Report about 2015 media coverage in Germany of the migrant crisis: Surprising results.

[nico-t]

German media were too uncritical in their coverage of the 2015 refugee crisis, giving Angela Merkel?s open-door policy a free pass and failing to represent the legitimate concerns of ordinary people alarmed by the influx, a new study has found.

The report, commissioned by the Otto Brenner Stiftung in Frankfurt, said the coverage was so one-sided that it ended up deepening the ideological rift in Germany between liberals on the one hand and nationalists and conservatives on the other.

newspapers made no attempt to differentiate between rightwing radicals and ordinary people who were left feeling politically insecure or marginalised by the refugee influx. Instead of critical reporting, journalists had merely ?adopted the viewpoint and also the slogans of the political elite?.

https://www.ft.com/content/23e02b76-...f-99f383b09ff9

The study, led by Michael Haller, a former senior editor at weekly newspaper Die Zeit, is the most comprehensive analysis of how the German media dealt with the migrant crisis.

Suprise surprise!

[nico-t]

And to think todays self proclaimed "resistance" is doing exactly the same: “adopting the viewpoint and also the slogans of the political elite”. Tools and fools of the elite, go shut down some more freedom of speech and burn some more books

[Helix]

politicized media...imagine that

[Barry-xlovecam]

Welcome to the losing side.
Europe has profited from the world's economies and from its cheap labor for a long time.
America is no different -- political power has been in the hands of Americans of Europeans decent for ages.

You do business in the Middle East but don't want to live near their people.
Americans do mucho business in Mexico but don't want to live near Mexicans.

Bigots will bigot and hypocrites will hypocrite.

And fuck you bitchin' about the media -- no one give a fuck. No one with any intelligence accepts all of the viewpoint of any one media -- only stupids -- no shortage of them but then -- who gives a fuck?

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

No one with any intelligence accepts all of the viewpoint of any one media -- only stupids

It's all you do so you calling yourself stupid is spot on for once

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Welcome to the losing side.
Europe has profited from the world's economies and from its cheap labor for a long time.
America is no different -- political power has been in the hands of Americans of Europeans decent for ages.

You do business in the Middle East but don't want to live near their people.
Americans do mucho business in Mexico but don't want to live near Mexicans.

Bigots will bigot and hypocrites will hypocrite.

And fuck you bitchin' about the media -- no one give a fuck. No one with any intelligence accepts all of the viewpoint of any one media -- only stupids -- no shortage of them but then -- who gives a fuck?

I am curious. To which nation do you hold allegiance to? You say you.. you do.. you do
. So i am assuming you are from somewhere other than the nation's being spoken about in this article as well as the one's in your scathing condemnation.

Just curuous is all
What country do you have citizenship in. I had always thought you were American. However based on your verbiage here it looks like that is not the case. That or you have a severe identity crisis playing out in your mind.

[nico-t]

I'm sure madalton and thommy disagree with this "most comprehensive analysis of how the German media dealt with the migrant crisis." Their intelligence goes beyond a "most comprehensive analysis of how the German media dealt with the migrant crisis."

Their opinions based on this lying media trump the "most comprehensive analysis of how the German media dealt with the migrant crisis."

[DraX]

Originally Posted by nico-t

German media were too uncritical in their coverage of the 2015 refugee crisis, giving Angela Merkel?s open-door policy a free pass and failing to represent the legitimate concerns of ordinary people alarmed by the influx, a new study has found.

The report, commissioned by the Otto Brenner Stiftung in Frankfurt, said the coverage was so one-sided that it ended up deepening the ideological rift in Germany between liberals on the one hand and nationalists and conservatives on the other.

newspapers made no attempt to differentiate between rightwing radicals and ordinary people who were left feeling politically insecure or marginalised by the refugee influx. Instead of critical reporting, journalists had merely ?adopted the viewpoint and also the slogans of the political elite?.

https://www.ft.com/content/23e02b76-...f-99f383b09ff9

The study, led by Michael Haller, a former senior editor at weekly newspaper Die Zeit, is the most comprehensive analysis of how the German media dealt with the migrant crisis.

Suprise surprise!

Good report, for everyone with open eyes it didn't come out as a surprise though. This is just a confirmation for us. But what about the left and liberals, how do they react? Nothing....they gonna either reject it as pure lies or gonna start over-analyzing it to death until there is no truth left in the report.

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Welcome to the losing side.
Europe has profited from the world's economies and from its cheap labor for a long time.
America is no different -- political power has been in the hands of Americans of Europeans decent for ages.

You do business in the Middle East but don't want to live near their people.
Americans do mucho business in Mexico but don't want to live near Mexicans.

Bigots will bigot and hypocrites will hypocrite.

