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Grapesoda 12-06-2017 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22103859)
Why?

For better or for worse, Hillary Clinton had decades of experience in government and politics, not to mention she is also an attorney. She was First Lady for eight years, Congresswoman, and then Secretary of State.



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one of the business advantages a newer company has over an older established company is lack of long-term contracts locking the company into a rigid pricing structure that might not be as competitive. thus allowing the new less established company to make a higher profit.

so how many favours, and compromises and extenuating circumstances and blah blah blah do you think Mrs Clinton has after 40 years of fighting in the complete shit of political wars?

why would you want anyone with that much dirty baggage in office is beyond me. fuck, I even heard her admit that the Clintons had paid off women for the sexual harassment of big bad bill.... wtf???

that's the kind of fucking scum we need in office for sure... gee WTF was I thinking :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

MFCT 12-07-2017 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22102620)
And you touch chump's cock and you blow him..Next you are going to say something to defend Moore touching a 14 year olds pussy.
Well, as for Moore, even if is confirmed that the girl made it all up...even if she admits it was all a fabricated lie to make him lose the election...I'll still believe Moore did it. Because he's a conservative. And I don't like conservatives. I want to believe. I demand to believe, even if its not true. Demanding to believe something makes it true. So its true regardless (because he's a conservative). So there.

Paul Markham 12-07-2017 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by druid66 (Post 22102359)
that's what i was initially thinking - that most of the people hate dude cuz what he is and people on such position should be judged by acts not how he look, behave etc.. fuck his character if he will do good for Americans then it's ok.
but as this thread develop it's not that simple, appointing ignorants on positions in government is really bad, from the other side - does ppl who previously take those positions was better? the more i read the more question it raises.
A democratic system sadly doesn't work on peoples abilities. It works purely on marketing and spin then what the people choose. Enough people disliked Clinton to change the vote to a person like Trump.

Was that because they are sick and tired of bought politicians, the PC agenda that is thrust upon them, or what?

Most of the country do not want illegal aliens, jobs going overseas, bankers running an economy, their living standards declining, etc. A vote for Clinton was a vote for more of the same.

It was her's to win. She lost. What does that tell you? Nothing has been revealed after the elections to change that.

Paul Markham 12-07-2017 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22102662)
if you would be sick and i tell you that i have a water what will cure you - what would you all do for get this glas of pure water?
At least you get it. Clinton promised more drought for most Americans.

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he is a hate creater who is using easy and populistic answers letting the stupids think they their ideas are the right ideas.
while the western world learned to live in peace together and learned that there can never be ONE winner in a deal - he makes people think that a country and a race can control the rest.

america is not far from a civil war because the country was never been divided like that since the last civil war.

so if there is anything he can not be hated for - i did not find it yet.
Enough people are sick of the "Love thy Enemy" approach the libs have enforced on them. Most do not want Muslims in their midst, they know Islam is completely opposed to Western Standards. Tell me why I should love Muslims, other than they are Brown. That does not mean I hate all of them, just the ones who hate Western morals and ethics.

Same goes for Mexicans and all illegal migrants. Or fake refugees.

Paul Markham 12-07-2017 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22103793)
if you have to choose between cancer and aids what would you prefer?
hillary was for sure not the right candidate but without the fake news even her would win against trump (mickey mouse would be able to win against him) and IF she would win she would be the smaller problem for the world.

so in this case the opinion was between a flu and cancer because the rest of the world would deal with a calculable disease and would have an influence to stop her.

trump donīt gives a flying fuck on established and calculable rules of diplomacy.
he was presenting the chinese the asian market on a silver tray becaue he is not familiar with the global market.
he thinks he can throw the chinese from their position instead to worry about the chinese position. when china fails it is the end of the us economy because they are the biggest creditor for usa and they are the motor for the world economy.

if china fails - americans will eat shit - not easy to accept - but true if you research it.

this guy have NOT the smallest clue of economy what he did not even prove inside the usa because thereīs nearly nobody going through that many bankruptcies and surviving by not paying back loans as trump did.
do you thing the creditor will accept that?
his big china deal he made - do you think the chinese will pay for it ?
us owes them so much money that they will accept every work americans will do for them - but do you REALLY thing the pay it ? would you pay your debtor in that case ?

did you or someone else ever read something about HOW this "big deals with china" will be paid ? no !!!! because they will not be paid at all - USA OWSE money to china and they are not so stupid to pay for what they receive.
NOBODY will pay for it except the the low and middle class in usa.

