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  • Matt 26z
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    • Apr 2002
    • 18481
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    500 muzzies under constant surveillance in UK

    The European Union?s counter-terror chief estimates that the bloc is now host to ?more than 50,000? radical Islamists.

    Gilles de Kerchove, the European Union?s Counter-Terrorism Co-ordinator, revealed the startling new figures in an interview with El Mundo.

    ?The United Kingdom has identified 20,000 to 35,000 radicals,? said the Belgian official ? although he later clarified that he meant to put the upper end of that estimate at 25,000.

    ?Of these, 3,000 are worrying for MI5, and of those 500 are under constant and special attention.

    ?France has 17,000. Spain many less, but more than 5,000, I suppose. In Belgium, almost 500 have been to Syria, and there are around 2,000 radicals or more.

    ?I wouldn?t like to put a concrete figure on it, but [in Europe] tens of thousands, more than 50,000.

    Counter-Terror Chief: Europe Home to 'More than 50,000' Islamic Radicals รข?? With Up To 25,000 in UK
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    • Matt 26z
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      • Apr 2002
      • 18481
      #2
      Here's one about the UK favoring integration for ISIS members rather than prosecution. Crazy!



      A senior government adviser has told the BBC that the authorities are not prosecuting many Islamic State volunteers, believing they should be reintegrated rather than punished.

      Max Hill QC, who acts as the government’s Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation, told Radio 4 that “we do have a significant number [of Islamic State volunteers] already back in this country who have previously gone to Iraq and Syria” — currently estimated at something over 400.

      “That means that the authorities have looked at them, and looked at them hard, and decided that they do not justify prosecution, and really we should be looking towards reintegration and moving away from any notion that we’re going to lose a generation thanks to this travel.”

      “But that’s fascinating,” responded the BBC presenter.

      “Because there is a school of thought, isn’t there, that looks and these people and thinks, ‘Well hang on a second they’ve gone to a place where mass murders were being committed, they’ve gone there voluntarily, they’ve gone there presumably because they have some enthusiasm for what was happening there’ — it is odd to treat them as if they’ve committed no offence,” he said.

      UK Anti-Terror Tsar: UK Authorities Not Prosecuting Islamic State Returnees to Avoid Creating a 'Lost Generation' - Breitbart

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        • RedFred
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          • Feb 2016
          • 9782
          #3
          So you're a brit.

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            • Barry-xlovecam
              It's 42
              • Jun 2010
              • 18083
              #4
              So what do you propose? We are all waiting for the Matt 26z solution.

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                • mineistaken
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                  • Apr 2007
                  • 29656
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                  So what do you propose? We are all waiting for the Matt 26z solution.
                  In ideal world you could simply deport them to their places of origin, but of course not in these times due to "human rights" and of course due to some of them being born in UK.

                  I mean just think about it - you have (potential) terrorist that you know of but they roam free. That would not happen in any other time of human history.

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                    • Barry-xlovecam
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                      • Jun 2010
                      • 18083
                      #6
                      Why would you want to deport people who have been convicted of no crimes under your laws and who have legal residency your county granted them?

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                        • pimpmaster9000
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                          • Dec 2011
                          • 26732
                          #7
                          In other news, your own furniture is still more likely to kill you that terrorists...this fact gives racist OP an immense butthurt because he was so happy with his breitbart report...

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                            • mineistaken
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                              • Apr 2007
                              • 29656
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                              Why would you want to deport people who have been convicted of no crimes under your laws and who have legal residency your county granted them?
                              Not sure if trolling or serious?
                              Maybe because all/most of them are potential terrorists. Or do you think really innocent people made that list? Probably the very least dangerous person on that list is the one not planning anything, but just hating on UK. And if you hate UK you are not welcome in UK. And again - that is probably the smallest possible reason to end up on that list.
                              So again not sure if trolling or serious.

                              Imagine 2 choices:

                              a) these 500 remain in UK
                              b) these 500 dissapier from UK

                              Why would ANYONE chose a as a better option?

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                                • Barry-xlovecam
                                  It's 42
                                  • Jun 2010
                                  • 18083
                                  #9
                                  Sounds like the same logic of the Nazi Nuremberg Laws to me. They did the same things.

                                  In the UK is there still Queens Remand by court order? That would be a legal way to detain persons if reasonable evidence is presented to a court.

                                  So now hating is a crime -- you are probably the one of most hateful people around here -- maybe you should be deported if you insist that is a crime?

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                                    • DraX
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                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 7147
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                      Sounds like the same logic of the Nazi Nuremberg Laws to me. They did the same things.

