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  • Frank21
    Confirmed User
    • May 2009
    • 733

    #1

    worth going back into adult after a 10 year break?

    Are there still any possibilities for a hobby wemaster with 15 year old adult webmaster skills?

    tube content? amateur POV content? linkfarms free tubes?


    BTW. go fuck yourself.
  • lock
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 5065

    #2
    If your still prepared to go all out with the right niche but I wouldn't be trying it with general.
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    • SpicyM
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      • Aug 2006
      • 4575

      #3
      Do you have money to invest? Starting in adult without any cash is impossible these days.
      no sig, sorry

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      • RazorSharpe
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2001
        • 2238

        #4
        Originally posted by SpicyM
        Do you have money to invest? Starting in adult without any cash is impossible these days.
        He can always buy Markham's entire content library for like 20 bucks.
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        • femdomdestiny
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2007
          • 5182

          #5
          Originally posted by Frank21
          Are there still any possibilities for a hobby wemaster with 15 year old adult webmaster skills?

          tube content? amateur POV content? linkfarms free tubes?


          BTW. go fuck yourself.
          Of course, there it is, especially if you already have experience.
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          • rayadp05
            TRUEAMATEURMODELS.COM
            • Nov 2005
            • 4187

            #6
            I'm making it after 13 long years ....and the sales are still continuing to roll in for my paysite. Takes a lot of time, work and updating.
            Cannot speak for everybody else, but that's my situation.

            So if you ask me ..... go for it!

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            • Rochard
              Jägermeister Test Pilot
              • Dec 2001
              • 75733

              #7
              It's not as easy as it was ten years ago. It's a lot more work and a lot less money to make.
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              • SpicyM
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2006
                • 4575

                #8
                Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                He can always buy Markham's entire content library for like 20 bucks.

                And that content will make him money?
                no sig, sorry

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                • SpicyM
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 4575

                  #9
                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                  I'm making it after 13 long years ....and the sales are still continuing to roll in for my paysite. Takes a lot of time, work and updating.
                  Cannot speak for everybody else, but that's my situation.

                  So if you ask me ..... go for it!

                  If you love shooting naked girls and know how to do that than it's a different game for sure.
                  no sig, sorry

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                  • plsureking
                    bored
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 4904

                    #10
                    yea i wouldn't bother going into affiliate marketing. too many cheats and tough conversion rates. you have to shoot or buy exclusive content. most of the guy's surviving the paysite game are shooting their own content.

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                    • CaptainHowdy
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 94730

                      #11
                      Yes, if you want to feel the difference ...

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                      • desmoines
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 948

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Frank21
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                        not anymore




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                        • Spunky
                          I need a beer
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 133986

                          #13
                          It will never work

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                          • selena
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 7995

                            #14
                            Are you *the* Frank?
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                            • TheDynasty
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                              • Apr 2016
                              • 5882

                              #15
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                              • Paul Markham
                                Too old to care
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 52942

                                #16
                                Experienced people are dropping out, what does that tell you?



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                                • Tjeezers
                                  Webmaster
                                  • Mar 2007
                                  • 16602

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                  Experienced people are dropping out, what does that tell you?
                                  That you are an amateur?

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                                  • James_w
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2012
                                    • 264

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                    He can always buy Markham's entire content library for like 20 bucks.
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                                    • ruff
                                      I have a plan B
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 5507

                                      #19
                                      There is no money in porn. Buy Bitcoin instead.
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                                      • thommy
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                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 5469

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Tjeezers_Brokerbabe
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                                        • yuu.design
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Mar 2006
                                          • 25924

                                          #21
                                          yeah, why not?
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                                          • celandina
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jun 2006
                                            • 11721

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                            Experienced people are dropping out, what does that tell you?

                                            Correct.. Dropping of heart attacks, strokes, diabetes etc..... what does it tells me??? The good life killed them

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                                            • GAMEFINEST
                                              Make STACK$
                                              • Nov 2006
                                              • 14478

                                              #23
                                              Paul stll watching porn on dvds
                                              Compound interest.

