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notinmybackyard 10-06-2017 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22027759)
What is exactly complicated? This is very easy, just watermark your content and have the model hold a paper with your name/date etc at the begining of the scene... And you can easily prove the video is yours..

Xhamster should delete the scene in this case described here, as he showed them the RAW files and even the watermarked files.

Let me say that I agree with you that in this case they should be deleted.

But I don't like the way this entire bullshit of what goes on today.

ie: Some fucking faggot fan boy dirty cunt living on the other side of the planet creates a site that allows other fan boys to steal for him and he not only gets away with it but makes from it too.

SpicyM 10-06-2017 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitzer Ebb (Post 22027779)
There is no authorship if you can't prove your authorship. Simply adding yuor website URL isn't one. Educate yourself. :2 cents:

You educate yourself.. idiot.

Here is a translated part of the local authorship law specially for you.

The author

(1) Author is the person who created the work.

(2) A person whose name, surname or forename (9) (hereinafter referred to as "the name") is mentioned in the work or in relation to the work in the usual manner as the author's designation shall be considered the author of the work, unless proven otherwise. This is true even if the work is marked with a pseudonym if there is no doubt about the author's identity.

Is that clear now finally?

SpicyM 10-06-2017 02:47 PM

And here is a part of the authorship law regarding Pseudonymous works...

§ 14

Anonymous work and pseudonymous work

(1) A work that is publicly distributed or otherwise publicly distributed without the author's identification is considered to be an anonymous work.

(2) A work which, by decision of the author, is publicly distributed or otherwise made public with other information than the author's name, is considered a pseudonymous work.

(3) The identity of the author of an anonymous work or pseudonym may be published only with the consent of the author.


So yes, a watermark with just your URL is a form of author's identification / pseudonym.

celandina 10-07-2017 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22027829)
And here is a part of the authorship law regarding Pseudonymous works...

§ 14

Anonymous work and pseudonymous work

(1) A work that is publicly distributed or otherwise publicly distributed without the author's identification is considered to be an anonymous work.

(2) A work which, by decision of the author, is publicly distributed or otherwise made public with other information than the author's name, is considered a pseudonymous work.

(3) The identity of the author of an anonymous work or pseudonym may be published only with the consent of the author.


So yes, a watermark with just your URL is a form of author's identification / pseudonym.


The punchline is, any voyuer videos which are NOT staged and properly documented are by themselves illegal. Your quote is correct but analogous to: "Your honour of course she did not consent, but she is over 18..."


Also, we are xHamsters content partners, but on occassion when some pirate uploaded our movies to xHamster and we sent DMCA, xHamster ALWAYS acted and removed the videos within 48 hours. A lot quicker then the den of thieves calling themselvs Youtube.....

SpicyM 10-07-2017 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22028505)
The punchline is, any voyuer videos which are NOT staged and properly documented are by themselves illegal.

See my earlier post cause I stated exactly this. :winkwink:

We are discussing authorship and proof here, not the legality of his production. Even if the video is produced without the permission of the depicted persons that does not mean there are no authorship laws applied. He still is an author of that. Murdering a murderer does not make murder legal.

celandina 10-08-2017 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22028619)
See my earlier post cause I stated exactly this. :winkwink:

We are discussing authorship and proof here, not the legality of his production. Even if the video is produced without the permission of the depicted persons that does not mean there are no authorship laws applied. He still is an author of that. Murdering a murderer does not make murder legal.

Have you been in the US lately, murdering a murderer is a national sport...:1orglaugh my point was however trying to convince judge or jury..." Oh yes your Honour I am the creep who did set up the hidden camera in the ladies bathroom, but it is still a work of art and I am entitled to copyright protection"....

Sometime the law is an ass and I do agree with you but my example was before and the new one here still the same... "YOU CANNOT DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE!!"

deonbell 10-09-2017 11:32 PM

Don't make media content. Music, Movies, Porn. Time to move on.

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ruff 10-10-2017 08:17 AM

I've never had any issues with xHamster removing copyrighted material. They have always responded to me in a timely fashion. I'd just like to put that out there.


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