                                      In the UK is there still Queens Remand by court order? That would be a legal way to detain persons if reasonable evidence is presented to a court.

                                      So now hating is a crime -- you are probably the one of most hateful people around here -- maybe you should be deported if you insist that is a crime?
                                      I agree with mineistaken...

                                      Then consider the political correctness state of the U.K. or any other country in western europe, you think they tracking 500 muslims in the U.K. for funsies ?

                                      Also think about this, the costs of tracking these individuals when instead some kid with cancer in Brighton or Manchester who's parents have been paying taxes their whole life yet not receiving adequate health care.

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                                        • Barry-xlovecam
                                          It's 42
                                          • Jun 2010
                                          • 18083
                                          #11
                                          Whatever. Tremble in fear. ISIS and al Qaeda are far from dead and you are just making matters worse.

                                          The more you are hostile toward the 'muzzies' the more they will push back and radicalize. You, Drax, are a self-fulfilling prophesy.

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                                            • klinton
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                                              • Apr 2003
                                              • 8766
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by mineistaken
                                              In ideal world you could simply deport them to their places of origin, but of course not in these times due to "human rights" and of course due to some of them being born in UK.

                                              I mean just think about it - you have (potential) terrorist that you know of but they roam free. That would not happen in any other time of human history.
                                              I agree with you (so rare). But I think that those that should be deported are IMAMs and mullas teaching hate speech.

                                              I simply cant understand why these guys are in the country that they hate so much. They simply should make a choice and go to a country which suits them more. Like for example to Saudi Arabia or maybe Qatar ?

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                                                • klinton
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                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 8766
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                  The more you are hostile toward the 'muzzies' the more they will push back and radicalize. You, Drax, are a self-fulfilling prophesy.
                                                  the original post is about "radicalized" guys, not normal people that want to live, have jobs and procreate. Frankly, I see no reasons why these radicals should stay in countries that they hate so much and want to change so much.

                                                  It's like allowing neonazis to spread hate speech or get into parlamentary elections. It's the same shit. These guys are simply not compatible with democratic plural society and will do anything to change it for their "Regime".

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                                                    • klinton
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                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 8766
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by DraX
                                                      Also think about this, the costs of tracking these individuals when ....
                                                      I wouldnt worry about that much, NSA and GHCQ already spend bilions on tracking of normal persons and their citizens, so....

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                                                        • pimpmaster9000
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                                                          • Dec 2011
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                                                          #15
                                                          Furniture under constant surveillance, kills more people than terrorists...deport furniture...keep the UK safe!
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                                                            • BaldBastard
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                                                              • Jan 2001
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                                                              #16
                                                              The good news is that Trump said crime was up 13% in the UK, but he forgot that even with this past year its down 18% on ten years ago.

                                                              So it seems the extra Muslim population in the UK is actively helping keep the crime rate lower than it was previously.

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                                                              Here in Aus some suburbs have more than 500 being watched, fuck Chinas watching a billion no issues. I think many people here forget boards like this are watched very closely.

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                                                                • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                  It's 42
                                                                  • Jun 2010
                                                                  • 18083
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by klinton
                                                                  the original post is about "radicalized" guys, not normal people that want to live, have jobs and procreate. Frankly, I see no reasons why these radicals should stay in countries that they hate so much and want to change so much.

                                                                  It's like allowing neonazis to spread hate speech or get into parlamentary elections. It's the same shit. These guys are simply not compatible with democratic plural society and will do anything to change it for their "Regime".
                                                                  If criminal sedition, criminal incitement or some hate crime is committed -- fine then deport them. With due process under your national laws that follow basic human rights (Nazi exclusion). We have a guarantee of due process in the USA. It doesn't always work well but it does work pretty well usually.

                                                                  As for neo-Nazis spreading their 'fake populist' lies and hate -- enforce the laws and when they cross the line -- lock them up and throw away the key.

                                                                  You cannot argue for your free speech, especially when it is 'speech' of racial bating or spreading fears and hate, then want to deport people in your country legally because they say (speech) they don't like you now or express some grievance. That is just the hypocrisy of hate -- this has been going on since ancient times -- I do not expect it to stop -- just that people realize what it is -- that is a start.

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                                                                    • PR_Glen
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                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                      • 9058
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by DraX
                                                                      I agree with mineistaken...

                                                                      Then consider the political correctness state of the U.K. or any other country in western europe, you think they tracking 500 muslims in the U.K. for funsies ?

                                                                      Also think about this, the costs of tracking these individuals when instead some kid with cancer in Brighton or Manchester who's parents have been paying taxes their whole life yet not receiving adequate health care.

