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  • crockett
    in a van by the river
    • May 2003
    • 76818

    #1

    Article about Russian troll farms from way before the election..

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/m...he-agency.html

    This is a very telling article and it uncovered the Russian troll propaganda farm way before it was used in our election. Russians were using hired troll armies to create fake news well before the US election of 2016.

    They were doing orchestrated and well planned attacks on social media claiming things like chemical plants which didnt exist had blown up or cases of ebola being spread in the US. Creating fake websites, videos and doctored photos to support their claims.

    In 2015 before the elections this troll army had a budget of over $400k a month. They went as far as to create videos and fake websites to push the fake news as in the case of the chemical plant explosion.

    They also infiltrated forums like this one (say hello onwebcam) creating users to spread propagranda just like we see here on GFY with all the alt right fake nicks and conspiracy nutters our mods here refuse to do anything about. They use both accounts which act as part of the community and the random fake accounts. They are doing it on a massive scale all across the web.

    Its a very damning article that now sheads much more light as its read today in hindsight. Again, this article was from 2015 before the Russian trolls were widely known about or before they were ramped up to attack our election process and other countries..

    Seriously mods, do the right thing and start banning all these fake nicks.. When all they are doing is pushing Russian propaganda and racist hate, its obvious they are part of all this. Its the same exact MO that happens here just like it happens on facebook and twitter.. its the same people being paid to disrupt this place.
    In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.
  • Barry-xlovecam
    It's 42
    • Jun 2010
    • 18083

    #2
    Frams?

    Typo

    The CIA probably does the same shit -- it's all a fuckin' game

    Every intelligence agency does this shit.

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    • Bladewire
      StraightBro
      • Aug 2003
      • 56228

      #3
      Originally posted by crockett
      https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/m...he-agency.html

      This is a very telling article and it uncovered the Russian troll propaganda farm way before it was used in our election. Russians were using hired troll armies to create fake news well before the US election of 2016.

      They were doing orchestrated and well planned attacks on social media claiming things like chemical plants which didnt exist had blown up or cases of ebola being spread in the US. Creating fake websites, videos and doctored photos to support their claims.

      In 2015 before the elections this troll army had a budget of over $400k a month. They went as far as to create videos and fake websites to push the fake news as in the case of the chemical plant explosion.

      They also infiltrated forums like this one (say hello onwebcam) creating users to spread propagranda just like we see here on GFY with all the alt right fake nicks and conspiracy nutters our mods here refuse to do anything about. They use both accounts which act as part of the community and the random fake accounts. They are doing it on a massive scale all across the web.

      Its a very damning article that now sheads much more light as its read today in hindsight. Again, this article was from 2015 before the Russian trolls were widely known about or before they were ramped up to attack our election process and other countries..

      Seriously mods, do the right thing and start banning all these fake nicks.. When all they are doing is pushing Russian propaganda and racist hate, its obvious they are part of all this. Its the same exact MO that happens here just like it happens on facebook and twitter.. its the same people being paid to disrupt this place.
      Not only are they solely here to spread anti American propoganda & conspiracies, but they're corrosive to the identity of the community and drive authentic users away with their hate and gorilla gang up tactics on members that out them.

      It's clear that AVN Media Networks Inc. & Eric have no issue with the influx of fake alt-right propoganda & conspiracy nics. Forums change over time but it seems GFY died the same year as Hugh Hefner and it seems fitting, almost poetic.


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      • crockett
        in a van by the river
        • May 2003
        • 76818

        #4
        Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
        Frams?

        Typo

        The CIA probably does the same shit -- it's all a fuckin' game

        Every intelligence agency does this shit.
        Im sure the CIA does the same shit, but we can obviously identify these accouts and they should be banned. Do you think Russian forums would let American fake nicks run amok trashing their society, spreading lies and propaganda? No theyd ban the fuck out of them..
        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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        • klinton
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2003
          • 8766

          #5
          Originally posted by crockett
          Im sure the CIA does the same shit, but we can obviously identify these accouts and they should be banned. Do you think Russian forums would let American fake nicks run amok trashing their society, spreading lies and propaganda? No theyd ban the fuck out of them..
          not CIA, but NSA & GHCQ :-)

          as for the Russian trolls... - well just read Mitrokhin Archive, take a look who is in power now in Russia and get an idea...so simple !
          KGB always loved disinformation ("USA invented AIDS" is one of such examples), lies, semilies, and disinformation.

