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SpicyM 10-27-2017 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22052091)
Who said he fucked them in their ass?

Rochard meant the case if he himself would become a male prostitute..
According to his post, he would be ok with that + seems he would prefer offering his ass to giving BJs :winkwink:

PR_Glen 10-27-2017 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22051471)
Unfortunately that is only sexist when something is against female gender. against male gender it is ok. As per SJW libby double standard.

so what you mean is that you have been raped or sexually harassed by women in the past and were unable to defend yourself? I have your back man, no worries! that is terrible, maybe join a gym or something? take some martial arts? You can always travel with a buddy or maybe not dress so sexy next time?

We will not stand silent while mineistaken is repeatedly being abused and sexually harassed! Now is the time to take a stand!

starling 10-27-2017 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22052507)
so what you mean is that you have been raped or sexually harassed by women in the past and were unable to defend yourself? I have your back man, no worries! that is terrible, maybe join a gym or something? take some martial arts? You can always travel with a buddy or maybe not dress so sexy next time?

We will not stand silent while mineistaken is repeatedly being abused and sexually harassed! Now is the time to take a stand!

Dudes can rape each other nowadays imagine that!

mineistaken 10-27-2017 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22052507)
so what you mean is that you have been raped or sexually harassed by women in the past and were unable to defend yourself? I have your back man, no worries! that is terrible, maybe join a gym or something? take some martial arts? You can always travel with a buddy or maybe not dress so sexy next time?

We will not stand silent while mineistaken is repeatedly being abused and sexually harassed! Now is the time to take a stand!

No, I already explained that I did not mean it in sexual way (as there we can do an exception because of what you and spicem mentioned).
I was speaking n general.
For example make an advert of woman cooking in the kitchen and get yelled "dass sexiss". Make same add with man doing stereotypical man thing and same people won't shout "dass sexiss".

SpicyM 10-27-2017 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22052507)
so what you mean is that you have been raped or sexually harassed by women in the past and were unable to defend yourself? I have your back man, no worries! that is terrible, maybe join a gym or something? take some martial arts? You can always travel with a buddy or maybe not dress so sexy next time?

We will not stand silent while mineistaken is repeatedly being abused and sexually harassed! Now is the time to take a stand!

Wait.. aren't these double standards and discrimination libbys always talk about?? :disgust

I have seen women who were over 185 cm tall and weighted over 90kg, working as security guards. You call that a female, I call that a butch. Don't tell me these would have a hard time to grab a skinny male who is 175 cm tall with 73 kg and kick his ass. :winkwink: Not every male is a fat ass like you. :1orglaugh

mineistaken 10-27-2017 01:48 PM

And sexual harassment and rape is not sexism.

Sexism is prejudice or discrimination based on sex. Not sexual harassment or rape.

I was talking about sexism double standards, not about sexual harassment (where obviously women are the weaker side).

NatalieMojoHost 10-27-2017 02:26 PM

Uhm, Hi Paul... I'm Natalie... uhm.

Lots of men decided to post in your "question for women" thread. Not even sure if a females' posts are necessary at this point.

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22052519)
No, I already explained that I did not mean it in sexual way (as there we can do an exception because of what you and spicem mentioned).
I was speaking n general.
For example make an advert of woman cooking in the kitchen and get yelled "dass sexiss". Make same add with man doing stereotypical man thing and same people won't shout "dass sexiss".

For one, rape may happen to any person, female or male. It's funny how some men seem to deny it... there is nothing wrong with admitting it, seriously. I'm sure there are persons out there who you wouldn't want to have sex with and if someone drugged you or tied you up and went at it this would be called rape.

SpicyM 10-27-2017 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NatalieMojoHost (Post 22052561)
For one, rape may happen to any person, female or male. It's funny how some men seem to deny it... there is nothing wrong with admitting it, seriously. I'm sure there are persons out there who you wouldn't want to have sex with and if someone drugged you or tied you up and went at it this would be called rape.


If we talk about law, then rape can only be commited on a female here.. However, our penal code contains another article regarding sexual violence, which can be commited on both sexes, though the possible penalties are not that high in this case.

BTW, being drunk does not release you from liability, so if a girl is drunk and she agrees with sex, that is not considered rape. And this way it is 100% right IMO. Drinking and getting drunk is every person's own responsibility, so fuck those bitches who get drunk, agree with sex and then claim they were raped .. load of crap :2 cents:

CourtneyR 10-27-2017 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22051505)
you complete asshole, no reason for this Markham!

Why mention me when thereīs many escorts & models on this forum, if not half the models have escorted...

and besides, most models would take a job fucking guys on set for less than I receive :disgust



and no offence, but I donīt believe you...

if someone opened a briefcase with 100grand in cash, asking to wine and dine you, go back to the hotel and relax for the night, I do not believe you wouldnīt sleep especially with a career worth 10mill later too!