ok still their problem even when america is a big number in the global trade and it will hurt the world economy. but they count on that already THE WORLD is prepared for that while in USA some stupids still think they play a role.

if you are just a bit familiar with world economy you can see CLEARLY that the world is prepared for the next big crash - only us is not.
this next crash will hurt MUCH more as the last one but 90% of the countries will survive it - under this 90% is NOT america.

this next crash will open the sale for the world.
USA will not be owned by americans. it will be owned form all the smarter and the creditors what have saved USA in the last decades from bankrupcy.

look what usa is here

would you invest in such a stillbirth?

and they want to be FIRST? for WHAT FUCKING REASON?

every company manager would go to jail for insolvency transfer - might be that trup is a person who could handle that with his companies and did not give a fuck to the companies what went bankrupt because he did not pay them. do you REALLY think that the world will let him play this game on their shoulders?
NOBODY - except brainwashed trump supporters can be so stupid to believe that.
Clinton offered a lot more of the same things that were ruining American Lives. Trump offered an alternative.

Which one is Cancer and which one Aids?

NOBODY - except brainwashed Clinton supporters can be so stupid to believe anything else.

Paul Markham 12-07-2017 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by druid66 (Post 22103829)
thank you, it will be interesting to see how US would solve this if it could be solved anyhow?
and yes from a long time i was always keep telling that China rules the world, they conquer western world with simple economics. they deliver products everwhere, they make most of parts for every electronics and other stuff, hell they don't even need army to win :D
wonder if Trump has any plan to play this right?
Trade has given to them by billionaires, corporations and bent politicians. If those most of those jobs were in the West. Trump would lose.

Clinton's has been part of the organisation who gave those jobs away.

Paul Markham 12-07-2017 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22103859)
Why?

For better or for worse, Hillary Clinton had decades of experience in government and politics, not to mention she is also an attorney. She was First Lady for eight years, Congresswoman, and then Secretary of State.

Can you name one thing she did wrong? "But the emails...." They way she handled her emails was the same way other Secretaries of State and members of Congress handled their emails - This was common practice. "Oh, Benghazi...." This was a terrorist attack that had NOTHING to do with the State Department or Hillary Clinton - AT ALL. Once the attack started there was NOTHING the State Department or the Secretary of State could do. The moment the attack started, this become a problem for the President and a military matter, not State Department.

I am not a fan of Hillary Clinton, but she is clearly qualified and is, by far, the most vetted candidate we've EVER had.
And how well do you think the government, that Clinton was a member of, has done for you?

She has been part of the thing that has sold out the US?

Sarn 12-07-2017 04:47 AM
>Why so many ppl hate Trump so much?

Trump love them in good tempo :)

NewNick 12-07-2017 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22104177)
I've got big tits and luxurious expensively-cut hair, so it's fine :thumbsup
Quote of the day.

That might even make it into my sig.

:thumbsup

I like quotes that can be used in answer to any situation whatsoever.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Paul Markham 12-07-2017 05:38 AM
http://apjjf.org/data/Chart_1.jpg

It's the same for the EU so a dig at both governments for them giving away jobs and $trillions. The damage to the Western world is now being felt.

http://redstatetalkradio.com/redstat...tion-chart.jpg

This represents more Americans losing wages or jobs.

http://www.motherjones.com/wp-conten...lsinceWWII.png

Since the 50s the US has been involved in wars in places it had nothing to protect. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Syria/Iraq.

http://www.mybudget360.com/wp-conten...percentile.jpg

http://cdn.equitablegrowth.org/wp-co...z2_6262015.jpg

So what part of Hillary's 'experience' do you love? Hillary is guilty of allowing this to happen. Yes, she has been at the centre of what shapes your lives for the last 35 years. How does her CV look now? As Thommy says when a Snake oil salesman offers a different route most will try it.

The problem is getting leaders who will change the above statistics in favour of the West.

Rochard 12-07-2017 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22104243)
one of the business advantages a newer company has over an older established company is lack of long-term contracts locking the company into a rigid pricing structure that might not be as competitive. thus allowing the new less established company to make a higher profit.

so how many favours, and compromises and extenuating circumstances and blah blah blah do you think Mrs Clinton has after 40 years of fighting in the complete shit of political wars?

why would you want anyone with that much dirty baggage in office is beyond me. fuck, I even heard her admit that the Clintons had paid off women for the sexual harassment of big bad bill.... wtf???

that's the kind of fucking scum we need in office for sure... gee WTF was I thinking :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
This doesn't...even make any sense? You mean a brand new President who is in debt to everyone with political power who gives positions to only unqualified people who supported him is the better choice?