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          • Bladewire
            StraightBro
            • Aug 2003
            • 56228

            #6
            Originally posted by klinton
            KGB always loved disinformation ("USA invented AIDS" is one of such examples), lies, semilies, and disinformation.
            Yes they like disinformation because it causes confusion, muddies up the waters making society weaker by being off message.


            Skype: CallTomNow

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            • klinton
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2003
              • 8766

              #7
              Originally posted by Bladewire
              Yes they like disinformation because it causes confusion, muddies up the waters making society weaker by being off message.
              exactly

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              • Boozer
                So Fucking Banned
                • Feb 2005
                • 3134

                #8
                Originally posted by Bladewire
                Not only are they solely here to spread anti American propoganda & conspiracies, but they're corrosive to the identity of the community and drive authentic users away with their hate and gorilla gang up tactics on members that out them.

                It's clear that AVN Media Networks Inc. & Eric have no issue with the influx of fake alt-right propoganda & conspiracy nics. Forums change over time but it seems GFY died the same year as Hugh Hefner and it seems fitting, almost poetic.
                Do you ever stop fucking whining?

                Every damn day you talk shit about GFY, and yet you come right back.

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                • Sarn
                  WW3
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 12405

                  #9
                  give up

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                  • crockett
                    in a van by the river
                    • May 2003
                    • 76818

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sarn
                    give up

                    I don't mind you openly gay, I mean Russians... it's the ones here trying to pretend to be American while spreading nothing but Russian propaganda...

                    If you are openly from country x and talking shit, it's one thing. It's another doing it while trying to pretend they are from the country they talk shit about.
                    In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                    • RedFred
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 9782

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Boozer
                      Do you ever stop fucking whining?

                      Every damn day you talk shit about GFY, and yet you come right back.

                      Has stalking gay men on the internet always been your thing?

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                      • Boozer
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 3134

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RedFred
                        Has stalking gay men on the internet always been your thing?
                        Just when it comes to you Bladewire.

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                        • mineistaken
                          See signature :)
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 29656

                          #13
                          Originally posted by crockett
                          I don't mind you openly gay, I mean Russians... it's the ones here trying to pretend to be American while spreading nothing but Russian propaganda...

                          If you are openly from country x and talking shit, it's one thing. It's another doing it while trying to pretend they are from the country they talk shit about.
                          There is not a single known Russian forum member pretending to be an American.

                          Or list your list and we will laugh at your analyst skills

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                          • Sarn
                            WW3
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 12405

                            #14
                            Originally posted by crockett
                            I don't mind you openly gay, I mean Russians... it's the ones here trying to pretend to be American while spreading nothing but Russian propaganda...

                            If you are openly from country x and talking shit, it's one thing. It's another doing it while trying to pretend they are from the country they talk shit about.
                            crockett going to attack i mean it is better than crying)
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                            • Rochard
                              Jägermeister Test Pilot
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 75733

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                              The CIA probably does the same shit -- it's all a fuckin' game
                              Without a doubt the CIA has been influencing foreign elections for decades, long before the Internet became popular. Doing this in a small country is one thing (and bad enough), but doing it to a large modern country.... That's another story.

                              At what point in time does this become an act of war?
                              Herschel Savage
                              Brooklyn, NY

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                              • just a punk
                                So fuckin' bored
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 32393

                                #16
                                Russia definitely has troll farms and everybody knows the addresses of their offices (I'm absolutely serious now), but how a bunch of paid Internet shitters can affect the US presidential elections? Most of those dudes don't even speak English.

                                Obey the Cowgod

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                                • Sarn
                                  WW3
                                  • Sep 2015
                                  • 12405

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                  At what point in time does this become an act of war?
                                  When starting laugh
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                                  • Sarn
                                    WW3
                                    • Sep 2015
                                    • 12405

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Rochard
                                    but doing it to a large modern country.... That's another story.
                                    ))
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                                    • Matt 26z
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2002
                                      • 18481

                                      #19
                                      I'd be more concerned about troll armies closer to home.