I have no desire to be famous with millions of dollars. While extra money in the bank is nice, hard work is more satisfying.

NatalieK 10-27-2017 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN (Post 22052651)
I have no desire to be famous with millions of dollars. While extra money in the bank is nice, hard work is more satisfying.

well fair enough if this is really a true feeling from you, I suppose, until that big suitcase is opened...


In our life, sex is fun, tbh, in the past, enjoying swingers parties, I do not understand what the problem would be to enjoy some sex for a big amount of money.


Of course, the fact that Paul needed to label me in this thread is still beyond me, when I know every one of the webmasters promote films where the model worked for, letīs say less than a grand to fuck the guy, and tbh, many of the films, especially POV, the film cost the director less than 200 for the girl to fuck the guy :2 cents:

Dead 10-28-2017 08:43 AM

Courtney has standards, you do not. Its OK to not get this......

Dead 10-28-2017 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NatalieMojoHost (Post 22052561)
Uhm, Hi Paul... I'm Natalie... uhm.

Lots of men decided to post in your "question for women" thread. Not even sure if a females' posts are necessary at this point.



For one, rape may happen to any person, female or male. It's funny how some men seem to deny it... there is nothing wrong with admitting it, seriously. I'm sure there are persons out there who you wouldn't want to have sex with and if someone drugged you or tied you up and went at it this would be called rape.

Oh to be raped by a women would be fitting for some of these guys :1orglaugh #paulstrapped

Paul Markham 10-29-2017 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22052443)
If she agrees it is both prostitution and harassment.

But she's happy to take the money for the part.

Paul Markham 10-29-2017 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22052489)
Rochard meant the case if he himself would become a male prostitute..
According to his post, he would be ok with that + seems he would prefer offering his ass to giving BJs :winkwink:

I'm sure you have your price.

Paul Markham 10-29-2017 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22052507)
so what you mean is that you have been raped or sexually harassed by women in the past and were unable to defend yourself? I have your back man, no worries! that is terrible, maybe join a gym or something? take some martial arts? You can always travel with a buddy or maybe not dress so sexy next time?

We will not stand silent while mineistaken is repeatedly being abused and sexually harassed! Now is the time to take a stand!

What if a woman in power offered a man a job on the condition she slept with her?

Paul Markham 10-29-2017 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22052531)
And sexual harassment and rape is not sexism.

Sexism is prejudice or discrimination based on sex. Not sexual harassment or rape.

I was talking about sexism double standards, not about sexual harassment (where obviously women are the weaker side).

Now you are droppijg into the world of equality, which is a whole new subject but closely related to this one.

Women and not the equal to men. Otherwise, they wouldn't need different sporting events, they would race, fight compete with men. They wouldn't need laws to protect them from discrimination, extra time off work to have children and a family, etc. We are different.

Paul Markham 10-29-2017 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NatalieMojoHost (Post 22052561)
Uhm, Hi Paul... I'm Natalie... uhm.

Lots of men decided to post in your "question for women" thread. Not even sure if a females' posts are necessary at this point.



For one, rape may happen to any person, female or male. It's funny how some men seem to deny it... there is nothing wrong with admitting it, seriously. I'm sure there are persons out there who you wouldn't want to have sex with and if someone drugged you or tied you up and went at it this would be called rape.

Rape is another subject. I'm discussing a person getting a very well paid job, a shot at stardom in exchange for sex. She can take it or leave it. Men rarely have the same advantage. They have to compete purely on ability to do the job.

Paul Markham 10-29-2017 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22052603)
BTW, being drunk does not release you from liability, so if a girl is drunk and she agrees with sex, that is not considered rape. And this way it is 100% right IMO. Drinking and getting drunk is every person's own responsibility, so fuck those bitches who get drunk, agree with sex and then claim they were raped .. load of crap :2 cents:

In the UK it is considered rape if she complains afterwards. Even if she was sober enough to walk to the hotel lobby and pick up a pizza delivery. A footballer was convicted of rape, in that case, he was also drunk.

Paul Markham 10-29-2017 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead (Post 22053299)
Courtney has standards, you do not. Its OK to not get this......

Why do you label a girl differently for sleeping around? That's sexist. :winkwink:

notinmybackyard 10-29-2017 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22050931)
Men are getting a lot of abuse in the media for "harassing" women in Hollywood. Is this fair?

So my question is simple.

Would you sleep with some for a $100,000 and the chance of a career worth $10,000,000 per year?

We know Natalie would fuck anyone for a lot less. So girls what would be your price?

Be honest with yourself.

I'm not a woman but I have got daughters and grand daughters so I'll toss my hat in the ring.

