starting a paysite... setting up w/ ibill, ccbill, pros? cons? - GoFuckYourself.com

sickkittens · 04-26-2003, 10:45 AM

For those that have your own pay sites. What are the pros and cons of ibill, ccbill , and some of the others? Which have setup fees? Which are free?

Any problems with certain ones?

Rictor · 04-26-2003, 10:53 AM

Ibill and CCBill have a $750 VISA fee. Not that big of a deal.

PatrickM · 04-26-2003, 10:54 AM

I can tell only good things about CCbill(eu) and GloBill. I am using both and their customer service is really great and checks arriving on time. I didn't have to pay any setup fees.

No problems so far...

max.yambo · 04-26-2003, 10:57 AM

sickkittens,

contact me via icq. we charge $195 setup fee (you can pay after you start processing). you don't have to pay $750. our merchant discount rate is 8%. we payout each 10 days. thanks.

gothweb · 04-26-2003, 11:01 AM

Okay, CCBill etc. charge $750 for Visa, but other than that never charged a setup fee that I know of. So why in the world does Yambo charge $195?

xxxinnovations · 04-26-2003, 11:05 AM

pswbilling is free... i think.
they're also one of my favorite processors along with jettis for my sites.

-Xinnov

EscortBiz · 04-26-2003, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by gothweb
Okay, CCBill etc. charge $750 for Visa, but other than that never charged a setup fee that I know of. So why in the world does Yambo charge $195?

Companies can charge setup fees for a service.

sickkittens · 04-26-2003, 11:10 AM

So CCBill and iBill are free if I only want to accept M/C & Discover?

max.yambo · 04-26-2003, 11:12 AM

We charge setup fee just to avoid customers who just want to signup - this process takes a little time. That is not that big amount of money to be scared of I think if you really need a processing solution

chupacabra · 04-26-2003, 11:14 AM

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Ibill and CCBill have a $750 VISA fee. Not that big of a deal.

keep in mind that ccBill *refunds* the $750 VISA fine back to you over the course of a few pay periods... iBill does not..

gothweb · 04-26-2003, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

Companies can charge setup fees for a service.

Yes, I understand that. It just doesn't seem very competitive. "We're not Visa compliant, so we only charge $200 setup instead of $750"?

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Originally posted by max.yambo
We charge setup fee just to avoid customers who just want to signup - this process takes a little time. That is not that big amount of money to be scared of I think if you really need a processing solution

Oh, I agree it isn't a ton of money. I just think people will decide to go elsewhere. Personally, I'd think most would gravitate to the safety of total Visa complaince, or to someone with *no* setup fee.

max.yambo · 04-26-2003, 11:20 AM

gothweb,

Sure you would. Unless you're running a small paysite, right?

lagwagon · 04-26-2003, 11:24 AM

well ccbill has six letters in their name and that is always a good thing. the bigger the better right ladies?

max.yambo · 04-26-2003, 11:26 AM

gothweb · 04-26-2003, 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by max.yambo
gothweb,

Sure you would. Unless you're running a small paysite, right?

Hmm? People with small ones would go to the no-setup processors, people with big business won't mind the $750. I'm not sure I see who would choose $200 and a shaky situation with Visa down the road.

max.yambo · 04-26-2003, 11:45 AM

gothweb,

I think ppl with small ones would go with no-setup processor, ppl with middle ones would go with ccbill, ibill, yambo or whatever and ppl with big ones would get their own merchant account where they would be charged like 4.5%

max.yambo · 04-26-2003, 11:50 AM

Btw we can skip the setup fee if it really matters. Like I said - this fee is just to make sure the deal is serious.

Brujah · 04-26-2003, 12:51 PM

ACPay
http://www.acpay.com

Hansm · 04-26-2003, 01:49 PM

Peeps, Yambo is the best, Im using them already for 5 months now and really i cant say anything more but they have EVERYTHING what a webmasters needs.

I can accept paypal payments, i can accept creditcard, and western union and alot more.

And they are offering nice support the whole day too.

My point for yambo is a ten and for the rest a five, why?

CCBill.: 750$ to accept visa
IBill.: 750$ to accept visa
PSWBilling.: Needs a european company anotherwise no visa

i didt try out the rest (ACPay,Verotel and some more), but i like yambo and will continue to use yambo and yambo is offering a realtime interface and verify options for creditcards and alot more.

Shoplifter · 04-26-2003, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by Hansm
Peeps, Yambo is the best, Im using them already for 5 months now and really i cant say anything more but they have EVERYTHING what a webmasters needs.

I can accept paypal payments, i can accept creditcard, and western union and alot more.

Yambo looks interesting...I got a new site going up May 20 still without a biller decided.

What are the holdbacks with Yambo? What is their scrub? What cards do they not process (asian, korean, etc). Do they wire or pay by check?

And what about affiliates?