                                      Correct The Record

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                                      • Major (Tom)
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 32492

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                        Frams?

                                        Typo

                                        The CIA probably does the same shit -- it's all a fuckin' game

                                        Every intelligence agency does this shit.

                                        Does....

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                                        • klinton
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Apr 2003
                                          • 8766

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Sarn
                                          ))
                                          1,2,3 SARN ACTIVATED !!!!



                                          "COMRADES, IT'S NOT ME !! DON'T SHOOT !!! i'M A GREAT POET MAYAKOVSKY !!!

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                                          • klinton
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Apr 2003
                                            • 8766

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                            Russia definitely has troll farms and everybody knows the addresses of their offices (I'm absolutely serious now), but how a bunch of paid Internet shitters can affect the US presidential elections? Most of those dudes don't even speak English.

                                            heheh I wouldn't underestimate them so much
                                            not everyone is like Sarn (ha ha ha)... They prolly have more skilled influencers too...

                                            Also, sometimes it only takes to post some links,images &videos of Alex Jones type of shit and western retards will start drooling and get manipulated easily

                                            they dont have to influence Harvard proffesors, they need to influence average Joes and already-retards that AIN'T hard ! some funny meme, some catchy image here and there and the people will start to influence themselves, sharing it among each other lol..
                                            ah, the beauty of the Internet, on Russian satellites and rockets of course (or should I say - "Sputniks" ??)

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                                            • crockett
                                              in a van by the river
                                              • May 2003
                                              • 76818

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by mineistaken
                                              There is not a single known Russian forum member pretending to be an American.

                                              Or list your list and we will laugh at your analyst skills
                                              Ahh look a Canadian who pretends he's American..Your name isnt Boris by chance?
                                              In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                              • crockett
                                                in a van by the river
                                                • May 2003
                                                • 76818

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Rochard
                                                Without a doubt the CIA has been influencing foreign elections for decades, long before the Internet became popular. Doing this in a small country is one thing (and bad enough), but doing it to a large modern country.... That's another story.

                                                At what point in time does this become an act of war?
                                                Its all part of the game, but allowing them to run amok unchallenged is the problem..
                                                In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                • klinton
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 8766

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by crockett
                                                  Ahh look a Canadian who pretends he's American..Your name isnt Boris by chance?
                                                  he is not Slovak ?

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                                                  • Bladewire
                                                    StraightBro
                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                    • 56228

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by klinton
                                                    he is not Slovak ?
                                                    Yeah Mineistsken / Matt 26z / etc. is a Slovakian troll


                                                    Skype: CallTomNow

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                                                    • just a punk
                                                      So fuckin' bored
                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                      • 32393

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by crockett
                                                      Ahh look a Canadian who pretends he's American..Your name isnt Boris by chance?
                                                      So Canada is not in America anymore?

                                                      Obey the Cowgod

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                                                      • klinton
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                        • 8766

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                        So Canada is not in America anymore?

                                                        do you know SINGLE WORD in English that refers to the citizen of United States - instead of "American" ?
                                                        I never heard about such word

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                                                        • Sarn
                                                          WW3
                                                          • Sep 2015
                                                          • 12405

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by klinton
                                                          1,2,3 SARN ACTIVATED !!!!

                                                          "COMRADES, IT'S NOT ME !! DON'T SHOOT !!! i'M A GREAT POET MAYAKOVSKY !!!