Today most men are disrespectful assholes. I came from the generation that did such things as hold open a door for a woman, tipped their hats, etc. Today it's a generation that treats women like shit and believes that all women are just fuck-holes. The entire concept of "There's an appropriate time and place" is sorely lacking in today's society.
  • Plus "how you treat one woman is NOT how you should treat all women."

Some women have no problems with a man being a perverted sexual pig with her while a different woman can crucify a man that tries a harmless flirt.

kane 10-29-2017 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22053985)
But she's happy to take the money for the part.

Doesn't matter. For starters, she might not be happy to take it but does so because she thinks if she doesn't take the deal she will be blacklisted. Even if she was fine with the deal and happily took it things don't change because by taking it they are setting a standard where fucking him is how you get success which makes for an unfair playing ground and hostile work environment for those who don't take it.

SpicyM 10-30-2017 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22053999)
In the UK it is considered rape if she complains afterwards. Even if she was sober enough to walk to the hotel lobby and pick up a pizza delivery. A footballer was convicted of rape, in that case, he was also drunk.


Yeah, I know. Another reason why I would never want to live in UK. That is completely retarded fucked up feminazi justice.

EvaDevine 10-30-2017 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22050931)
Men are getting a lot of abuse in the media for "harassing" women in Hollywood. Is this fair?

So my question is simple.

Would you sleep with some for a $100,000 and the chance of a career worth $10,000,000 per year?

We know Natalie would fuck anyone for a lot less. So girls what would be your price?

Be honest with yourself.

A bonus will be a big dick to match that money.

CaptainHowdy 10-30-2017 07:39 AM

Is not by chance that Paul is an award-winning troll ...

Paul Markham 10-30-2017 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22054320)
Doesn't matter. For starters, she might not be happy to take it but does so because she thinks if she doesn't take the deal she will be blacklisted. Even if she was fine with the deal and happily took it things don't change because by taking it they are setting a standard where fucking him is how you get success which makes for an unfair playing ground and hostile work environment for those who don't take it.

She's already blacklisted if she's not getting the acting parts.

Pity a man can't offer to fuck Harvey for a job.

Paul Markham 10-30-2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22055146)
Is not by chance that Paul is an award-winning troll ...

I ask interesting questions and challenge the normal ways.

Imagine a world where Men could get the same deal. Fuck a producer, get $100,000 for the part and a shot at stardom.

This is why men and women aren't equal.

kane 10-30-2017 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22055528)
She's already blacklisted if she's not getting the acting parts.

Pity a man can't offer to fuck Harvey for a job.

Just because she isn't getting parts doesn't mean she is blacklisted. Hollywood is hyper-competitive and even the best, most successful actors can go through dry spells, not to mention up and coming actors can sometimes take a while to build a career. Making it so an actress has to sleep with him to get the part is flat out illegal.

Paul Markham 10-30-2017 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 22054031)
I'm not a woman but I have got daughters and grand daughters so I'll toss my hat in the ring.

Today most men are disrespectful assholes. I came from the generation that did such things as hold open a door for a woman, tipped their hats, etc. Today it's a generation that treats women like shit and believes that all women are just fuck-holes. The entire concept of "There's an appropriate time and place" is sorely lacking in today's society.
  • Plus "how you treat one woman is NOT how you should treat all women."

Some women have no problems with a man being a perverted sexual pig with her while a different woman can crucify a man that tries a harmless flirt.

That is so wrong I won't bother to tell you why.

NatalieMojoHost 11-01-2017 04:33 AM

To answer the question directly - I'd probably say no. The why is not really entirely moral values though. I think the reasoning divides equally between the fact I'm married and that would upset my husband and because I'd make an awful actress if I did get a "shot at stardom". I also have enough to support my family and basic needs are not an issue.

That being said, if ever my child comes to me and says "mommy, I'm hungry" and I have no money to feed her, I'll not hesitate to break ANY of the commandments. So yes, I'd sleep with, steal from, lie to or even kill if that was the only way for me to provide for her basic needs.

SpicyM 11-01-2017 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NatalieMojoHost (Post 22057958)
I'm married and that would upset my husband

So your decision would not be based on the fact that you love your husband, but because it would upset him.. ? LOL.. Must be true love :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by NatalieMojoHost (Post 22057958)
So yes, I'd sleep with, steal from, lie to or even kill if that was the only way for me to provide for her basic needs.

That sounds like you try to justify a murder, seriously??

I am affraid of walking on the street now.. cause if there are more persons that would kill me just to feed his/her bastards (even though I have nothing to do with that) than we really live in a fucked up world. :Oh crap

starling 11-01-2017 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22057986)
So your decision would not be based on the fact that you love your husband, but because it would upset him.. ? LOL.. Must be true love :1orglaugh



That sounds like you try to justify a murder, seriously??

