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04-25-2003, 09:58 AM

I buy links on the HUN....Paid submissions.

Once again I had a gallery rejected here it is:

http://www.wiredpussy.net/pictures/nina01/

Now here is the REASON from the HUN.

"I haven't placed RAM's link, his gallery is a bit too extreme for TheHun, especially the last two pics with the guy (strangling, she pretends to be dead?) . The banner he uses has thumblike pics on it."

Ok...so I will change the banner no problem. But the content is to extreme....WTF are you joking.

Lets just look at some of the other Paid galleries:

this was on there on 4-23
http://64.157.11.135/kaska/gal001a.html

click on the sponsor and tell me about looking DEAD.

Ok and just one more...this is on there today:
http://www.el.nl/galleries/hs2204/index.html

Now WTF....Yes I want to keep buying the traffic in fact I need it I don't want to cause problems but can't I get the same treatment as the others. Maybe I'm missing something here...so please help me...Before I pull out the hair I don't have.

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04-25-2003, 10:05 AM

dont post beasty shit, m'kay?
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04-25-2003, 10:05 AM

DOH, some things can't be explained sometimes.
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04-25-2003, 10:07 AM

there is a difference between a girl hanging in bondage and what looks like strangling man.

its easy to see, theres no men involved in the second bondage galley.

as for the beast.

no clue.

but id make sure to check for thumbs resembling man on woman violence before sumbitting, the only thumb in question is the one with the guy holding her, so at least you know where the error was.

i dont think he was focused on the 'dead' part more so as he was about the STRANGLING.

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04-25-2003, 10:08 AM

yeah the strangling thing looks a bit questionable... the two pics with that guy are pretty wicked hehe
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04-25-2003, 10:11 AM

So he is okay with extreme S&M and Beasty...but draws the line at faux-snuff.

Sounds fair to me.

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04-25-2003, 10:14 AM

Doesn't matter whether or not the strangle pic is borderline or not...it all comes down to this:

If the hun accepts beasty galleries, which are as extreme as they get, than how can he reject other obviously less extreme galleries? He set the bar himself.

And who cares if the last strangle pic is borderline? That's subjective.....some would think pics of a teen getting an anal gangbang is borderline as well.

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04-25-2003, 10:16 AM

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Hun's reviewer tries to avoid the case some of his surfers to get the impression the guy tries to strangle her or that she is dead on the last pic. I guess you can either put two other pics or if you don't have, to submit the gallery with 12 pics using a different table 4x3 or 3x4. I see your point though comparing with the other galleries....hm
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04-25-2003, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Yo Adrian
Doesn't matter whether or not the strangle pic is borderline or not...it all comes down to this:

what it comes down to is the old common GFY reply to people who get too wrapped up in 'Why didnt I get accepted.'

I have seen, so many times, people just say things like:

'Its the fucking huns site, dont submit to him then and run along'

how come its not said in threads like this? ;)

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the hun makes his own rules.

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04-25-2003, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by RAM
I buy links on the HUN....Paid submissions.

Once again I had a gallery rejected here it is:

http://www.wiredpussy.net/pictures/nina01/

oh man...what a pervert gall

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04-25-2003, 10:21 AM

why can't some people understand the forced sex thing just isn't cool....

Sucking dog dick might be extreme, but at least she looks pretty willing.
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04-25-2003, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
there is a difference between a girl hanging in bondage and what looks like strangling man.

its easy to see, theres no men involved in the second bondage galley.

as for the beast.

no clue.

but id make sure to check for thumbs resembling man on woman violence before sumbitting, the only thumb in question is the one with the guy holding her, so at least you know where the error was.

i dont think he was focused on the 'dead' part more so as he was about the STRANGLING.

Yes...now do me a favor...and on this gallery click on the sponsor link
http://64.157.11.135/kaska/gal001a.html

Then tell me about Dead and STRANGLING.

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04-25-2003, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Yo Adrian
Doesn't matter whether or not the strangle pic is borderline or not...it all comes down to this:

If the hun accepts beasty galleries, which are as extreme as they get, than how can he reject other obviously less extreme galleries? He set the bar himself.

