:)

Prove that the number of hits per day doesn't affect the average conversion rate?

Well, if you got 15 hits per day and made a sale every four days, your rate would be 1:60

If you got 60 hits per day and made a sale every day, your rate would be 1:60

If you got 6,000 hits per day and made 100 sales every day, your rate would be 1:60

If you got 600,000 hits per day and made 10,000 sales every day, your rate would be 1:60

It's a ratio of hits to sign ups, the number of hits per day does not come into it.

Or prove the conversion rate? Well, why not try us? I've tried your program before so I know how your flagship site converted and retained. If you're curious about ours, why not try it?

The site has been going for five years, has all exclusive material, is updated every two days and has the type of models that the market we focus on wants. Of course it converts and retains well. I don't get why you're being so prissy.

for non niche general site, without trial?
I smell bullshit. Talk is cheap as cutetwink says, let's test it - i will send you 1000 gay AVS hits and if it doesn't convert at least 1:100 (10 signups) what can you offer me? if you are so confident let's do so:
if it doesn't convert you send me $2000 (+ of course whatever i earned from those 1000 avs clicks), if it converts - i'll continue sending avs traffic, plus you'll get a lot of affiliates when I post the results :thumbsup

I'm not being prissy i am just saying i don't think these numbers are the truth.

I will also make you the same offer as Darkystar. 1k AVS clicks converting at least 1:100 or you pay me $2k. It will prove your program rocks. If it does i will continue to send traffic.

Try to understand that PhotoBoyz is different to your pay sites, judging from your portfolio. We don't use lots of bought in content geared around American tastes. We produce our own exclusive content geared around European tastes. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but they are different markets and one is saturated and the other isn't. Unsaturated niche markets almost always convert better than saturated ones.

I'm obviously not going to take you up on your offer. No surpises there. You don't like our site and don't understand its appeal, therefore you won't promote it effectively and won't get the good conversions. Your AVS sites are probably also aimed at the same market as your pay sites - that would only be natural - but it's not the target market for PhotoBoyz, and that will also affect your conversions.

Let me also say that I've tried your sites and got poor results but I would never try to make you look small on a board. And that's after giving you a chance. You know nothing about me or my sites, or the market I'm appealing to, yet you sit there sneering. I think that's kinda sad. PhotoBoyz has been going 5 years, with new exclusive content every two days. Would it even still be there, let alone making a healthy profit, which it is, if the idea/niche wasn't getting good conversions and retaining members? Doing things a bit differently is a risk, but it often pays off.

where did you get the idea that I don't like your site? You said so many words and none of them is a good excuse for not taking the offer. I take it as backing off of your own words. I'm not going to cheat you and send 1000 exit hits or something. I'll do it very honest way trust me. I'll go as far as showing you ads before sending traffic.

I said - talk is cheap and you continue talking instead of proving your words.

Also you said photoboyz.net is 5 years old.

whois shows "Record Created on 14-May-2001"

also http://web.archive.org/web/*/photoboyz.net

will you continue the cheap talk?

I have very good ratios with Cash Addicts and PhotoBoyz. We use those sites in some exits and get very good ratios. The content is some of the best I have seen. BTW I can tell you PhotoBoyz has been around for as long as they say they have, it was just under a different name. :)

I explained how we get the good conversions and why I didn't think you would get such good conversions. I'm not going to gamble on you being able to produce good quality traffic when I have no idea who you are!

"I'll do it very honest way trust me" - :1orglaugh

And it's all very clever looking up the domain info - but it's also misleading. PhotoBoyz used to have a .co.uk domain, being a UK site, and we only started using the global .com and .net domains about two years ago when the site got more international interest. Many of our affiliates and even a handful of members have been with us since the beginning.

I won't post to this thread again.

poor excuse again

chicken :winkwink:

Wow someone heard me complain and started selling one of the sites in my sig

I woke up to a nice suprise today!

Thank you whoever you are :thumbsup

F is for Fiddy! and F is for FAGS!!!


no offense to anybody of the gay persuasion:Graucho