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not Russia not Russians and not Stalin but Catalonia thread
During Stalin's time from guys like you in EU make this ))
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what is this ? what do you mean ? i don't understand ? English, please...
[once again - I don't think that YOU as a Russian supporter of Stalin and even bigger supporter of Putin you have ANY right WHATSOEVER to teach others about democracy :-) :-) ]Comment
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Bit different, as much as they claim, they have never really been their own country, they were part of the kingdom of Aragon. that merged with Castille.PP is a "legendary" party when it goes to corruption levels there..so wonder where they do stash their milions...overall its corrupted country as hell, and I think that Catalan referendum and Scottish referendum show a class of their countries, how they did behave....
Anyway I think that both parties will be better together than separated (with a exception of few rich local bonzos)...Rajoy showed how close is he actually to Franco's policies...#LeyMordaza for example
They also voted in favour of the constitutution 40 years ago, that said no region has the right to split.
The PP corruption is mainly at a regional level, I dont think Rajoy is that corrupt, he doesn't really give a shit about wealth. He's quite grounded.
PSOE are just as bad, they creamed billions off Andalucia's unemployment training budget.Comment
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it is country eaten out by corruption..remember the scandal in Royal Family ?......
"local" level of corruption is totally enough to make few fishes bigger....
whole system is rotten, PSOE & PP are basically the same, the only difference is that one of them distanced hard from Franco while other not
Current Spanish gov acts like idiots, they will only fuel pro-independent thinking in CatalunyaComment
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Violence in the streets of Spain
Hundreds of injured...
I hoped it would not come to this even though I was looking forward to the UN double standard...
For the record the violence in Spain is much worse than what we had in Yugo at the beginning...but no "evil Spaniards" comments by the UN like they did with Serbs...how interesting eh?...
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maybe because they didnt do any ethnic cleansing ? [as I'm pretty sure you mean UN naming that way Serbs AFTER the conflict emerged and killed tens of thousands, not before, when they tried for example to block Slovenians from gaining independence..that was no biggy]
few hundreds wouden is nothing....Anyway Madrid shoot itself in a foot, idiots, thats all.Comment
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Catalonia is a region, like I live in the Valencian region & 10mile south of me is Murcia, where Murcian people live.
It is Spain, it´s like the US & the states, or England & it´s counties.
Catalan is Spanish, it´s just a different dialect. Have you heard how northerners in Britain speak or maybe a true country bumpkin from Devon...
You wouldn´t understand if a guy from Devon asked you if you wanted a cup of Tea.
This wanting to be divided is ridiculous and dumbfucked. Maybe we should all divide each others nations by countries, counties & states, why not take it further, because the streets I live in are very clean & tidy but the ones 10mile away are not, maybe not being part of the community all together...
fuck off to anyone wanting division, they should move out, not break the country or state, region or area up. The ark was about being side by side & being together, helping one another.My official site
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The conflict in Yugo was staged...all 3 sides are to blame but the fighting broke out because of planned attacks that were preceded by foreign political intervention...the people of Yugo have very little to do with what happened in the beginning...
My point is that this Catalonia violence is much worse than what we had at the same time, when it became clear that there was a strong chance that the country would break up...milosevic was the bad guy even then when he did nothing at all...before any violence...
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Yep but the royal family dealt with that pretty well, they changed the law so that the royal family could be prosecuted.it is country eaten out by corruption..remember the scandal in Royal Family ?......
"local" level of corruption is totally enough to make few fishes bigger....
whole system is rotten, PSOE & PP are basically the same, the only difference is that one of them distanced hard from Franco while other not
Current Spanish gov acts like idiots, they will only fuel pro-independent thinking in Catalunya
re the old parties, I agree, that's why 2 new parties pulled 40% of the vote in the last election. I cant vote in general elections, but in the regionals I voted for one, the wife the other.
The city I live in now, is run by the IU (communist) and gotta say, they actually do a good job. Wouldn't trust them nationally, but at local level they're great.
The government has handled this badly, but they are following the law, they've been telling them not to do it.
The PP has moved more to the centre in the past few years, so now you have the possiblity of a new extreme right party, The Falange are still kicking about but they get less that .5% of the vote.
But the extreme right are starting to wake up, which is not a good thing.Comment
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heheh I also wouldn't trust commies on national level
Days like today will only make extreme right on both sides get bigger and bigger. Spanish gov could simply let them vote..the outcome could be even remain vote (like in Scotland)..even if they would vote YES, that would be a LONG way to true indpendence...lots of obstacles. and yeah, they could also let them vote and later tell that voting was illegal, as for example, it would require 90% frequency etc. lots of things to do in smarter way...
So why UK let Scotts vote ? different country with different standards I guess
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I don't know, I don't think so. In my opinion your excountry was fucked up by politicans like Karadzic and few others from all sides of the conflict. They wanted to gte more milk to themselves, and it all resulted in what it resulted. Anyways, now it seems that most of the parties are happy (Croatia, Montenegro,Slovenia, Macedonia?, Bosnia), only except Serbia....Comment
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The UK hasn't got a written constitution, everything can be challenged by law.
Spain, including Cataluña in 1978 voted for a constitution that says a region cannot split from Spain.
So to change it you need to change the constitution, and I think all of Spain has to vote on those..Comment
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Yep, Spanish police are not very good at dealing with shit like this. I think the government did something to try and stop the shouts of look they did nothing.. The right is waking up, better to keep them in mainstream politics, than get a new far right party.Comment
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