill of sale that's so unreasonable? No longer on good terms with whoever gave it to you?

detoxed · 05-02-2003, 04:32 PM

It was a gift, thats whats wrong with it. You didnt mention anything about a bill of sale until after you bought it. Otherwise I would not have sold it to you, because I knew I wont get one.

UnseenWorld · 05-03-2003, 01:30 AM

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Originally posted by detoxed
It was a gift, thats whats wrong with it. You didnt mention anything about a bill of sale until after you bought it. Otherwise I would not have sold it to you, because I knew I wont get one.

That's strange. Even you would want a bill of sale for the warranty, which is all I want.

I do want to note, however, that you did WRITE ME that one was coming, so how does that jibe with your latest comment that you knew you wouldn't get one?

If my dad, for example, gave me a laptop, he'd understand that warranties require bills of sale.

I'm starting to wonder if this laptop "fell off a truck."

Oh, and if one thing pisses me off, it's that once you had the money, you ignored my polite and friendly ICQ's and my e-mails and forced me to take THIS approach.

By now, I realize there is no bill of sale forthcoming. Had you been an honest person, you could have said that the first time I asked.

Turboface · 05-03-2003, 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

I'm starting to wonder if this laptop "fell off a truck."

My computer fell off the back of a truck.

Thank God, it wasn't damaged too badly.

04-28-2003, 01:32 AM	#1
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	Detoxed, Where Are You? I see him posting on this board. He was distressed and needed to sell a still-in-the-box laptop, and I busted a hump to help him by wiring the money, and sure enough the laptop arrived. I asked him to make sure I got the bill of sale so I could have a warranty and take it abroad with me, and he assured me it'd be included, but it was not in the package and all attempts to ask him for it in private have failed (several ICQ's and at least three e-mails over the last 3 or so weeks). I've even asked him to contact me in his posts. All to no avail, so detoxed: what's the deal? Is this laptop hot? And if not, why can't I get a bill fo sale? And if there's a good reason why I can't have one, why do I have to ask you in public? __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

04-28-2003, 01:35 AM	#2
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04-28-2003, 01:37 AM	#3
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04-28-2003, 01:38 AM	#4
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	detoxed is a narc. ----------------------------------------- this post is a definition on how to fuel the best flames. watch. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-28-2003, 01:49 AM	#6
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	i am the enemy. please someone show me hate so i can mirror it. 'it never ends.' __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-28-2003, 01:50 AM	#7
Gutterboy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dis Posts: 4,751	Who worked in the IT industry in the late 90's and isn't loaded down with laptops?? I'm using an IBM 590 thinkpad as a doorstop and two P2 600e's stacked on top of each other as a foot rest. lol

04-28-2003, 02:47 AM	#12
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	god damn. i read Netscape Time by Jim Clark. good read. all those instant millionaires. i'm facinated by that period of internet culture... amazing. especially because it never affected me. i simply watched it all unfold. a good mocumentary on it all is "dot" Last edited by quiet; 04-28-2003 at 02:50 AM..

04-28-2003, 03:07 AM	#13
Gutterboy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dis Posts: 4,751	One of the funnier things I saw was a 10-15 person multimedia development startup who instituted an "Employee of the Month" policy. Alot of places would give out cool shit.. beer, cash, maybe even a laptop. They bought a Lotus Esprit and let the employee of the month have it for 30 days + a corporate gas card. I think they lasted like 8 months.

04-28-2003, 03:17 AM	#14
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	looking back, i remember so many saying the entire thing was unsustainable. but no one wanted to listen. there was talk of the bubble burst years before it actually happened. apparently it was so easy to get vc, you didn't need jack shit to get funded. crazy.

04-28-2003, 09:19 AM	#17
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	I told you upfront the laptop was a gift to me. You didnt ask anything about a bill of sale until after it had alread been shipped out to you. End of story.

04-28-2003, 09:22 AM	#18
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	good morning vietnam. ;) __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

05-02-2003, 04:32 PM	#20
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	It was a gift, thats whats wrong with it. You didnt mention anything about a bill of sale until after you bought it. Otherwise I would not have sold it to you, because I knew I wont get one.