Do you understand a difference between an accident and a premeditated murder?

As I said above, in my country every man is a soldier. Course if he is not cripple, has no money for a bribe and is not a son of some politician. If you are not one of those you have to serve in army and you may be sent to a real war (not a boy-scout camp like Rochard). You will have to kill and you may be killed too. I know a lot of people who were at wars like Afghanistan and Chechnya. All of them are regular guys - they have not signed any contracts and they were not paid for that. For example, a classmate of my wife (the guy who gave flowers to her when he was a boy) has served as a machine gun operator during the Chechen war. In contrast to Rochard, he is a real veteran who was at real war. Once when we were drinking beer with him, I asked: "how many people did you kill?". He said: "I don't know... maybe 20 or 25... When you fire with a machine gun, the guy just falls. Maybe he's dead, maybe injured or maybe he just stumbled..."

He drinks a lot now and I really feel for him, because he didn't choose to be a killer. He was drafted and pushed out when his service was completed. And there are many guys like him in Russia. They all were trained to kill, some (like that guy) have killed other humans. My brother in law was a member of VDV assault brigade in Afghanistan. He just doesn't tell what he did there (he says he was a cook at the kitchen), but I know what he did and that's won't sound good if I tell it here... Unfortunately. Too many Russian guys did that just because they had - not for money and not for contract and further preferences. As about the professional soldiers who get paid for their service - I don't care and totally agree with Trump - they know what they sign up for - to be killers.

You're calling me girlish and yet here you are comparing your feelings and emotional strength to that of a grieving woman?s.

Again, try to understand that in this context, no one gives a shit about how tough Mother Russia has made you and your feelings, comrade. Not the grieving woman, nor anyone with an ounce of human decency.

I'm saying this in the interest of the small chance that you'll have an epiphany and realize how fundamentally wrong your thought process is regarding this scenario.

Try to understand that I don't give a shit on how thought your country is. When a draft soldier dies it's a tragedy. When a paid mercenary dies - it's a normal end of his career. Mission accomplished, congratulations! Maybe you just don't understand what he was paid for? To live like a boy scout, shoot at bottles and sleep with exotic chicks? No...

Once again and again: president Trump is absolutely right.

Empathy. Look it up one day, maybe you'll realize that "the truth and nothing but the cold hard truth" can take a backseat among well-rounded, developed people in the interest of the feelings of another weaker human that's suffering in one way or another.

If that doesn't register with you, I don't know what to tell you and wish you good luck. :2 cents:

Gee Im trying to keep up., one day its fake outrage because some football players take a knee and by doing so, somehow disrepect the flag and troops. The next days its ok that the comander in chief disrespects fallen soldiers and outright lies about it..

No.

I didn't sign up to drive a tank. I didn't sign up to serve in a front line infantry unit. I didn't sign up to become a TOW gunner. I signed up to become a cook. I signed up to get money for college.

But no matter what....

The President of the United States should never call someone who's spouse just died and say "too fucking bad" or "No big deal" or "He knew what he was getting into.

No matter what.

It's undignified.

The leader of the free world should set the example, be a leader - not a crap on our troops by saying "this is what he signed up for".

It's deplorable.

I wouldn't walk up and say it on purpose, but if someone asked me, i'd tell em exactly that.

Dumbass behavior shouldn't be encouraged or sugarcoated.

What? Puts on a show for the sheep?

Fuck, this place gets more stupid by the day.


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Are you 5 years old? You sign up for a WAR ZONE, you know it, your family knows it, you get paid big $$$ for it. So why the fuck do you need everyone to hold your hand?

Boo-fucking-hoo! President Trump hurt my feelings because he said the truth! (not because i want to scam taxpayers for a $$$$$$$$ settlement)


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No why wonder our military is getting cucked all over the world.

He died protecting our freedom by fighting n*ggers in Niger

:1orglaugh

So you signed up to be a boy scout and live with a Barbie in her house and be paid for that? Please tell me where I can sing up for such a beautiful live? :)

P.S. So you are not a marine. You are a... cook? Congrats on that :thumbsup :1orglaugh

The same asshole nics here who bitched about BENGHAZI for years are now saying they knew what they signed up for no big deal.

Wow a lot of unpatriotic shitstain asshole nics here.

No need to justify youself to scum here you're a patriot :flagface

No, he didn't sign up for a war zone, he didn't sign up to go into combat, and he surely did not get paid "big $$$$" - unless you consider $20k a year "big $$$$".

No matter what NO ONE should say anything like that to someone who just died.

No, I never made it to cooking school.

Instead I became a TOW missile man, MOS 0352, and served with 2/8. After a few years I became a combat instructor with AITS.



I never saw any combat, and got out in 1989 shortly before Kuwait.

So I'm confused a bit. Are you a cook, or you are a cannon fodder - a man who will be killed first at a front line?

I will explain it to you in the military terminology. What is an efficient range of MOS 035? What is an efficient range of a sniper? But everything that doesn't mater, because there will be no snipers. There will be РСЗО "Буратино" (aka Pinokio :)) and 9К58 "Смерч" to take you out from the game. You won't be able to blink, before they will turn you into a bbq.

These little babes will be used to neutralize the TOW operators like you:



Now tell me you are not a cannon fodder :) You have signed for that and you are very lucky there were was no real military conflict.