Yes, Ben Carson to the run the housing department. That's pure brilliance right there.

What dirty baggage? She is by far the most vetted candidate in the history of our country - We just read tens of thousands of her emails and came up with no wrong doing.

Rochard 12-07-2017 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22104846)
So our solution is to not have any trade agreement, and allow China to control all trade in the Pacific. Utterly brilliant.

Paul Markham 12-07-2017 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22105014)
So our solution is to not have any trade agreement, and allow China to control all trade in the Pacific. Utterly brilliant.
Without the West as a trading partner, there is no Third World Market to trade with. They have no money.

What you fail to realise is giving a country $100 and getting back $75 is a bad deal. Giving China the ability to build an economy that overtakes the West, then China giving back some of that money. Should be regarded as insane, unless you run a big corporation manufacturing in China.

Acepimp 12-07-2017 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22105008)
This doesn't...even make any sense? You mean a brand new President who is in debt to everyone with political power who gives positions to only unqualified people who supported him is the better choice?

Yes, Ben Carson to the run the housing department. That's pure brilliance right there.

What dirty baggage? She is by far the most vetted candidate in the history of our country - We just read tens of thousands of her emails and came up with no wrong doing.
Rochard, you're either insane or clueless about politics. How is Trump "in debt to everyone with political power"?? (You just described Hillary taking bribes with her fake foundation)

What's wrong with choosing a brilliant retired neurosurgeon? You prefer dumb people?

What dirty baggage??? It's official- you're insane. She's the wife of former president. So what? You think that qualifies her? --- But she's a senator! --- No, she was able to get elected ONLY because JFK Jr crashed his plane. He would've easily beat her. And what did she accomplish in 8 years? She got a building named. WOW she should be president!! LOL :1orglaugh

Fact is her experience is all BAD. Dozens of scandals, killed Gadaffi which led to more terror and slave markets today, she was arming terror groups, she tried to hide her criminal schemes on an illegal unsecure server (which was hacked) .. Ovewrthrowing governments in latin america, rigging foreign election and our own.. WOW she should be president! LOL you clueless libs crack me the fuck UP! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:pimp

Acepimp 12-07-2017 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22103793)
hillary was for sure not the right candidate but without the fake news even her would win against trump (mickey mouse would be able to win against him) and IF she would win she would be the smaller problem for the world.

....more clueless lib rambling....
WHAT fake news? You mean the DNC leaks that exposed the criminal scheme to rig the primary for Hillary? Or do you mean the leaked Podesta emails that exposed even more corruption, collusion with the mainstream media, satanism, and the pedophile rings?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8EKGkWvfF...t-11991990.png

https://i.imgflip.com/1dq0qt.jpg

Thommy, she's evil and everyone knows it but you (and Rochard) :2 cents:

:pimp

Grapesoda 12-07-2017 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22104177)
I've got big tits and luxurious expensively-cut hair, so it's fine :thumbsup
lol!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Grapesoda 12-07-2017 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22105008)
This doesn't...even make any sense? You mean a brand new President who is in debt to everyone with political power who gives positions to only unqualified people who supported him is the better choice?

Yes, Ben Carson to the run the housing department. That's pure brilliance right there.

What dirty baggage? She is by far the most vetted candidate in the history of our country - We just read tens of thousands of her emails and came up with no wrong doing.
read the business section Rockhard, stop reading politics. in business there is a bottom line in politics there is no bottom or any line.

rockhard you are a bigot when it comes to Mrs Clinton. you will except ONLY one reality, that is the very definition of bigotry. :2 cents:

thommy 12-07-2017 12:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22103859)
Why?

For better or for worse, Hillary Clinton had decades of experience in government and politics, not to mention she is also an attorney. She was First Lady for eight years, Congresswoman, and then Secretary of State.

Can you name one thing she did wrong? "But the emails...." They way she handled her emails was the same way other Secretaries of State and members of Congress handled their emails - This was common practice. "Oh, Benghazi...." This was a terrorist attack that had NOTHING to do with the State Department or Hillary Clinton - AT ALL. Once the attack started there was NOTHING the State Department or the Secretary of State could do. The moment the attack started, this become a problem for the President and a military matter, not State Department.