And who cares if the last strangle pic is borderline? That's subjective.....some would think pics of a teen getting an anal gangbang is borderline as well.

THANK you ALSO the first gallery...please click the sponsor...then talk about the Strangling shit....

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04-25-2003, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by RAM

Then tell me about Dead and STRANGLING.

i see no man.

What part of 'MAN ON WOMAN VIOLENCE' do you not get man?

if there is no man involved its not strangling.

some people, no matter what get a little disturbed by seeing the MEN involved like that. instead of dealing with emails from his surfers he rather not list the gallery, understandbale, dont you think? ;)

I notice your gallery only had 2 thumbs with a man, THOSE were the specific thumbs he mentioned, yet you are comparing a girl and bondage gallery to a gallery with a man strangling her.

its different

im not trying to argue, was just trying to help.

again, most people get replies like, 'its the fucking huns site, so go to hell.'

id move on.

you could have removed the 2 thumbs and got it ready to submit in a couple days,.

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04-25-2003, 10:33 AM

how much do paid submissions cost on the hun? thanx!
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04-25-2003, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

i see no man.

What part of 'MAN ON WOMAN VIOLENCE' do you not get man?

if there is no man involved its not strangling.

some people, no matter what get a little disturbed by seeing the MEN involved like that. instead of dealing with emails from his surfers he rather not list the gallery, understandbale, dont you think? ;)

I notice your gallery only had 2 thumbs with a man, THOSE were the specific thumbs he mentioned, yet you are comparing a girl and bondage gallery to a gallery with a man strangling her.

its different

im not trying to argue, was just trying to help.

again, most people get replies like, 'its the fucking huns site, so go to hell.'

id move on.

you could have removed the 2 thumbs and got it ready to submit in a couple days,.

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OK look here is the gallery from the 23rd "not MINE"
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04-25-2003, 10:39 AM

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04-25-2003, 10:41 AM

you keep showing me the same gallery trying to convince me, i really dont give a fuck about it man. ;)

its not my site, not my gallery. i dont submit galleries with man on woman violence.

convincing me will do you know good, nor will it change the Huns mind, as I already said i wasnt hear to argue or try to justify my point, i was simply bringing up what the hun specifically mentioned and you fail to grasp.

i dont see whats so hard to grasp about 'man on woman violence.' as opposed to a woman hanging and gagged, there is a difference.

he doesnt want it. he didnt accept it, there is no democracy here

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04-25-2003, 10:42 AM

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Sucking dog dick might be extreme, but at least she looks pretty willing.

Nobody could be "willing" to do this....drugged, maybe. brainwashed, maybe. willing, no way.

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04-25-2003, 10:45 AM

Bottom line is I spend a good amount of money on this and the company I work for spends 5 times as much. I"m just looking for it to be treated the same as the others.

We are talking about Paid submissions not just random galleries.

The galleries I have pointed out are Paid as well.

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04-25-2003, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by RAM
I buy links on the HUN....Paid submissions.

Once again I had a gallery rejected here it is:

http://www.wiredpussy.net/pictures/nina01/

Now here is the REASON from the HUN.

"I haven't placed RAM's link, his gallery is a bit too extreme for TheHun, especially the last two pics with the guy (strangling, she pretends to be dead?) . The banner he uses has thumblike pics on it."

Ok...so I will change the banner no problem. But the content is to extreme....WTF are you joking.

Lets just look at some of the other Paid galleries:

this was on there on 4-23
http://64.157.11.135/kaska/gal001a.html

click on the sponsor and tell me about looking DEAD.

Ok and just one more...this is on there today:
http://www.el.nl/galleries/hs2204/index.html

Now WTF....Yes I want to keep buying the traffic in fact I need it I don't want to cause problems but can't I get the same treatment as the others. Maybe I'm missing something here...so please help me...Before I pull out the hair I don't have.

