Damn...is this another site without the smarts to make it without screwing the customer...

On page one of their sign-up page, go to the Terms & Conditions...you will find this little nugget:

"Memberships will consist of the Free trial provided by CCBill to the main site chosen, plus an automatic subscription to Nudes Live Online billed at $19.95 monthly"

This is the only time I can find this mentioned. If this is really true, I still have to ask... how do you scum fool yourselfs into thinking you are businessmen, when really you are nothing more then fraudelent crooks.

Steal from one person and you're a crook. Steal from thousands and you're a businessman.

And thats the truth.

Nah..it still makes you a scamming crook...

funny but has a bit of truth attached to it

:glugglug

Our web designed didn't update the terms page properly. he has been slapped.

Swoit is a simply $33.95 subscription - no upsells, no cross sells, no tricks.

Good to hear it...In that case, I will be trying some traffic to your program over the next few days.

Maybe AVN gave it to them.

Internext gets info and gives it to people. Maybe this is the case here?

Do you think I would start a CE "bash" thread for no reason? No...

I'll send my headers to anyone that wants to ICQ me about it...

CE, CE cash whatever like I know the difference... Maybe i'm retarded I thought fantasyman ran CE... anyway yeah Steve it's not a big deal... but I'm over the whole "let's delete 500 emails/day" -- you know once my box is fucked by SWOIT whatever the fuck it is called -- you know the shit gets sold to a bazillion other lame ass fucking programs and then I'm wasting all kinds of fucking time editing my goddamn email account. Yes -- so it does fucking piss me the fuck off... if I have to spend 30 minutes editing a buch of fucking email box parameters on the control panel of my host -- that's time I'd rather be fucking some ho...

Anyway I'm over it... But you can see my point. What's even worse is that I use this domain ONLY for webmaster programs -- all my junk mail goes to another location... I'm very careful about my email and where it comes from... What's the worse is when the fucking spammers invent new aliases on your domain -- that is the worst fucking shit... That's hours and hours of wasted fucking labor on my part re-signing up for every program I belong to after the worms start launching... so yes it IS a big fucking deal.

Well, neither my email that I used to join CE, nor my email that is or was on Pornojunkies or with Platinum got spammed.

Anyone sitting around trying to figure out how Aussies get email names might as well be trying to figure out if the sky really is blue. It happens, such is life.

Don't fucking insult my intelligence.

rofl

:1orglaugh

ah i just peed.

nudeslive :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

i just peed too.

:glugglug

You guys must be EXTREMELY bored. :1orglaugh

I'm gonna go count the stones in the sidealk. I'll keep ya up to date. :winkwink:

Don't take things personally, especially if you aren't sure they were aimed at you.

But my comment stands. I'm friends with several Aussies and do business with even more.

Their email lists no longer amaze me, I simply expect they have nearly all of them. Maybe it's magic, maybe it's not. I don't waste my time figuring out how they get them.

i used one email for about 5 sponsors.

its not hard to narrow it down.

i like when big boys spam.

ive seen some of the people in this thread condemn spam, and hit me on a secret email days later.

hahaha

as if your webmasters arent smarter than you?

fucking tards.

Hello All:

I have been watching this thread and many others similar to this on other boards, I just want take this moment to re-confirm that we have nothing to do with this particular company called swoit.com.

I cannot speak for FantasyMan, however, if you got spammed from an email specifically used for PornoJunkies I apologize. WE do not sell our webmaster email list. Please keep in mind that our list is our "gold". It is not in our best interest to sell these email addresses as it competes against our own products or our sponsors products.

For all those working with Platinumbucks or any of our products, I am confident that you know that we are honest and professional. More importantly we respect your privacy and confidentiality as it is our own.

