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harvey · 04-26-2003, 10:54 PM

So I posted a question about the balloon niche yesterday, which you can see at http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=128272 . Despite some smart ass answers, I got some useful info, specially from MandyD. Funny thing is that my wife is a psychologist, and even when she didn't even hear about this fetish, she gave me an explanation which was almost 100% confirmed on other sources I found. It seems that ALL fetishes have the same origin and psychologically they all work more or less the same. Very long story and I still miss a part, but it includes Melanie Klein, bad breast and good breast theory, schizoid paranoid disorders and all that kind of glamour things. I know she's really smart, but never thought to that point.

Anyway, here's some facts I've found about this fetish:
- it's part of latex fetish
- it's related to breast feeding and also puerility. Most of them like childlish images
- the pleasure is connected to different stimuli, from touch and sight, to smell
- there are 2 main groups of "looners": poppers and non poppers. Poppers are those who need the balloon to burst to get to the climax. These is the biggest group.
- non-poppers are the psichologically more "deviated"
- some "looner" activities include popping, bouncing, squeezing, blowing and aspiring air from balloons

With all this data, I tried to incorporate it into a more simpler concept, which you can see here. This is what I get from absolute knowledge to a little knowledge, so I'd appreciate any constructive criticism, but just in case, read above what matters to "looners" and after that visit one balloon site from one of the big guys. Try to find any similarity between what appeals to them and what they offer. Now, Gothweb, I feel a little less guilty about being responsible for the bad name of porn

harvey · 04-27-2003, 11:40 AM

Triple 6 · 04-27-2003, 11:42 AM

interesting.

Brujah · 04-27-2003, 11:42 AM

Awesome.

Can you explain the sneezing fetish ?

FATPad · 04-27-2003, 11:44 AM

Explain the pissing fetish to me, please. I've never understood it.

Not that I have to, it just always boggles my mind that people get off on watching chicks piss their pants.

Theo · 04-27-2003, 12:06 PM

- it's related to breast feeding and also puerility. Most of them like childlish images

that's what i have heard as well

harvey · 04-27-2003, 12:21 PM

OK, my boys, here it goes: all fetishes have a root in childhood. All children are considered "polimorphic perverts" (go figure!), and that's because they can't see objects as a whole, but they focus in determined parts that for one or other reasons call their attention. The fixation on determined stages causes the fetishism for the loved object. Not all fetishisms have obvious relations, but some of them have deep roots into the unconscious. In the pee example, people has fixation with the anal-sadic stage, and it's originated in the fear of castration. Boys like to see their moms peeing and they think they've very tiny penises or even chopped ones. Eventually, they evolve and in phallic stage they get the body and its functions as a whole. But those with strong fixations to this stage tend to look for the own safety of his penis, and compare it to the lack of penis of the woman. The peeing (and even poo) is just the classical "gift" from childs, it's a gift from their own bodies, and therefore it has strong symbolic connotations.

Finally, all fetishes require an object of love (panties, peeing, latex, leather, ropes), if they don't have it, they're considered pervertions (like rape, including as a fantasy). Not sure about sneezing, first notice I've about its existence, but it looks to me that it's included into the pervert area

Hah! Now I'm ready to open my online "fetishism consulting office"

Brujah · 04-27-2003, 12:23 PM

excellent thread harvey.

harvey · 04-27-2003, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
excellent thread harvey.

thanx goes to my wife, I'm way too square to come to this on my own

Brujah · 04-27-2003, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by harvey

thanx goes to my wife, I'm way too square to come to this on my own

well get her on here.. you go play xbox or something. haha.

gothweb · 04-27-2003, 12:37 PM

Congratulations on doing the research, and getting to know the fetish before doing the design. More people could learn from your example.

Fletch XXX · 04-27-2003, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by harvey

- it's related to breast feeding and also puerility. Most of them like childlish images

thats not too accurate.

harvey · 04-28-2003, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

thats not too accurate.

well, them according to psychologist and also "looners" themselves you know something that no one knows.

This is told by all sources I've found

04-26-2003, 10:54 PM	#1
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	Sharing the knowledge So I posted a question about the balloon niche yesterday, which you can see at http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=128272 . Despite some smart ass answers, I got some useful info, specially from MandyD. Funny thing is that my wife is a psychologist, and even when she didn't even hear about this fetish, she gave me an explanation which was almost 100% confirmed on other sources I found. It seems that ALL fetishes have the same origin and psychologically they all work more or less the same. Very long story and I still miss a part, but it includes Melanie Klein, bad breast and good breast theory, schizoid paranoid disorders and all that kind of glamour things. I know she's really smart, but never thought to that point. Anyway, here's some facts I've found about this fetish: - it's part of latex fetish - it's related to breast feeding and also puerility. Most of them like childlish images - the pleasure is connected to different stimuli, from touch and sight, to smell - there are 2 main groups of "looners": poppers and non poppers. Poppers are those who need the balloon to burst to get to the climax. These is the biggest group. - non-poppers are the psichologically more "deviated" - some "looner" activities include popping, bouncing, squeezing, blowing and aspiring air from balloons With all this data, I tried to incorporate it into a more simpler concept, which you can see here. This is what I get from absolute knowledge to a little knowledge, so I'd appreciate any constructive criticism, but just in case, read above what matters to "looners" and after that visit one balloon site from one of the big guys. Try to find any similarity between what appeals to them and what they offer. Now, Gothweb, I feel a little less guilty about being responsible for the bad name of porn __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

04-27-2003, 11:40 AM	#2
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04-27-2003, 11:42 AM	#4
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04-27-2003, 11:44 AM	#5
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04-27-2003, 12:06 PM	#6
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	- it's related to breast feeding and also puerility. Most of them like childlish images that's what i have heard as well

04-27-2003, 12:21 PM	#7
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	OK, my boys, here it goes: all fetishes have a root in childhood. All children are considered "polimorphic perverts" (go figure!), and that's because they can't see objects as a whole, but they focus in determined parts that for one or other reasons call their attention. The fixation on determined stages causes the fetishism for the loved object. Not all fetishisms have obvious relations, but some of them have deep roots into the unconscious. In the pee example, people has fixation with the anal-sadic stage, and it's originated in the fear of castration. Boys like to see their moms peeing and they think they've very tiny penises or even chopped ones. Eventually, they evolve and in phallic stage they get the body and its functions as a whole. But those with strong fixations to this stage tend to look for the own safety of his penis, and compare it to the lack of penis of the woman. The peeing (and even poo) is just the classical "gift" from childs, it's a gift from their own bodies, and therefore it has strong symbolic connotations. Finally, all fetishes require an object of love (panties, peeing, latex, leather, ropes), if they don't have it, they're considered pervertions (like rape, including as a fantasy). Not sure about sneezing, first notice I've about its existence, but it looks to me that it's included into the pervert area Hah! Now I'm ready to open my online "fetishism consulting office" __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

04-27-2003, 12:23 PM	#8
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	excellent thread harvey. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

04-27-2003, 12:37 PM	#11
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