                                                          Originally posted by klinton
                                                          heheh I wouldn't underestimate them so much
                                                          not everyone is like Sarn (ha ha ha)... They prolly have more skilled influencers too...
                                                          You have Paranoia

                                                          Paranoia is an instinct or thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of delusion and irrationality. Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory, or beliefs of conspiracy concerning a perceived threat towards oneself (e.g. "Everyone is out to get me", which is an American parochial phrase). Paranoia is distinct from phobias, which also involve irrational fear, but usually no blame. Making false accusations and the general distrust of others also frequently accompany paranoia. For example, an incident most people would view as an accident or coincidence, a paranoid person might believe was intentional. Paranoia is a central symptom of psychosis. It is also a matter of personal tolerance for the individual that might be in conflict with psychiatric diagnoses.
                                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia
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                                                          • bns666
                                                            Confirmed Fetishist
                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                            • 11554

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                            Every intelligence agency does this shit.
                                                            qft ......
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                                                            • klinton
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                              • 8766

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Sarn
                                                              You have Paranoia. Dr Lysenko may confirm that and I agree with the doctor.


                                                              now look there comrade, before Snowden, everyone who was saying the same was also "paranoic"......I read too many historical books to not understand many proccesses than go on and repeat since centuries in this world

                                                              btw. Warka Strong is a shitty beer

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                                                              • Sarn
                                                                WW3
                                                                • Sep 2015
                                                                • 12405

                                                                #32
                                                                You have Paranoia. Dr Lysenko may confirm that and I agree with the doctor.

                                                                Originally posted by klinton

                                                                now look there comrade, before Snowden, everyone who was saying the same was also "paranoic"......I read too many historical books to not understand many proccesses than go on and repeat since centuries in this world
                                                                Before Snowden all know that world going into totalitarianism with total control over peoples. Demoralisation stage
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                                                                • klinton
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 8766

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Sarn


                                                                  Before Snowden all know that world going into totalitarianism with total control over peoples. Demoralisation stage
                                                                  DEMORALIZATION STAGE ??????

                                                                  COMRADE !!!

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                                                                  • Sarn
                                                                    WW3
                                                                    • Sep 2015
                                                                    • 12405

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by klinton
                                                                    DEMORALIZATION STAGE ??????
                                                                    COMRADE !!!
                                                                    the biggest problem they have because USA society has many guns
                                                                    In EUssr one big Politburo in Brussel only not enough army, still not))

                                                                    'The S-word': how young Americans fell in love with socialism
                                                                    Young Americans blame capitalism for crises in housing, healthcare and falling wages. Once demonised, the word ?socialism? is back as a new political movement takes root
                                                                    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...bernie-sanders

                                                                    Why young Americans are giving up on capitalism
                                                                    Why young Americans are giving up on capitalism - Business Insider
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                                                                    • klinton
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                      • 8766

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Sarn
                                                                      Why young Americans are giving up on capitalism
                                                                      Why young Americans are giving up on capitalism - Business Insider
                                                                      Yes I know that, but it's not a capitalism in a system where big banks get bailed out of what they did and have no responsability of it. Its not true capitalism, its a crooked oligarchy.

                                                                      True capitalism would be to let these banks die, let the financial system collapse and let those banksters be hanged on the trees
                                                                      "to build something new...
                                                                      something with a red star !!!" (hue hue hue)

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                                                                      • Sarn
                                                                        WW3
                                                                        • Sep 2015
                                                                        • 12405

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by klinton
                                                                        something with a red star !!!" (hue hue hue)
                                                                        Agro-communism in campuses with net's on windows
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                                                                        • Sarn
                                                                          WW3
                                                                          • Sep 2015
                                                                          • 12405

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by klinton
                                                                          Yes I know that, but it's not a capitalism in a system where big banks get bailed out of what they did and have no responsability of it. Its not true capitalism, its a crooked oligarchy.
                                                                          it as in porn)) monopolisation industry
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                                                                          • klinton
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                                            • 8766

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Sarn
                                                                            Agro-communism in campuses with net's on windows
                                                                            yeah....
                                                                            We both know that I'm using that Bezmenov guy as an example of not to show that communists want to conquer capitalists, but to show how KGB and these days Russian propaganda and disinformation works. And since now KGB rulez Russia, this is the same shit basically

                                                                            also, if you look into Snowden's trove of documents , you will see that similar things (army of trolls, hacks here and there, manipulating polls, public opinion and so on) is done by British and US...Yet, Russians somehow mastered their techniques, prolly because of decades of experience during Soviet times

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                                                                            • klinton
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                              • 8766