Hansm · 04-26-2003, 06:34 PM

Yambo is a offshore bank too, your funds will be there, you can order a maestro card for 20$ or a cirrus card for 20$ or a mastercard for 50$, nice options and offcourse wire transfer, western union, paypal, etc.

you need to talk to max about the holdbacks and the rest, i think the are differnt per site dont know, but my holdback is 10%

if you dont have a yambo account yet signup at
http://www.yambo.biz?ref=65878
and use my refferer id if you want.

just sign up at the above url and you will get access to a offshore bank account for free, no charges, there are only charges if you order something a debitcard, etc.

im not spamming here but helping this guy so please dont say im spamming, i just want to earn 1 cent lol.

The Click · 04-26-2003, 06:47 PM

see sig

- No VISA Fees.

max.yambo · 04-27-2003, 09:41 AM

Hansm, thanks

Shoplifter,

Quote:

What are the holdbacks with Yambo? What is their scrub? What cards do they not process (asian, korean, etc). Do they wire or pay by check?
And what about affiliates?

Merchant discount rate - 8%
Holdback reserve - 10% for 180 days.
We approve 75%
We payout each 10 days to your yambo a/c. Then you can transfer money wherever you want.

Anyways - contact me for details and affiliate program.
Thanks.

Rui · 04-27-2003, 10:21 AM

But care to explain why with yambo we don't pay the visa fee?

corvette · 04-27-2003, 10:34 AM

if you have any questions about CCBill, feel free to contact our sales team or myself

45471840
[email protected]

Cindyff · 04-27-2003, 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by sickkittens
For those that have your own pay sites. What are the pros and cons of ibill, ccbill , and some of the others? Which have setup fees? Which are free?

Any problems with certain ones?

Ask yourself one question are you ( FEELING LUCKY PUNK) ( sorry couldn't resist ) in this for the long run or are you just playing. If you want to make real $$$ and be here in 5 or even 10 years time then go with one or both of the top two processors Epoch (Paycom) or CCBill, As these guys are here for the long haul and your money will be safe. Don't use IBill even if they give you $2000 to sign up it will be the worst mistake you ever make. Decide if you are serious and spend the $750 eventually all non compliant companies will lose Visa and as they make up 80% plus of many sites sale you need them, at least for now.

Cindy xx

beemk · 04-27-2003, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by max.yambo
We charge setup fee just to avoid customers who just want to signup - this process takes a little time. That is not that big amount of money to be scared of I think if you really need a processing solution

ok, so its only fair to refund the $ after they start using it a lot... right?

assistant27 · 04-27-2003, 11:28 AM

oxbill.com and websitebilling.com are the best!!

inthestars · 04-27-2003, 08:08 PM

Use Verotel, see my signature.. no $750 signup fees involved!!

You have your choice of credit cards, checks, or 900 numbers (both USA and elsewhere in the world)..

BiggleJones · 04-27-2003, 08:09 PM

Epoch are really badass guys to work with.

StacyCat · 04-27-2003, 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by chupacabra

keep in mind that ccBill *refunds* the $750 VISA fine back to you over the course of a few pay periods... iBill does not..

CCBill is only doing the refunding for current customers, and those that sign up before May 1st. After that, no more refunds.

max.yambo · 04-28-2003, 01:04 AM

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But care to explain why with yambo we don't pay the visa
fee?

Rui,

Because we do not setup new merchant accounts for your businesses. We process transactions through our accounts. That's why you don't have to pay $750.

max.yambo · 04-28-2003, 01:23 AM

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ok, so its only fair to refund the $ after they start using it a lot... right?

beemk,

We can arrange that if necessary

Dawgy · 04-28-2003, 02:46 AM

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Originally posted by max.yambo
Because we do not setup new merchant accounts for your businesses. We process transactions through our accounts. That's why you don't have to pay $750.

isnt that what all other billers do unless u specifically ask for a merchant account?

max.yambo · 04-28-2003, 03:06 AM

Dawgy,

Yes you're right. But we don't setup that kind of merchant accounts like ibill does. If the client wants -- we can help with getting his own merchant account. But it's a little different from $750 accounts. It costs alot more.

04-26-2003, 10:45 AM	#1
sickkittens I am a meat popsicle. Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,100	starting a paysite... setting up w/ ibill, ccbill, pros? cons? For those that have your own pay sites. What are the pros and cons of ibill, ccbill , and some of the others? Which have setup fees? Which are free? Any problems with certain ones?

04-26-2003, 10:57 AM	#4
max.yambo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 218	sickkittens, contact me via icq. we charge $195 setup fee (you can pay after you start processing). you don't have to pay $750. our merchant discount rate is 8%. we payout each 10 days. thanks. __________________ <a href="http://www.yambo.biz"><img border="0" src="http://www.yambo.biz/public/gfy.yambo.gif"/></a> Max Bugaenko Yambo Financials Ltd. <b>ICQ 111225</b>

04-26-2003, 11:01 AM	#5
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Okay, CCBill etc. charge $750 for Visa, but other than that never charged a setup fee that I know of. So why in the world does Yambo charge $195? __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

04-26-2003, 11:05 AM	#6
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04-26-2003, 11:12 AM	#9
max.yambo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 218	We charge setup fee just to avoid customers who just want to signup - this process takes a little time. That is not that big amount of money to be scared of I think if you really need a processing solution __________________ <a href="http://www.yambo.biz"><img border="0" src="http://www.yambo.biz/public/gfy.yambo.gif"/></a> Max Bugaenko Yambo Financials Ltd. <b>ICQ 111225</b>

04-26-2003, 10:53 AM	#2
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	Ibill and CCBill have a $750 VISA fee. Not that big of a deal.