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04-25-2003, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
you keep showing me the same gallery trying to convince me, i really dont give a fuck about it man. ;)

its not my site, not my gallery. i dont submit galleries with man on woman violence.

convincing me will do you know good, nor will it change the Huns mind, as I already said i wasnt hear to argue or try to justify my point, i was simply bringing up what the hun specifically mentioned and you fail to grasp.

i dont see whats so hard to grasp about 'man on woman violence.' as opposed to a woman hanging and gagged, there is a difference.

he doesnt want it. he didnt accept it, there is no democracy here

hahah

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Ok....your a ass and that is fine with me too.

If you don't see any Violence in the Hanging Bitches site...or the forced sex....look a little closer.

By the way there is NO forced Sex in our sites.

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04-25-2003, 10:49 AM

im on your side, but that doesnt mean a thing.

but again, you have to look at it from HIS point of view.

he spends good money and makes money as well, obviously his site means more to him than YOU.

so while some may not get upset about watched a sdog lick a womans pussy, which i have personally SEEN THE HUN DEFEND on this board, they may get disturbed by strangling.

comparing bondage and strangling are 2 very different things.

the hun has defended beast listings on this board, ive never seen him cover man on woman violence, but its obvious from his choice to NOT list the gallery he doesnt like it.

ask yourself this.

Would he have listed the gallery if you didnt have those 2 last thumbs?'

my guess is yes.

so next time omit such content.

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04-25-2003, 10:50 AM

JR.

Yes paid links...I buy paid links and still have them get rejected for reasons that are BS...look at the other galleries.

Yes I don't even submit galleries unless there paid

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04-25-2003, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
im on your side, but that doesnt mean a thing.

but again, you have to look at it from HIS point of view.

he spends good money and makes money as well, obviously his site means more to him than YOU.

so while some may not get upset about watched a sdog lick a womans pussy, which i have personally SEEN THE HUN DEFEND on this board, they may get disturbed by strangling.

comparing bondage and strangling are 2 very different things.

the hun has defended beast listings on this board, ive never seen him cover man on woman violence, but its obvious from his choice to NOT list the gallery he doesnt like it.

ask yourself this.

Would he have listed the gallery if you didnt have those 2 last thumbs?'

my guess is yes.

so next time omit such content.

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04-25-2003, 10:53 AM

Also I do work here and let me tell you....the girl in that gallery was IN TO IT.

That is why we are in San Francisco....there are two Bondage Capitals in the US....New York and San Fran.

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04-25-2003, 10:56 AM

Keep in mind also, the folks doing the on the edge porn like you have which totally degrades women in the worst way are gonna be at the top of the DOJ's go get 'em lists cause it won't be very hard for a US Attorney to convince a jury filled with women that you are distributing obscene material.

In this climate I'd stay as far away from the edge as possible unless you're into filming prison gangbangs with you as the star.

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04-25-2003, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by KRL
Keep in mind also, the folks doing the on the edge porn like you have which totally degrades women in the worst way are gonna be at the top of the DOJ's go get 'em lists cause it won't be very hard for a US Attorney to convince a jury filled with women that you are distributing obscene material.

In this climate I'd stay as far away from the edge as possible unless you're into filming prison gangbangs with you as the star.

Not sure why or how this type of shit comes in to play on posts.

I was just asking that all paid submission get rated the same.

As for your FEAR of Prison sounds like that must be what your into. There is nothing wrong with our content and WE have been making it since early 97.

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04-25-2003, 11:05 AM

Patrick does have a problem with anything that resembles forced sex.

I had the same issue when SCC first released nastycops.com, I built a gallery and sent it to Parney and The Hun rejected it because it looked "forced" (The theme of the site is girls doing a cop to get out of a ticket or a fine or going to jail etc)

Nothing you can do about it really, if you want his traffic you have to play by his rules, even if you're paying for the traffic.

Parney did offer to refund my money though, which was really nice.

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04-25-2003, 11:05 AM

wild shit man. i guess that's the downfall to pushing that stuff

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04-25-2003, 11:05 AM

how is pretending to choke a girl worse than cumming all over a girls face or shoving a cock down her gullet till she pukes ?

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04-25-2003, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by Lenny2
Patrick does have a problem with anything that resembles forced sex.