                                                                      Is there anything of what I just stated wrong? Then please correct me...
                                                                      I know you don't get out much, but in the UK they do have very good healthcare. A system where they don't have to pay cash for, like yours. It's not political correctness to allow immigrants into your nation, it is what built every western nation to the strength they are at today.

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                                                                        • celandina
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                                                                          • Jun 2006
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                                          In ideal world you could simply deport them to their places of origin, but of course not in these times due to "human rights" and of course due to some of them being born in UK.

                                                                          I mean just think about it - you have (potential) terrorist that you know of but they roam free. That would not happen in any other time of human history.

                                                                          easy solution:

                                                                          1) those NOT born in European countries should be returned to their home countries.

                                                                          2) those who were, to be charged with treason and jailed for life....

                                                                          Problem solved.

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                                                                            • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                              • Dec 2011
                                                                              • 26732
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by celandina
                                                                              easy solution:

                                                                              1) those NOT born in European countries should be returned to their home countries.

                                                                              2) those who were, to be charged with treason and jailed for life....

                                                                              Problem solved.
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                                                                                • jackiehst
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                                                                                  • Oct 2012
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                  It's like allowing neonazis to spread hate speech or get into parlamentary elections.
                                                                                  or to overthrow a government and create a regime - like in the Ukraine

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                                                                                    • jackiehst
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                                                                                      • Oct 2012
                                                                                      • 114
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      IMO every ISIS soldier should be jailed and then sent to Iraq. Iraqis will give them a medicine.

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                                                                                        • Paul Markham
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                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 52942
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          They should be kicked out if they were not born in the country. It's obvious they love the Muslim way but don't want to live in a Muslim country.



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                                                                                            • NewNick
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                              They should be kicked out if they were not born in the country. It's obvious they love the Muslim way but don't want to live in a Muslim country.
                                                                                              FFS Markham,

                                                                                              So you should be kicked out of Cz ?
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                                                                                                • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2011
                                                                                                  • 26732
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                  They should be kicked out if they were not born in the country. It's obvious they love the Muslim way but don't want to live in a Muslim country.

                                                                                                  paul loves the UK so much he refused to employ englishmen and migrated to a cheaper country...he is not a racist at all noooooooooo he just cares deeply about the UK
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                                                                                                    • klinton
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                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                      • 8766
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by jackiehst
                                                                                                      or to overthrow a government and create a regime - like in the Ukraine
                                                                                                      sorry, dont agree. you have to be really brainwashed to think that Maidan was orchestrated by anyone lol.
                                                                                                      It's Ukraine lol, they had 4 revolutions in last 25 years
                                                                                                      each one of them wasnt better than previous one

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                                                                                                        • Bryan G
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                                                                                                          • Aug 2005
                                                                                                          • 8338
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                          They should be kicked out if they were not born in the country. It's obvious they love the Muslim way but don't want to live in a Muslim country.
                                                                                                          You dumb fuck. You?re English and live in CZ.
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                                                                                                            • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                                              It's 42
                                                                                                              • Jun 2010
                                                                                                              • 18083
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              He married a Czech woman so he has permanent residency -- are you a naturalized Czech citizen now too Paul?

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                                                                                                                • Sarn
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                                                                                                                    • nico-t
                                                                                                                      emperor of my world
                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                      • 29903
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                                      In other news, your own furniture is still more likely to kill you that terrorists..
                                                                                                                      This is one of your favourite comparisons, but it is completely illogical reasoning.

                                                                                                                      So according to you, furniture has a higher probability in killing you than terrorists. I assume this is true. But does that mean you have to accept terrorists in your country? What are you trying to say with this completely meaningless comparison? Does that mean we in the western world aren't allowed to criticize our immigration policies (or lack thereof) because it brings in animals?
                                                                                                                      "Oh don't whine about those people slaughtered in Bataclan. You still have a higher chance your furniture will kill you." You see how retarded that sounds?

                                                                                                                      Why don't you go to Syria and tell them "Oh don't worry ISIS and others have wiped out so many of your people. You still have a higher chance to be killed by cancer."
                                                                                                                      This is exactly the same reasoning. Go on, tell these people who have suffered from ISIS the most that cancer or heart failure is still a bigger killer, so that they don't have to do anything against the ISIS threat and to stop whining about it. I'm sure they'll understand your great logic.

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                                                                                                                        • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                                          • Dec 2011
                                                                                                                          • 26732
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by nico-t
                                                                                                                          This is one of your favourite comparisons, but it is completely illogical reasoning.