And fuck you bitchin' about the media -- no one give a fuck. No one with any intelligence accepts all of the viewpoint of any one media -- only stupids -- no shortage of them but then -- who gives a fuck?

I give a fuck, I care...

And regarding political power, middle east and Africa have always been a mess. Just a dumb liberal would state what you just stated. They run their own countries, they have power but most still fail apart from a few cause of corruption, chaos and undemocratic systems. Not that I praise the democracy we have in Europe today in any way. These countries need to develop by themselves, not escape to Europe for a better financial situation. Europe and USA have pumped money into Africa last centuries, for what?

And you want to give more power to those who can't handle power. We all seen what has happened with south Africa since black got power. I always favored aid and relief from our countries but it needs to go to the people in terms of development, jobs. They need to start somewhere, but most of the aid goes to the hands of corrupt politicians.

[Barry-xlovecam]

My allegiance is to the world.
If you can't see beyond your borders you are a fucking fool.
Don't take any income from other countries if you are a nationalist -- drown in your own shit.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

My allegiance is to the world.
If you can't see beyond your borders you are a fucking fool.
Don't take any income from other countries if you are a nationalist -- drown in your own shit.

Great fantasy black & white view. You sound like katy perry. "Terror attacks? We just have to, like, get rid of borders, like, coexist"

Your unrealistic views of the world are like a child thinking we are all one big happy family... "border control? Let everyone in by the millions, if you are against that you want to be completely isolated from everyone, dont do business with other countries and never go on vacation anymore!!!"
Must be very simple to only think in extremes, everything in between is not an option for simpletons like you.

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

My allegiance is to the world.

You're in for a nasty surprise when you find out that the world's allegiance isn't to you.

Once the POC's figure that they're being played, they'll see you as no different to a colonialist in blackface.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

My allegiance is to the world.

The world will fuck you up the ass without a moments fault.

It's between the top 1% and the rest.

Mass migration aids the 1%. And fucks the 50%. With the rest doing no better or a little worse.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

And fuck you bitchin' about the media -- no one give a fuck. No one with any intelligence accepts all of the viewpoint of any one media -- only stupids -- no shortage of them but then -- who gives a fuck?

The problem is, all the stupids adopt the media narrative of their choice... most stupids (on either traditional 'side') vocalise their retardness, which leaves no room for the sensible people to have rational discourse. So yeah, bitching about the media needs to be done, as much as the media need to *properly* bitch about politicians. No single or collective with as much power as politicians or the media wield, should go unchecked.

2 examples of the UK immigration 'discussion', which of course means 'questioning unchecked immigration is racist', 'we are a melting pot dammit', and 'it will cost us money if we start to introduce checked immigration' that the left media championed like fuck, and the right media foretold the apocalypse... rather than factual reporting and any old-fashioned 'cause' they may have stood for before $$$ and clicks were the end goal:

left wing newspapers:

Labour made a 'spectacular mistake' on immigration, admits Jack Straw - Telegraph

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-mistake-poles

Tony Blair admits he did not realise how many migrants would come to the UK after EU expandedÂ*

right wing paper (a shitrag tbh, and I'm not a lefty), though who knows if the claims in the book are true:

Tony Blair biography reveals PM's conspiracy to silence immigration debate* | Daily Mail Online

Point being, yes the media 100% deserve any bitching that comes their way... politicians are bad enough, the media is even worse. Who cares if the non 'stupids' don't fall for their shit... the lowest common denominator fucks it up for everyone else, and that's who the media aim for, for both $$ and for thought-sway.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Helix

politicized media...imagine that

innit

[Jel]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Great fantasy black & white view. You sound like katy perry. "Terror attacks? We just have to, like, get rid of borders, like, coexist"

Your unrealistic views of the world are like a child thinking we are all one big happy family... "border control? Let everyone in by the millions, if you are against that you want to be completely isolated from everyone, dont do business with other countries and never go on vacation anymore!!!"
Must be very simple to only think in extremes, everything in between is not an option for simpletons like you.

Insane isn't it. I far from agree with everything you write (and far from disagree with everything either), but at least you can understand there are nuances, facets, opposing views, different ideas on how to accomplish things without 'death to all blacks' or 'homos should be shot at birth' or whatever shit some people here seem to think any opposing viewpoint/idea means.

I used to think that seeing all angles/sides to problems/conflicts/discussions was a 'bad' quality of mine, but as I grow older I'm seeing the 'bad' part is blindly sticking to a black & white view, refusing to acknowledge the other persons' grievances, and spitting out hatred and names rather than just fucking accept that just like we should 'all co-exist because we are all different', we all have differing experiences and thoughts, without being automatically extreme-right or extreme-left.