I am affraid of walking on the street now.. cause if there are more persons that would kill me just to feed his/her bastards (even though I have nothing to do with that) than we really live in a fucked up world. :Oh crap

Everyone has something that can make them kill.

NatalieMojoHost 11-01-2017 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22057986)
So your decision would not be based on the fact that you love your husband, but because it would upset him.. ? LOL.. Must be true love :1orglaugh



That sounds like you try to justify a murder, seriously??

I am affraid of walking on the street now.. cause if there are more persons that would kill me just to feed his/her bastards (even though I have nothing to do with that) than we really live in a fucked up world. :Oh crap

First off, I don't see how not wanting to uspet him contradicts the fact that I love him.

Second, as starling said, thank you, - there are reasons and situations. Naturally, that'd be a last resort. Meaning I'd first sell both of my kidneys and deplete all other options. But it's a basic, intrinsic animal instinct to protect your young and ensure their survival, it goes far beyond any cultural or religious or moral beliefs. I could certainly kill to protect her from an attacker. Does that make me a bad person? I don't know. But messing with my child would not be a smart move.

SpicyM 11-01-2017 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NatalieMojoHost (Post 22058262)
First off, I don't see how not wanting to uspet him contradicts the fact that I love him.

Because if you love him and you are married, you would not want to sleep with another man in the first place. Simple logic. Instead.. you said you would not want to upset him. :1orglaugh Big difference IMO.

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Originally Posted by NatalieMojoHost (Post 22058262)
Second, as starling said, thank you, - there are reasons and situations. Naturally, that'd be a last resort. Meaning I'd first sell both of my kidneys and deplete all other options. But it's a basic, intrinsic animal instinct to protect your young and ensure their survival, it goes far beyond any cultural or religious or moral beliefs. I could certainly kill to protect her from an attacker. Does that make me a bad person? I don't know. But messing with my child would not be a smart move.

You said you would kill to feed your kids.. that sounded like you would kill an innocent person (who could have kids too btw) just to feed your kids (stealing his money or his food). I don't see any attacker mentioned in there...

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Originally Posted by NatalieMojoHost (Post 22058262)
That being said, if ever my child comes to me and says "mommy, I'm hungry" and I have no money to feed her, I'll not hesitate to break ANY of the commandments. So yes, I'd sleep with, steal from, lie to or even kill if that was the only way for me to provide for her basic needs.


Paul Markham 11-01-2017 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NatalieMojoHost (Post 22057958)
To answer the question directly - I'd probably say no. The why is not really entirely moral values though. I think the reasoning divides equally between the fact I'm married and that would upset my husband and because I'd make an awful actress if I did get a "shot at stardom". I also have enough to support my family and basic needs are not an issue.

That being said, if ever my child comes to me and says "mommy, I'm hungry" and I have no money to feed her, I'll not hesitate to break ANY of the commandments. So yes, I'd sleep with, steal from, lie to or even kill if that was the only way for me to provide for her basic needs.

So if you were broke and waiting tables, asked your "unemployed" husband if it was OK, he says yes. You would go for it. :1orglaugh

NatalieMojoHost 11-05-2017 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22058380)
So if you were broke and waiting tables, asked your "unemployed" husband if it was OK, he says yes. You would go for it. :1orglaugh

I've waited tables and made very good money on tips, Paul. I've also worked 4 jobs, 2 of which full-time, while also getting an honors Masters degree. And am very much capable to take care of myself and mine. I'm also a certified barista and have spent my entire life working to make sure there is never a situation when I'm broke enough to have to cross any boundaries I don't want to cross. But in a hypothetical situation of no other choice and no other way - sure. Do you think anyone would let their child starve to death while worrying about dignity?

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22058334)
Because if you love him and you are married, you would not want to sleep with another man in the first place. Simple logic. Instead.. you said you would not want to upset him. :1orglaugh Big difference IMO.

I don't think "want" was part of this discussion at all. I thought we were discussing sex as a bargain.

If you were faced with a choice between the life of your child and the life of someone else, what would be yours? Maybe this question will clarify my statement.

In any case, I think you are not trying to see the point I'm making but rather want to confront whatever I say, so I might as well thank you for the discussion and propose to conclude it.

NatalieMojoHost 11-05-2017 02:46 PM

I think neither of you, Paul or SpicyM, understands what I am talking about. Possibly the difference is cultural, I don't know what your backgrounds are.
I was born in a country that has, within the past 100 years or so, gone through two major hunger episodes and been the battleground of both world wars. I didn't find this out from history books - my grandparents remembered this and told stories that would make your hair curl. I hope events like that never happen to any of us, but they aren't entirely impossible... quite on the contrary.
No, this isn't about having a low income, or being dependant on the government. It isn't about getting a new IPhone. I am talking about survival, not "#FirstWorldProblems".


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