04-26-2003, 10:54 AM	#3
PatrickM Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 772	I can tell only good things about CCbill(eu) and GloBill. I am using both and their customer service is really great and checks arriving on time. I didn't have to pay any setup fees. No problems so far...

04-26-2003, 11:10 AM	#8
sickkittens I am a meat popsicle. Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,100	So CCBill and iBill are free if I only want to accept M/C & Discover?

04-26-2003, 11:20 AM	#12
max.yambo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 218	gothweb, Sure you would. Unless you're running a small paysite, right? __________________ <a href="http://www.yambo.biz"><img border="0" src="http://www.yambo.biz/public/gfy.yambo.gif"/></a> Max Bugaenko Yambo Financials Ltd. <b>ICQ 111225</b>

04-26-2003, 11:24 AM	#13
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04-26-2003, 11:26 AM	#14
max.yambo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 218	__________________ <a href="http://www.yambo.biz"><img border="0" src="http://www.yambo.biz/public/gfy.yambo.gif"/></a> Max Bugaenko Yambo Financials Ltd. <b>ICQ 111225</b>

04-26-2003, 11:45 AM	#16
max.yambo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 218	gothweb, I think ppl with small ones would go with no-setup processor, ppl with middle ones would go with ccbill, ibill, yambo or whatever and ppl with big ones would get their own merchant account where they would be charged like 4.5% __________________ <a href="http://www.yambo.biz"><img border="0" src="http://www.yambo.biz/public/gfy.yambo.gif"/></a> Max Bugaenko Yambo Financials Ltd. <b>ICQ 111225</b>

04-26-2003, 11:50 AM	#17
max.yambo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 218	Btw we can skip the setup fee if it really matters. Like I said - this fee is just to make sure the deal is serious. __________________ <a href="http://www.yambo.biz"><img border="0" src="http://www.yambo.biz/public/gfy.yambo.gif"/></a> Max Bugaenko Yambo Financials Ltd. <b>ICQ 111225</b>

04-26-2003, 12:51 PM	#18
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04-26-2003, 01:49 PM	#19
Hansm Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 871	Peeps, Yambo is the best, Im using them already for 5 months now and really i cant say anything more but they have EVERYTHING what a webmasters needs. I can accept paypal payments, i can accept creditcard, and western union and alot more. And they are offering nice support the whole day too. My point for yambo is a ten and for the rest a five, why? CCBill.: 750$ to accept visa IBill.: 750$ to accept visa PSWBilling.: Needs a european company anotherwise no visa i didt try out the rest (ACPay,Verotel and some more), but i like yambo and will continue to use yambo and yambo is offering a realtime interface and verify options for creditcards and alot more.

04-26-2003, 06:34 PM	#21
Hansm Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 871	Yambo is a offshore bank too, your funds will be there, you can order a maestro card for 20$ or a cirrus card for 20$ or a mastercard for 50$, nice options and offcourse wire transfer, western union, paypal, etc. you need to talk to max about the holdbacks and the rest, i think the are differnt per site dont know, but my holdback is 10% if you dont have a yambo account yet signup at http://www.yambo.biz?ref=65878 and use my refferer id if you want. just sign up at the above url and you will get access to a offshore bank account for free, no charges, there are only charges if you order something a debitcard, etc. im not spamming here but helping this guy so please dont say im spamming, i just want to earn 1 cent lol.

04-26-2003, 06:47 PM	#22
The Click Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,685	see sig - No VISA Fees. __________________ ICQ: 31-30-30

04-27-2003, 10:21 AM	#24
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	But care to explain why with yambo we don't pay the visa fee?

04-27-2003, 10:34 AM	#25
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04-27-2003, 11:28 AM	#28
assistant27 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 256	oxbill.com and websitebilling.com are the best!!

04-27-2003, 08:08 PM	#29
inthestars Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 2,021	Use Verotel, see my signature.. no $750 signup fees involved!! You have your choice of credit cards, checks, or 900 numbers (both USA and elsewhere in the world)..

04-27-2003, 08:09 PM	#30
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04-28-2003, 03:06 AM	#35
max.yambo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 218	Dawgy, Yes you're right. But we don't setup that kind of merchant accounts like ibill does. If the client wants -- we can help with getting his own merchant account. But it's a little different from $750 accounts. It costs alot more. __________________ <a href="http://www.yambo.biz"><img border="0" src="http://www.yambo.biz/public/gfy.yambo.gif"/></a> Max Bugaenko Yambo Financials Ltd. <b>ICQ 111225</b>