I had the same issue when SCC first released nastycops.com, I built a gallery and sent it to Parney and The Hun rejected it because it looked "forced" (The theme of the site is girls doing a cop to get out of a ticket or a fine or going to jail etc)

Nothing you can do about it really, if you want his traffic you have to play by his rules, even if you're paying for the traffic.

Parney did offer to refund my money though, which was really nice.

Yes Parney is great about that...and I want to keep getting the traffic. But I just want galleries to be RATED the same way.

Understand that the gallery with the hanging bitches links to the site. Take a look at the site....THAT IS FORCED SEX but yet it gets listed.

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04-25-2003, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by Yo Adrian

Nobody could be "willing" to do this....drugged, maybe. brainwashed, maybe. willing, no way.

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04-25-2003, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by cherrylula
why can't some people understand the forced sex thing just isn't cool....

Sucking dog dick might be extreme, but at least she looks pretty willing.

Location 4:20 maybe you should put the Bong, pipe or joint down and come out of the clouds.

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04-25-2003, 11:19 AM

RAM, I see your galleries listed seemingly daily at thehun. Never saw one of yours that looked like this..... why the change?

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04-25-2003, 11:21 AM

RAM, please don't feel upset, that was NOT the intend of the message we sent you...

Also, thanks for pointing out that other sponsor. I clicked the banner and added the site to the blacklist... I didn't catch that before. The link is now gone.

As for the animal link, I'll keep repeating: It's all about voluntary stuff. Men with animals will not be allowed on the Yellow Pages. That simply is animal abuse, and I don't want ANYTHING abusive on my page...

The abusive/unvoluntary part is the key here. The animalism gallery you pointed out shows no single trace of any unvoluntary action. Your gallery showed two thumbs of a girl being strangled and then looking dead... Staged or not, it is implying something unvoluntary, and that's what's causing the problem

The solution in this case is simple: remove the last two thumbs and resubmit. Problem solved...
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04-25-2003, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by The Hun

The solution in this case is simple: remove the last two thumbs and resubmit. Problem solved...

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

ask yourself this.

Would he have listed the gallery if you didnt have those 2 last thumbs?'

my guess is yes.

so next time omit such content.

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04-25-2003, 11:27 AM

I see, so animals like to have dick sucked by human or to fuck human, but a guy fucking an animal is wrong. Animals are such selfish lovers.

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04-25-2003, 11:32 AM

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RAM, please don't feel upset, that was NOT the intend of the message we sent you...

Also, thanks for pointing out that other sponsor. I clicked the banner and added the site to the blacklist... I didn't catch that before. The link is now gone.

As for the animal link, I'll keep repeating: It's all about voluntary stuff. Men with animals will not be allowed on the Yellow Pages. That simply is animal abuse, and I don't want ANYTHING abusive on my page...

The abusive/unvoluntary part is the key here. The animalism gallery you pointed out shows no single trace of any unvoluntary action. Your gallery showed two thumbs of a girl being strangled and then looking dead... Staged or not, it is implying something unvoluntary, and that's what's causing the problem

The solution in this case is simple: remove the last two thumbs and resubmit. Problem solved...

Perfect and is done. Also I didn't want to cause any problems just wanted to get Paid Submission to be Rated the same way.

So if this caused that gallery "hanging bitches" to be removed I will guess this means they will get there MONEY back too?

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04-25-2003, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by RAM

Understand that the gallery with the hanging bitches links to the site. Take a look at the site....THAT IS FORCED SEX but yet it gets listed.

This has been the root of a lot of misunderstandings... The fact that something is listed does not mean it's allowed and 100% ok. Unfortunately we're still not flawless and things get overlooked. The fact the site is listed merely means it shouldn't have been, not that it's ok.

I do realise that it causes a lot of confusion, but it sometimes happens unfortunately. We check galleries very closely. Especially new sponsors. But we can't thoroughly check every banner on a site.. We should have in this case, that advertising would never have been allowed. And in fact, it no longer is...

We try to treat everybody equally. And by the same standards. Basically the only standard there is: content has to be voluntary. This rules out: too extreme bondage, rape, death, child pornography, men with animals, but even unhappy posing women...