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                                              • mce
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jun 2012
                                                • 3915

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                                He can always buy Markham's entire content library for like 20 bucks.

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                                                • mce
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2012
                                                  • 3915

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ruff
                                                  There is no money in porn. Buy Bitcoin instead.
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                                                  • plsureking
                                                    bored
                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                    • 4904

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                    Experienced people are dropping out, what does that tell you?
                                                    i'm seeing the opposite. many industry veterans are coming back. i think we'll see a resurgence and domination of paysites in 2018.

                                                    my speculation is mainly based on the aging of gen-x. old people have always been the top buyers of paysite subs. now my generation is old lol

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                                                    • tobedeleted
                                                      Pay Per Minute Products
                                                      • Nov 2015
                                                      • 299

                                                      #27
                                                      There's money, but it has to be interactive. I'm sure old-school style pay sites still sell, but a lot of those are customers being rebilled without even knowing. Not saying it can't work, but when was the last time you paid for porn?

                                                      Now there IS money in mainstream. I always thought the money (and fun) was mostly in adult, but I have found more potential in non-adult. Plus with social media being a big factor it is a pain in the ass to promote adult, while mainstream is easy.

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                                                      • tobedeleted
                                                        Pay Per Minute Products
                                                        • Nov 2015
                                                        • 299

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by plsureking
                                                        i'm seeing the opposite. many industry veterans are coming back. i think we'll see a resurgence and domination of paysites in 2018.
                                                        I think this may be true - man I hope it is.

                                                        Because with so many people dropping out there will eventually be a void in new content.

                                                        The truth is that adult webmasters killed their own market. How? Well it started with so much free affiliate marketing content that users couldn't even keep up with everything.

                                                        This grew to the point of being ridiculous, because once the content is online it is there forever. Of course the tubes was the nail in the coffin.

                                                        There were a few webmasters and services trying to require payment to access promotional affiliate content - that should have been implemented IMO.

                                                        But with so many webmasters out it might just open a new avenue for demand.

                                                        This is just a hope though... From what I can tell younger generations won't pay for anything.

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                                                        • plsureking
                                                          bored
                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 4904

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by sincats
                                                          when was the last time you paid for porn?
                                                          all the time. if you aren't a consumer, you shouldn't be selling it.

                                                          the entire market is not broke degenerates looking for free porn. there are millions of paying consumers with good jobs and money. if you don't know that, you aren't selling paysite porn and/or you don't have access to daily paysite stats.

                                                          i have one monitor in my office that just shows stats and there's new paysite sales nearly every minute on our cms network.



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                                                          • fuzebox
                                                            making it rain
                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                            • 22351

                                                            #30
                                                            Nope. Not worth it.

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                                                            • Frank21
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2009
                                                              • 733

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                                              He can always buy Markham's entire content library for like 20 bucks.
                                                              now thats the kind of deals i like to make.
                                                              Where do i download tose vids?

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                                                              • Frank21
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2009
                                                                • 733

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by selena
                                                                Are you *the* Frank?
                                                                Yes i am. the real Frank.
                                                                Do you want a signature?

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                                                                • XSAXS
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                  • 652

                                                                  #33
                                                                  No money in porn.
                                                                  Except the checks still keep coming.
                                                                  Go figure.

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                                                                  • Denny
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                    • 17393

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Probably not, it also depens on why you stopped before... generally it's harder to make $$$ in porn than 10 years ago, you work harder and make less, ok, you can work smarter and make more but it's easy to say, harder to do... some investments will probably be necessary too...

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                                                                    • plsureking
                                                                      bored
                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                      • 4904

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by XSAXS
                                                                      No money in porn.
                                                                      Except the checks still keep coming.
                                                                      Go figure.