I'm right there with you Fletch. I just searched for 'swoit' in my email archives (I don't throw anything away) and I see it too... hrmmm.

you are doing a good enough job of that yourself

I am very sorry CE that you are copping so much shit for this ... you must be stewing by now, i know i would be.

theFLY ...
as much as i'd love to see another program take some of the heat away (especially FM's program :Graucho ), I'm not sure how you got so far off base ...

None of the CE programs have sold or shared lists with swoit ...

Ok it's all my fault... Never mind. I'm going to sleep so lock the fucking thread I could give a shit.

cj,

Thanks for the support. In case anyone is wondering why FM has not responded himself, he is out of town getting some well deserved R&R.

If anyone has any questions please contact me on icq 29734419. If someone still thinks we had something to do with that mailing please icq me your email address and I'll reply with every IP that's viewed your stats and account information.

Regards,

Mike B

Ron (Fantasyman) isn't into spamming.

If your getting spammed on your CE emails, they were probably stolen by one of his ex/web hosts or ex/employees in the past or something. But from what I know of Fantasyman, he wouldn't be involved like that.

And you can trust that if FM was involved with Swoit, he would be all for a real legitimate PAID public advertising campaign. Ie.. advertising banners everywhere in industry magazines an on the popular resource sites etc. Not to mention that he would be the first person to come to GFY and say "Hey guys, check out this hot new site Swoit were partnered up with"

FM isn't afraid to spend money on projects that make sense to him - and we all know he does alright ;)

Anyway.. that's my :2 cents:

You know - I have now figured out that I am a dickhead

I have been offered so many webmaster lists, and each time I say -" nahhhh, they will get the shits with me if I spam 'em"

But Swoit comes out and spams us all with the same lists I have had in my hot litle hands, and every fucker out there bitches and complains on umpteen dozen fucking threads bitching and moaning about being spammed.

And all the while, Swoit is lapping up the free promo

Honestly people - you are making me reconsider my marketing techniques, as these Swoit people have so dominated our thoughts today, that even Kimmy Kims nude thread will get beaten

I am now leaving this thread and moving back onto my business

PS - Kimmy, if you dont send me those photos I am going to post that one photo I have of you girl - Muahahaha

I use CEcash, Platinum Bucks, Silvercash and Topbucks, and I didn't get any email about swoit, so not all emails got that message, it is probably an error.

Never knew you have intelligence at all...

seems all the big guys lists were involved in one way or another.... willing or unwillingly remains to be seen, but I can guarantee you that more than likely nobody will end up knowing the truth, I dont care how reputable the person is or how much of a buddy he is that owns this 'big' program....... they will all lie....

can you blame them tho?

I hit delete. Maybe I did have to hit delete about 8 times over 8 mailboxes but it was a simple click and poof it dissappeared.


What I wanna know is who is selling or trading webmaster email addresses for plain porn spam. That is pissing me off. If we get mad about anything it should be that instead of a fucking webmaster program notice that is actually business related.

Which one of you sons a bitches is trading or selling webmaster email addresses and mixing them into your general surfer address lists!?!?!

as i said.

i know for a fact SPONSORS in this thread that have DENOUNCED spamming have indeed spammed meand i smile inside everytime i see them deny such actions.

its fun to watch people dance.


kinda like christians at church. they act the part but they arent worth of salvation.

nor are some of the sponsors who shrug off spamming.

hicks cant hide red necks.


:glugglug

The CE database used to be on an unpassword mysql server with global access.. until a friend of mine pointed it out to them. This is '99 though.

couldnt have been pj's

i didnt get any spam and they have my addy

:thumbsup

man i took you long enough

we alll figured that out after your first post

Just got back from Maui on Spring Break with my son.

Here's all I have to say......

FACT
We have nothing to do with this swoit whatsoever.

FACT
We have never sold our Webmaster list.

FACT
CE has always, I repeat, ALWAYS been against spam in any way, shape or fashion to consumers or webmasters.

FACT
CE has paid out millions in their double opt-in email lists to be able to send out mail, spam free.

nuff said :)

case closed