If 'hanging bitches' is a paying advertiser they will get the option to either change to a less extreme concept, or they will get their money back. I don't want my standards to be for sale...

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04-25-2003, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by The Hun

This has been the root of a lot of misunderstandings... The fact that something is listed does not mean it's allowed and 100% ok. Unfortunately we're still not flawless and things get overlooked. The fact the site is listed merely means it shouldn't have been, not that it's ok.

I do realise that it causes a lot of confusion, but it sometimes happens unfortunately. We check galleries very closely. Especially new sponsors. But we can't thoroughly check every banner on a site.. We should have in this case, that advertising would never have been allowed. And in fact, it no longer is...

We try to treat everybody equally. And by the same standards. Basically the only standard there is: content has to be voluntary. This rules out: too extreme bondage, rape, death, child pornography, men with animals, but even unhappy posing women...

If 'hanging bitches' is a paying advertiser they will get the option to either change to a less extreme concept, or they will get their money back. I don't want my standards to be for sale...

Thank you.

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04-25-2003, 11:42 AM

I think the main issue here is that Ram is just upset cause he sees things that are just as bad if not worse then what is on this gallery. I tend to agree with him. You guys have brought up some valid points though. It is the Hun's site and if he feels that these are not appropriate then so be it. I would not put Beasty shit or GAG BJs on my site. SO we all have our limits. It is just what is each individuals. But Ram... I am on your side!

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04-25-2003, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by Yo Adrian

Nobody could be "willing" to do this....drugged, maybe. brainwashed, maybe. willing, no way.

My you do lead a very sheltered life. I've known women who would almost pay to be shagged by a dog. Hmmmm...not quite sure what they says about me

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04-25-2003, 11:45 AM

Boy, this got settled rather quickly and simply, once The Hun stopped by and read/responded to this thread.

RAM, don't you think this could have been handled by just e-mailing HIM, and asking HIM for his reasons? Why come to the baords when the answer lies in one man? I understand your frustration, and I was wondering why you'd be rejected when the examples you posted here were approved, but I still theink you should have just contacted the one guy who could give you the answers.
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04-25-2003, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Steve
Boy, this got settled rather quickly and simply, once The Hun stopped by and read/responded to this thread.

RAM, don't you think this could have been handled by just e-mailing HIM, and asking HIM for his reasons? Why come to the baords when the answer lies in one man? I understand your frustration, and I was wondering why you'd be rejected when the examples you posted here were approved, but I still theink you should have just contacted the one guy who could give you the answers.

I wanted ANSWERS now......Try and e-mail the HUN and see how long it takes for him to get back to you. Now I'm not saying that is bad...but you know he gets a SICK amount of e-mail.

This way it's done and things are fair again. The only real drag is when posting on a Board is all the extra BS that goes with it.

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04-25-2003, 11:51 AM

damn that is some wild stuff, hanging girls?

serial killer fetish?

fucking wild shit
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04-25-2003, 11:55 AM

i learned a long time ago that it normally takes more time to post grievances about a denied submission than it takes to just fix the problem and move on.

btw, i looked at those two images... didn't see anything wrong with them at all.

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04-25-2003, 11:58 AM

Urgent matters take a MAXIMUM of 24 hours to be replied too. But that doesn't matter. I don't mind something like this being taken publicly... no namecalling was done, and the discussion never got ugly. It also could make things clear for other people. Kind of like a FAQ ;-)

RAM brought up a valid point. And looking from his side I could clearly see why he was upset. I would have reacted the same probably. But aside from RAM others could have seen the same thing, if they read this it might explain things for 'em...
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04-25-2003, 11:59 AM

if she was hogtied and getting fucked by a dog while looking alive, you'd be good to go.
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04-25-2003, 12:02 PM

I couldn't see what RAM was bitching about until I actually clicked on the sponsor link from the gallery AS HE SAID IN HIS POST. If people took the time to do that they'd know why he was pissed and why Patrick has now dropped the gallery.

Looking at that page RAM had a very valid point.

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