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                                                                      • selena
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                        • 7995

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Frank21
                                                                        Yes i am. the real Frank.
                                                                        Do you want a signature?
                                                                        Yes, please.
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                                                                        • monica
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                          • 220

                                                                          #37
                                                                          After seven years, I was blown away to find this place still rockin'... and I had the same question in my mind. I've always assumed it takes a massive $$/time investment to crack into the industry these days.
                                                                          monica AT monicaweb DOT net

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                                                                          • plsureking
                                                                            bored
                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                            • 4904

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by monica
                                                                            After seven years, I was blown away to find this place still rockin'... and I had the same question in my mind. I've always assumed it takes a massive $$/time investment to crack into the industry these days.
                                                                            are you back to doing reviews? they are still the best converting traffic source, yet most of the review sites are on auto-pilot now.

                                                                            the gold rush is long over, the tube crash is over too. its just a job now, but its a fun one.

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                                                                            • INever
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jan 2005
                                                                              • 4031

                                                                              #39
                                                                              I also have a idea for something "new and current" that might "resonate".

                                                                              If you have a unique idea, give it a go...
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                                                                              • VamosNicholas
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Oct 2012
                                                                                • 181

                                                                                #40
                                                                                I've been considering the same thing, although I was only ever a small time affiliate really. Have more programming/web development skills now, but I don't really think it's enough to get back into things.

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                                                                                • brassmonkey
                                                                                  Pay It Forward
                                                                                  • Sep 2005
                                                                                  • 77396

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  just add into it sponsors are ripping people off
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                                                                                  • NatalieK
                                                                                    Natalie K
                                                                                    • Apr 2010
                                                                                    • 20106

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    of course there´s still money to be made. Doing it right, filming something a little different and interacting with your members, maybe like me, filming customs inc. in your membership passes, there´s much money to be made.

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                                                                                    • blindcat
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                                                                                      • Oct 2016
                                                                                      • 174

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Bump for "the" Frank lol
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                                                                                      • ErectMedia
                                                                                        Confirmed Chicago Pimp
                                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                                        • 7100

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                                                                        He can always buy Markham's entire content library for like 20 bucks.


                                                                                        He includes the Magic Join Link generator reason he's been able to sell the same content for 100 years it converts.

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                                                                                        • monica
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                          • 220

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                          are you back to doing reviews? they are still the best converting traffic source, yet most of the review sites are on auto-pilot now.

                                                                                          the gold rush is long over, the tube crash is over too. its just a job now, but its a fun one.

                                                                                          #porncms

                                                                                          Oh ho... no. I just found my old GFY login and thought I'd take a look just for kicks. I didn't mean to drive by like that but forgot to log in again... Thanks for the reply to my post.

                                                                                          I'm amazed they still convert. So crazy!
                                                                                          monica AT monicaweb DOT net

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                                                                                          • The Porn Nerd
                                                                                            Living The Dream
                                                                                            • Jun 2009
                                                                                            • 19787

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by monica
                                                                                            Oh ho... no. I just found my old GFY login and thought I'd take a look just for kicks. I didn't mean to drive by like that but forgot to log in again... Thanks for the reply to my post.

                                                                                            I'm amazed they still convert. So crazy!
                                                                                            Please write some more reviews!
                                                                                            Or, send me a PM here and let's discuss a merger or buyout.
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                                                                                            • dillfly2000
                                                                                              hey
                                                                                              • Mar 2012
                                                                                              • 2209

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I'm still getting deposits from places I don't remember promoting. I choose not to question it.
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                                                                                              • emmasexytime
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                                                                                                • Jan 2015
                                                                                                • 4512

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by dillfly2000
                                                                                                I'm still getting deposits from places I don't remember promoting. I choose not to question it.


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                                                                                                • Diomed
                                                                                                  Converting like it's 1999
                                                                                                  • Jan 2009
                                                                                                  • 6167

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I don't understand people who don't understand how much opportunity has arisen from the consolidation of all of this traffic into so few outlets.

                                                                                                  Paid traffic requires up front investment, but it's oh so scalable once you have a margin you are happy with ;)
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                                                                                                  • thommy
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                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                    • 5469

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Diomed
                                                                                                    I don't understand people who don't understand how much opportunity has arisen from the consolidation of all of this traffic into so few outlets.

                                                                                                    Paid traffic requires up front investment, but it's oh so scalable once you have a margin you are happy with ;)
                                                                                                    100% agree !
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