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Old 04-22-2003, 02:12 PM   #1
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Banners.spotbrokers.com announcement

April 22, 2003, somewhere on the World Wide Web --

Spotbrokers.com announces the release of Bannerclix! The innovative new way to buy and sell non-gallery traffic for paysites, tgps, AVS, any site in need of traffic in any quantity. As many of you are aware, we?ve been oversold on non-gallery traffic for quite some time now -- with the introduction of Bannerclix we will again be able to offer filtered, non-hitbot, clicked uniques at reasonable prices -- traffic that can be sent to paysite tours, tgps, you name it!!! We have added traffic in some categories we don't support in the gallery program like celeb to Bannerclix, making it the most flexible traffic flow system in the adult space.

For sellers, Bannerclix can be used on any type of site; you simply substitute our code in place of any banner on the page, after collecting the unique code from the generator. Buyers then bid on banner clicks by category and GEOGRAPHIC region ? making this the obvious choice for site owners looking for specifically targeted traffic to suit their needs! There are very few limits on who can purchase traffic and what sites they can send it to, but please review the terms prior to purchase.

For more information on buying or selling traffic thru the Bannerclix system, please check out http://banners.spotbrokers.com
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Old 04-22-2003, 02:13 PM   #2
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Old 04-22-2003, 02:13 PM   #3
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Looks like good stuff Kimmy

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Old 04-22-2003, 02:19 PM   #4
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Sounds very good! add stormpay to the list of pay options and I'm game
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Old 04-22-2003, 02:22 PM   #5
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Sounds very good! add stormpay to the list of pay options and I'm game
Sorry 2d, when it comes to money we only deal with companies that we know and trust, and Paypal as well.
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Old 04-22-2003, 02:22 PM   #6
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Old 04-22-2003, 02:23 PM   #7
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Some details..

Currently we only have 3 banner sizes active.. 468x60, 468x80 and 120x60 - they're the most common ones of course.

We have about 15 other sizes waiting in the wings, 6 of which will be activated within a week if all goes well.. (To activate a size, we need a few banners for every size and category, plus a paysite to send it to).

Categories, we don't have all of them in place yet.. I had to trim about 30 off the final product due to inadequate banners. If we don't have your category and you have or can provide a good affiliate program and a few banners for every size, we'll add the category.

EDIT: I should also point out that you upload your banners to us, there is no "generic" banners that we use, it's all your banners as the buyers. Our filler is just the banners from every big paysite program we could get to send us all their banners. ;>

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Old 04-22-2003, 02:42 PM   #8
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Is this system Sunny Dollars proof?
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Old 04-22-2003, 02:43 PM   #9
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Is this system Sunny Dollars proof?
What is Sunny Dollars proof and I'll tell you.
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Old 04-22-2003, 02:47 PM   #10
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Geo targets allow you to specify where you want your traffic to come from. Different geo targets will have different bidding rates. <This is explained poorly. It should be rewritten by either you or me>
Might wanna take out this section on the Geotargetting page hon:

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This is explained poorly. It should be rewritten by either you or me
Looking good though

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Old 04-22-2003, 02:50 PM   #11
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LOL Lee, you are absolutely right ;)
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Old 04-22-2003, 02:53 PM   #12
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Which categories are currently available? I looked and mine are not...
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Which categories are currently available? I looked and mine are not...
What are your categories? I will make up a page that will show them all.
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Old 04-22-2003, 02:58 PM   #14
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AWESOME!!!

Cant wait to try it out.

How are you guys stocked on goat sex traffic?
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Old 04-22-2003, 02:59 PM   #15
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Old 04-22-2003, 03:00 PM   #16
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Old 04-22-2003, 03:01 PM   #17
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QUOTE]What is Sunny Dollars proof and I'll tell you.[/QUOTE]
When you were at ccbill, they hacked my stats page over a six month period - Even tho I changed the password every month.
You wouldn't give me the logs to do them - Allowing them to get away with it and do thousands of other webmasters.
I am still trying to work out how it was my fault (your words)
I guess all the other webmasters were at fault, too?
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Old 04-22-2003, 03:01 PM   #18
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Old 04-22-2003, 03:04 PM   #19
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QUOTE]What is Sunny Dollars proof and I'll tell you.