In related alternative news, Donald Trump was quoted as saying "I'd rather not waste my time calling any war widows, unless they are at least a solid 8."

Your all carrying on as if Trump was responding to the solider or prep taking to the next batch of brain washed droids to be sent in on a mission, but he wasn't, he was speaking to the grieving widow crying on a phone.

Also interesting they sent Kelly in for the defence when its known the call was taken in a travelling car on speaker phone which Wilson was also in because she's a close family friend. Might be hard to avoid that and interesting how they are skipping over that part now.

well, don't take the cook for granted ....

Are you a fucking retard? The dude was a Green Beret.

Special Forces missions have like a 50% chance of being shot. "He knew what he signed up for" is not offensive. It's actually a complement to his bravery for signing up.

We don't even know what Trump said, we know what some crazy lady in a plastic cowboy hat who has already called for his impeachment says he said.

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Jesus Christ, screeching Libs will exploit anything. They're the ones looking bad again.

General Kelly just eviscerated that negro congresswoman and shit in her cowboy hat.

No.

First, we don't know he signed up to become a Green Beret. Maybe he signed up to be a cook and got pulled into infantry.

Second, it doesn't fucking matter. No matter what, it doesn't matter. I don't care if this man had a death wish and wanted, actually wanted to die on the battlefield. It doesn't matter. You don't walk up to the man's spouse and say "Eventually had had it coming" or "He knew it would happen eventually". You say nice things. You say good things. You say "He was a Hero" or "I'm sorry for your loss". It's called common decency.

This man has no common decency.

It's amazing how this happens. A man puts a lapel on his collar and claims to support the military when he doesn't know the first thing about it. He doesn't even seem to know who the President of the Virgin Islands is.

This is disgusting.

As I said above, my brother in law said he was a cook. A cook in a storm brigade of VDV... I don't think that Rochard did the things like he did...

Pal...

It's most certainly your right to tell yourself whatever you want. Needless to say I used to be pretty good at blowing sunshine up my own ass too. So I hope you got all that culinary training you were looking for.

She was so fucking hot in that movie...

Dude, you don't get it.

When you enlist, you're fighting for your country. You kill (or help soldiers to kill), and you get shot at. You're lucky to make it out alive. You see death, you lose your mind, you lose your friends. You give up a big part of your life to serve. For most it's a duty and an honour. When called to serve (drafted), most would go, knowing all the risks, but do so for duty and honour.

Snowflake Donald Trump claimed bone spurs to get out of serving. Donald Trump cares zero for soldiers. Donald Trump forgot the name of the soldier who's widow he was pretending to care about. Donald Trump casually and with zero fucks given, said "He knew what he was getting into".

What the fuck is wrong with a person who can defend this son of a bitch for total, casual disregard for the feelings of a grieving widow, and for the service that Sgt. La David Johnson, father of 2 kids with 3rd on the way, provided?

If you want to say he knew what he was in for when he signed up, thats up to you. But the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES should really have a little more respect and decorum.

^^^ Honorary American Patriot :flagface

He died for #KONY2012

Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump

Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof). Sad!

Well then that's it.

This thread can be locked now.

I don't get it either. Even if you are a complete jerk, you still can't be supporting this.

Unless he is a Russian troll.

The one time where he speaks the truth, where he should have kept his big mouth shut.

You just perfectly summed up my point.



Today there's no longer a draft.... Anyone joining the military does so willingly.

And you can thank all those wonderful people like myself of the 1960's who revolted against the establishment and got rid of the draft.

Says the failed military cook that became part of the missile launching brigade.

FYI - I don't fucking support anyone. I've never voted and I never will.

I haven't followed this more than from this thread. Here's my view: As a president for the country of which a soldier dies in the duty for, I would think the guy could at least squeeze out, mam I'm sorry for your loss, your husband died doing his duty...:2 cents:

Sgt. La David T Johnson has done well for his wife & kids after death.

Their GoFundMe is still collecting donations :thumbsup

This makes ZERO fucking sense. HE, has done nothing for the family he left behind.

you think he was tricked into joining the service Mark? the gov told the guy he could not get hurt? damn, buddy, you are really reaching on this one.

and what would Obama have said? something about global warming I'm sure, and Mrs Clinton? at this point, the ONLY dialogue that is coming out of her mouth is sex bullshit...

oh mark pls.. .... https://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/felon.asp

No regard for fallen soldiers you say "you think he was tricked into joining the service ...the gov told the guy he could not get hurt?"

Pretty shitty alt-right disposition against American heros you have :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Basically "he died so what" fuck you asshole :321GFY

The fact his widow & children have more money now than you've made your entire life brings me so much joy :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Fake nic will respond in 3..2..1..

There is no chance in hell you got past the 6th grade with your reading comprehension.

^^^ Fake nic troll response as predicted

Will respond again in 3..2..1..

yawn......

This thread is disgusting. It's like walking up the spouse of a police officer and saying "Well, it was only a matter of time".

This horrible.

They are bottom dwellers & mostly foreign fake nics controlled by a single morbidly obese hate troll in Poland

Fake nic troll response in 3.. 2.. 1..

yawn.......

^^^ As predicted , fake nic response

And again fake nic troll response in 3.. 2.. 1..

yawn....

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^^^ As predicted , fake nic response

boring..........

BINGO!! #ThanksAVN