I am not a fan of Hillary Clinton, but she is clearly qualified and is, by far, the most vetted candidate we've EVER had.
i do not doubt that hillary have a lot more experience an knowledge of the "political job".

hillary was not the right candidate because whe woul have split the country also - maybe not that much a trump does but she was not perfect because she is just good to continue the political game.

trump did not ONLY win because of fake news and throwing dirt on her. he was voted because the people are tired from this good all game.
i hope it is out of doubt that the US needs a change. but the problems are much much deeper. they are in the system. starting at the election rules and ending in the fact that only rich people can afford to finance a campaign.

look who is the US government - ist there ONE who can represent the majority of the country or is it because they can finance their election?
and yes - trump is exactly the wrong answer on that because here we have the special case that an idiot could afford to pay for it.

us problems are much deeper - hillary would be the one what would be able to handle it the was it is and trump is the one who is changing it in the COMPLETE wrong direction what is even worse.

the problem is is the system and the us constitution but no candidate can win who would be willing to touch that.

no - i do not have a smart solution on that - i just see what goes wrong and went from bad to worse.

thommy 12-07-2017 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22105227)
Without the West as a trading partner, there is no Third World Market to trade with. They have no money.

What you fail to realise is giving a country $100 and getting back $75 is a bad deal. Giving China the ability to build an economy that overtakes the West, then China giving back some of that money. Should be regarded as insane, unless you run a big corporation manufacturing in China.
i think you are far behind the reality.
let china fail and the first what is fucked is USA. and after that europe.
the real problem is not chinas power - the problem comes when they fail.

all your stats just show one thing: china have the more interesting products for USA and USA have not enough products for china.
but maybe research how much china is buying from US.
the only thing they donīt buy and need are american weapons.
but unfortunately this is the only worldwide market where US is doing a great marketing.
they take care that countries are bombed with US bombs.
and the Chinese and European Union have the products for reconstruct them.

the funny thing is that even the US weapon industry could not compete without deliveries from china.

the truth is that we should WORRY about chinaīs health because meanwhile not one country in the world can live without them.

one of the worldīs biggest industries is travel market.
they made a hype like no other. do you know WHY ? because of the chinese !

trump saved 50.000 coal worker jobs and went out of the paris climate contract.
since that MILLIONS of jobs in the renewable energies where created. also a few in USA
but even THEM would not survive without china deliveries.

maybe trump would say you are right but trump is the guy who does not have a CLUE of whatīs going on. in this 11 month under trump USA already lost so much that it will take CENTURIES to get it back. and AFTER those centuries USA is only at status quo and not one step further.
letīs see where china and the european union is than.
maybe the next generation will discuss about US-immigrants what have to leave their country because there is no life anymore.

Rochard 12-07-2017 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22105227)
Without the West as a trading partner, there is no Third World Market to trade with. They have no money.
Look at a map, will you? What you are saying is Canada has no money? Or Australia? Or Mexico? Or any of the countries in South America?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22105227)
What you fail to realise is giving a country $100 and getting back $75 is a bad deal. Giving China the ability to build an economy that overtakes the West, then China giving back some of that money. Should be regarded as insane, unless you run a big corporation manufacturing in China.
This is the part you don't get.... The trade imbalance is still there, still exists, and now the United States has LESS bargaining power than before.

GabriellaGhill 12-07-2017 01:55 PM
Well, maybe I'm not an expert in politic but I think that people hate Trump because when he talks it's disrecpectful with latin american people and all the foreigns, also because he thinks that the global warming is like an "invent" from some persons who don't want that the world continue developing technology and creating capitalist empires.... well, I repeat it's just my opinion, maybe I should meet him to talk properly hahaha
Greetings, Gaby.

Paul Markham 12-08-2017 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22105698)
i think you are far behind the reality.
let china fail and the first what is fucked is USA. and after that europe.
the real problem is not chinas power - the problem comes when they fail.

all your stats just show one thing: china have the more interesting products for USA and USA have not enough products for china.
but maybe research how much china is buying from US.
the only thing they donīt buy and need are american weapons.
but unfortunately this is the only worldwide market where US is doing a great marketing.
they take care that countries are bombed with US bombs.
and the Chinese and European Union have the products for reconstruct them.

the funny thing is that even the US weapon industry could not compete without deliveries from china.

the truth is that we should WORRY about chinaīs health because meanwhile not one country in the world can live without them.

one of the worldīs biggest industries is travel market.
they made a hype like no other. do you know WHY ? because of the chinese !

trump saved 50.000 coal worker jobs and went out of the paris climate contract.
since that MILLIONS of jobs in the renewable energies where created. also a few in USA
but even THEM would not survive without china deliveries.

maybe trump would say you are right but trump is the guy who does not have a CLUE of whatīs going on. in this 11 month under trump USA already lost so much that it will take CENTURIES to get it back. and AFTER those centuries USA is only at status quo and not one step further.
letīs see where china and the european union is than.
maybe the next generation will discuss about US-immigrants what have to leave their country because there is no life anymore.
I agree fully with your argument. Now China has so much of the US economy in its grip we have no choice. Just force them to balance the trade. If onlt the politicians had known what they were giving away back in the day. Or maybe they did but the corporations ordered them to lose American jobs and send them to China.