                                                                                                                          So according to you, furniture has a higher probability in killing you than terrorists. I assume this is true. But does that mean you have to accept terrorists in your country? What are you trying to say with this completely meaningless comparison? Does that mean we in the western world aren't allowed to criticize our immigration policies (or lack thereof) because it brings in animals?
                                                                                                                          "Oh don't whine about those people slaughtered in Bataclan. You still have a higher chance your furniture will kill you." You see how retarded that sounds?

                                                                                                                          Why don't you go to Syria and tell them "Oh don't worry ISIS and others have wiped out so many of your people. You still have a higher chance to be killed by cancer."
                                                                                                                          This is exactly the same reasoning. Go on, tell these people who have suffered from ISIS the most that cancer or heart failure is still a bigger killer, so that they don't have to do anything against the ISIS threat and to stop whining about it. I'm sure they'll understand your great logic.
                                                                                                                          Let's just be shit to all Muslims because a few of them do shit that is so extremely unlikely that you literally have more chance of being killed by your own furniture...out with the "animals" LOL...oh and pls ignore the western war mongering...does not count because we are white!...

                                                                                                                          Let's be lead by intellectual titans like Paul Markham and Matt 26z LOL...they care so much about the white man LOL....

                                                                                                                          You guys are the terrorists best friends....everything they could ever hope for LOL
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                                                                                                                            • nico-t
                                                                                                                              emperor of my world
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                              • 29903
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                                              Let's just be shit to all Muslims because a few of them do shit that is so extremely unlikely that you literally have more chance of being killed by your own furniture...out with the "animals" LOL...oh and pls ignore the western war mongering...does not count because we are white!...

                                                                                                                              Let's be lead by intellectual titans like Paul Markham and Matt 26z LOL...they care so much about the white man LOL....

                                                                                                                              You guys are the terrorists best friends....everything they could ever hope for LOL
                                                                                                                              you constantly talk about people having black and white views, yet you fail to see your own black and white views when it comes to this topic. You can be critical of both "sides" you know. No need to blindly defend one.

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                                                                                                                                • klinton
                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 8766
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                                                  Let's just be shit to all Muslims because a few of them do shit that is so extremely unlikely that you literally have more chance of being killed by your own furniture...out with the "animals" LOL...oh and pls ignore the western war mongering...does not count because we are white!...

                                                                                                                                  Let's be lead by intellectual titans like Paul Markham and Matt 26z LOL...they care so much about the white man LOL....

                                                                                                                                  You guys are the terrorists best friends....everything they could ever hope for LOL
                                                                                                                                  the OP is about RADICALIZED muslims, not normal muslim people that want to live, work, have families and some fun
                                                                                                                                  I bet that you know what I mean. Its like normal Bosnak and radicalized Sharia Bosniak...and what did you do with radicalized Bosniaks ? You said it yourself that you kicked them out to live in the mountains, right ?
                                                                                                                                  so whats the difference here ?

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                                                                                                                                    • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2011
                                                                                                                                      • 26732
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                                                                      the OP is about RADICALIZED muslims, not normal muslim people that want to live, work, have families and some fun
                                                                                                                                      I bet that you know what I mean. Its like normal Bosnak and radicalized Sharia Bosniak...and what did you do with radicalized Bosniaks ? You said it yourself that you kicked them out to live in the mountains, right ?
                                                                                                                                      so whats the difference here ?
                                                                                                                                      People who start or plan trouble are criminals and the police should deal with them...if they are there illegally they should be deported...but 99.9% are not criminals, they ran away from war and what the west left them after centuries of colonialism and war mongering and it's wrong to deport them..we would all do the same in their situation...ESPECIALLY PAUL MARKHAM LOL!...they are being treated like white men commit no crime, but if a refugee does something it's time to go apeshit...

                                                                                                                                      The point of OP s threads is racism...he does not give 2 shits about the white man, he just does not like anybody who is not white...he just wants them all out because he is a racist but too pussy to openly admit the obvious...
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                                                                                                                                        • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2011
                                                                                                                                          • 26732
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                                                                          the OP is about RADICALIZED muslims, not normal muslim people that want to live, work, have families and some fun
                                                                                                                                          I bet that you know what I mean. Its like normal Bosnak and radicalized Sharia Bosniak...and what did you do with radicalized Bosniaks ? You said it yourself that you kicked them out to live in the mountains, right ?
                                                                                                                                          so whats the difference here ?
                                                                                                                                          LOL they got beat up because they would not stop starting shit...they were super persistent and got beat out of town...they got what they asked for...
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