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Sarn
                                                                              it as in porn)) monopolisation industry
                                                                              no money in porn for small fish

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                                                                              • Sarn
                                                                                WW3
                                                                                • Sep 2015
                                                                                • 12405

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                yeah....
                                                                                We both know that I'm using that Bezmenov guy as an example of not to show that communists want to conquer capitalists, but to show how KGB and these days Russian propaganda and disinformation works. And since now KGB rulez Russia, this is the same shit basically
                                                                                CIA did the same thing too. but yes use Bezmenov like propaganda against KGB.
                                                                                Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                also, if you look into Snowden's trove of documents , you will see that similar things (army of trolls, hacks here and there, manipulating polls, public opinion and so on) is done by British and US...Yet, Russians somehow mastered their techniques, prolly because of decades of experience during Soviet times
                                                                                Snowden - yes this famous Russian hacker
                                                                                Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                no money in porn for small fish
                                                                                it is just for real example. if people start like socialism in USA than yes. now you understand why communism was popular)) it was attempted to build the more fair society. poor little piranhas

                                                                                "Monopolisation refers to attempts by a dominant firm or group of relatively large firms to maintain or increase market control through various anti-competitive practices such as predatory pricing, pre-emption of facilities, and foreclosure of competition."
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                                                                                • klinton
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                  • 8766

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Sarn
                                                                                  if people start like socialism in USA than yes. now you understand why communism was popular)) it was attempted to build the more fair society
                                                                                  yes, communism made all people equal... equally poor

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                                                                                  • klinton
                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                    • 8766

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Sarn
                                                                                    CIA did the same thing too. but yes use Bezmenov like propaganda against KGB.
                                                                                    not really. only plural and democratic societies are fragile for subversion, disinformation and other KGB tactics. These tactics EVEN IF USED BY CIA wouldnt work in countries like USSR or North Korea

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                                                                                    • crockett
                                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                      • 76818

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                                      So Canada is not in America anymore?

                                                                                      Dont be dumb, you know what I meant. American is exclusively a term used for citizen of the USA. North American would be the term you are after..
                                                                                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                      • crockett
                                                                                        in a van by the river
                                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                                        • 76818

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                        not really. only plural and democratic societies are fragile for subversion, disinformation and other KGB tactics. These tactics EVEN IF USED BY CIA wouldnt work in countries like USSR or North Korea
                                                                                        Yes its hard for the CIA to rig a Russian election by influence of Russian voters, because the election is rigged before they vote. We would have to rig the ballots after Putin did it..
                                                                                        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                        • Sarn
                                                                                          WW3
                                                                                          • Sep 2015
                                                                                          • 12405

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                          yes, communism made all people equal... equally poor
                                                                                          it was reason of fail communism but it does not solve a problem of capitalism.
                                                                                          Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                          not really. only plural and democratic societies are fragile for subversion, disinformation and other KGB tactics. These tactics EVEN IF USED BY CIA wouldnt work in countries like USSR or North Korea
                                                                                          censorship not work you can see it on USSR example. this troll farm does not work too.
                                                                                          Only the positive agenda works.
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                                                                                          • oppoten
                                                                                            NAME THE JEW
                                                                                            • Nov 2007
                                                                                            • 4793

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I think that the Russophobic posters should be banned

                                                                                            You wouldn't be saying this stuff if Russians were black.

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                                                                                            • klinton
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                              • 8766

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                              Yes its hard for the CIA to rig a Russian election by influence of Russian voters, because the election is rigged before they vote. We would have to rig the ballots after Putin did it..
                                                                                              hahahah

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                                                                                              • klinton
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                                • 8766

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Sarn
                                                                                                Only the positive agenda works.
                                                                                                comrade, I like your style !!1:

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                                                                                                • Sarn
                                                                                                  WW3
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                                                                                                  • 12405

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                                  comrade, I like your style !!1:
                                                                                                  moral stimulation of work does not work too ))
                                                                                                  communist never pay more than for physiological need for continue work
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                                                                                                  • onwebcam
                                                                                                    Fake Nick 1.0
                                                                                                    • Oct 2005
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    This must be what gave Clinton the idea to use them
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