Paul Markham 12-08-2017 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22105707)
Look at a map, will you? What you are saying is Canada has no money? Or Australia? Or Mexico? Or any of the countries in South America?
Canada and Ausdtralia are fine. But countries like Vietnam, Mexico, etc. Sell more than they buy.



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This is the part you don't get.... The trade imbalance is still there, still exists, and now the United States has LESS bargaining power than before.
Agree. See what your politicians have done to your country. The bargaining power the US is the enormous buying power it has. But if no one is willing to use it, it's useless.

thommy 12-08-2017 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22106910)
I agree fully with your argument. Now China has so much of the US economy in its grip we have no choice. Just force them to balance the trade. If onlt the politicians had known what they were giving away back in the day. Or maybe they did but the corporations ordered them to lose American jobs and send them to China.
paul the point is the following:

the MOST imports from china are used for products what USA exports in the whole world.

USA have an advantage because they can buy cheap in china and can compete with their own products in the international market.

if china delivers much more as they buy does not mean that this money comes back FROM china. the exports are going into the rest of the world and they would not exist without the cheap labour and parts from china.

when you drive to the gasoline station and pay 100 euro for a full tank you can not say the the owner of the gasoline station have to buy for 100 euro from you, because he possibly donīt want or need your product but you need his gasoline to see your customers.
if you do not buy gasoline anymore because the gasoline station owners donīt buy from you - you must close your biz.

if america wants news jobs they should look into the NEW WORLD and not in the yesterday world.
cancelling the paris contract AND producing millions of new jobs in this green energy economy does not go together.
other countries (and here again especially china) did it and growing like crazy.

so WHO is the failure in the game - the one who does not see opportunities and works in the pocket of the existing establishment or the ones who see it do it and win ?

trump even gave china the complete asian market on a silver tray. the idiot canceled the transatlantic deals and china jumped in.
trillions of dollars in trades in the next decades what trump have throwing in the waste.

i am sure it does not hit him personally because even when the country will loose there are a couple of winners and they will say thank you to trump somehow.
but it is out of ANY doubt that he ruins the american economy in a speed what is really unique. it will take less than 2 years til EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD can see that.
and even when they impeach him tomorrow the damage will need decades to be repaired.

bronco67 12-08-2017 07:17 AM
I just keep seeing the title of this thread on the board and it's so funny to me that someone needs to ask why such an obviously vile piece of shit is so hated. Is that question an attempt at deadpan humor? Watching the behavior of Donald Trump and not seeing a garbage human being is a character flaw.

Acepimp 12-08-2017 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22106979)
I just keep seeing the title of this thread on the board and it's so funny to me that someone needs to ask why such an obviously vile piece of shit is so hated. Is that question an attempt at deadpan humor? Watching the behavior of Donald Trump and not seeing a garbage human being is a character flaw.
For the first time, a president is delivering on his campaign promises.

No valid reason not to like what he's done / doing :2 cents:

bronco67 12-08-2017 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22107036)
For the first time, a president is delivering on his campaign promises.

No valid reason not to like what he's done / doing :2 cents:
Campaign promises are for suckers.

nico-t 12-08-2017 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22106979)
such an obviously vile piece of shit is so hated.
talk about being bitter, damn... You got any actual facts your hatred is based on, or is it only your mainstream media manipulated emotions? By facts i mean cold hard facts, no biased stories ridden with emotions from bitter 'journalists'. Just facts. Good luck! :2 cents:

nico-t 12-08-2017 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22107045)
Campaign promises are for suckers.
what! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Actually doing what you promised the people, that voted on you because of what you promised... is now a bad thing? WTF!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Rochard 12-08-2017 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22106919)
Agree. See what your politicians have done to your country. The bargaining power the US is the enormous buying power it has. But if no one is willing to use it, it's useless.
So you agree that this is a bad decision. You just admitted the trade imbalance continues, and now we are powerless to do anything about it.

Paul Markham 12-08-2017 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22107195)
So you agree that this is a bad decision. You just admitted the trade imbalance continues, and now we are powerless to do anything about it.
So a deal that makes it harder to eliminate the trade deficit should stay so the US can do what?

Access to the US is a prize the US can now hold as a ransom to those who buy US products.


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