Some days it boggles my mind that so many people just can't put themselves in another person's shoes (including those of eg immigrants who want a better life... fuck, who wouldn't? If I was them I'd be trying like mad to make sure me and my family got somewhere better), other days I remember that we ARE all different, and probably practice more tolerance than the self-proclaimed 'tolerant' do by not doing a thommy and ranting about how anyone who thinks differently to him should die

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Great fantasy black & white view. You sound like katy perry. "Terror attacks? We just have to, like, get rid of borders, like, coexist"

Your unrealistic views of the world are like a child thinking we are all one big happy family... "border control? Let everyone in by the millions, if you are against that you want to be completely isolated from everyone, dont do business with other countries and never go on vacation anymore!!!"
Must be very simple to only think in extremes, everything in between is not an option for simpletons like you.

You are the only one who has turned this into a black and white issue. Not one nation, NOT ONE, is saying they want to open their borders to MILLIONS or an unlimited amount of immigrants. This has never been stated by anyone but people like you. Scared that some immigrants coming into your nation will change it forever. It isn't happening, it wont happen and it will pass over, just like your anger towards them.

Our country has always been pretty open for immigrants and our country has flourished in this time. Not because of them, with growth there is good and bad, but we weren't deterred by this growth either.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

You are the only one who has turned this into a black and white issue. Not one nation, NOT ONE, is saying they want to open their borders to MILLIONS or an unlimited amount of immigrants. This has never been stated by anyone but people like you. Scared that some immigrants coming into your nation will change it forever. It isn't happening, it wont happen and it will pass over, just like your anger towards them.

Our country has always been pretty open for immigrants and our country has flourished in this time. Not because of them, with growth there is good and bad, but we weren't deterred by this growth either.

tbf, the UK had an open door, unlimited EU immigration policy. Still might, I don't care enough about the issue to have kept up

[DraX]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

You are the only one who has turned this into a black and white issue. Not one nation, NOT ONE, is saying they want to open their borders to MILLIONS or an unlimited amount of immigrants. This has never been stated by anyone but people like you. Scared that some immigrants coming into your nation will change it forever. It isn't happening, it wont happen and it will pass over, just like your anger towards them.

Our country has always been pretty open for immigrants and our country has flourished in this time. Not because of them, with growth there is good and bad, but we weren't deterred by this growth either.

How many western women needs to be vagina plundered before it just passes over?

How has the life changed for a 12 year old girl, out walking, minding her own business and suddenly assaulted and raped by a refugee?

Let me guess, these women and girls are just collateral damage from a globalistic perspective...

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Great fantasy black & white view. You sound like katy perry. "Terror attacks? We just have to, like, get rid of borders, like, coexist"

Your unrealistic views of the world are like a child thinking we are all one big happy family... "border control? Let everyone in by the millions, if you are against that you want to be completely isolated from everyone, dont do business with other countries and never go on vacation anymore!!!"
Must be very simple to only think in extremes, everything in between is not an option for simpletons like you.

That was the first thing I thought of too when I read his posts - what a very child-like view of world politics.

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

Scared that some immigrants coming into your nation will change it forever. It isn't happening, it wont happen and it will pass over, just like your anger towards them.

There are some British towns you should visit.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

You are the only one who has turned this into a black and white issue. Not one nation, NOT ONE, is saying they want to open their borders to MILLIONS or an unlimited amount of immigrants. This has never been stated by anyone but people like you. Scared that some immigrants coming into your nation will change it forever. It isn't happening, it wont happen and it will pass over, just like your anger towards them.

Our country has always been pretty open for immigrants and our country has flourished in this time. Not because of them, with growth there is good and bad, but we weren't deterred by this growth either.

wrong. Merkel said exactly that when it started. She invited them all to Europe, not only germany, because when one of the leading figures of the EU says this, it is policy for all of the EU. None of the EU countries could do their own border controls because our 'leaders' are all EU lapdogs, except for Hungary. Their leader is the only one with balls, which is why EU officials are now starting to demonize him as well. An EU official said that he should be stopped - a democratically elected leader chosen by the people of Hungary, and the EU wants him gone. Sickening, disgusting and ignoring democracy - as usual:
https://twitter.com/GuyVerhofstadt/s...14908872294400

Since the open invitation, literally millions of immigrants have come to the EU and turkey. In 2015 and 2016 roughly 1,4 million to the EU (recorded ones that is!! So a lot more in reality) and til now over 3 million alone in turkey, of which a large number will eventually travel further into the EU as well.

You're comparing Canada to Europe. Canada doesn't border islamic war zones and other islamic countries full of people abusing the refugee crisis to go to your country for money. When you border countries that share your values, immigration can let a country help flourish. But you are comparing apples and oranges - this migrant crisis is already having the opposite effects, from general tension between a tolerant culture and an intolerant culture in every way, to multiple terror attacks killing people across Europe. How flourishing.