When you were at ccbill, they hacked my stats page over a six month period - Even tho I changed the password every month.
You wouldn't give me the logs to do them - Allowing them to get away with it and do thousands of other webmasters.
I am still trying to work out how it was my fault (your words)
I guess all the other webmasters were at fault, too?
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When I was at CCBill I am sure I told you, just like I told other people that asked for things that we were contractually unable to provide without a court order, to go and get one.

Of course it's been almost a year since I was at CCBill you know... and I still don't know that you ever proved anything other than your persistence in asking for something you were well aware of how to get.
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I just get "non unified" when I bid.

ICQ me 17249164
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Old 04-22-2003, 03:11 PM   #21
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I damn well got a cout order - The logs showing sunny dollars hacking couldn't be found by ccbill -
You and Tom Fisher were the only ones who had the details about it - You left and Fisher suffers memory loss.

If someone steals - You shouldn't help them....
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Old 04-22-2003, 03:15 PM   #22
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Kimmy will we be able to transfer our money made on spotbrokers to the banner program?
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If you got a court order, then you'd have been dealing with Tom Fisher at that point, not me. While I no longer work at CCBill I do know that they have never failed to comply with a legal order to produce information, when signed by a judge.
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Kimmy will we be able to transfer our money made on spotbrokers to the banner program?
Now y'all know I'm a technical dunce. But I'd bet Backov can help you
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I just get "non unified" when I bid.

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That would be most likely because your site doesn't have a category - you need to have at least one category to bid on one. ;>
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Kimmy will we be able to transfer our money made on spotbrokers to the banner program?
I haven't coded it yet, but I can and most likely will. They're seperate systems right now, but they can talk a bit.
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I was only dealing with you and a guy called Mark -
You both showed me sunny dollars had entered my ccbill stats page 215 times over a six month period -

You wouldn't give me the logs - So I took you emails, Marks and Tom Fishers's to court and was given access -

But all the proof, ccbill no longer had - Yours, Marks' and TF emails prooved it once existed.

So what happened to it?

If you want scumbags running the adultside of the internet - You let them -
And you certainly did.

So how much did you rake out of it?

You have a nice traffic program going - I wouldn't purchase one hit from it -
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Old 04-22-2003, 03:42 PM   #28
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AWESOME!!!

Cant wait to try it out.

How are you guys stocked on goat sex traffic?
There's going to be a war!!! Damn you Gary!!!

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Ok, fire putting out completed..

We have Asian, but what the hell is AutoBukkake?
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easyfun, sunnydollars hacked your account?
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I hope you are using some of my banners for gothic banner-click traffic.
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and Kimmykim congratulations for the good job


do you accept dialers as well?
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You are paid on a per click basis, based on what the buyers are bidding for the category, banner size and geographic type of traffic that you have visiting your site.
What is the percentage of what i'll get paid on a per click basis?

Someone contact me #45580484 i'd like to know more :c)
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do you accept dialers as well?
Yep dialers are cool as long as there's no JS or ActiveX exploits involved. ;>
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What is the percentage of what i'll get paid on a per click basis?

Someone contact me #45580484 i'd like to know more :c)
50% is the percentage. This is all completely new to us (and everyone), so that's what it is right now.

At 50% interestingly enough, we JUST break even on the bandwidth at the minimum bid for the good regions, and lose money on the bad ones. ;>

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Backov,what's the max kb size for a banner? I didn't find anything in the members area, im not sure if it's mention when i'll try to upload one later on
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Backov,what's the max kb size for a banner? I didn't find anything in the members area, im not sure if it's mention when i'll try to upload one later on
Depends on the type - I am working on a few informational screens like that one, it's pretty bare bones right now. I think it's pretty large for the 468s, like 40-50k..

It'll bounce your banner if it's too big, don't worry. ;>
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I was only dealing with you and a guy called Mark -
You both showed me sunny dollars had entered my ccbill stats page 215 times over a six month period -

You wouldn't give me the logs - So I took you emails, Marks and Tom Fishers's to court and was given access -

But all the proof, ccbill no longer had - Yours, Marks' and TF emails prooved it once existed.

So what happened to it?

If you want scumbags running the adultside of the internet - You let them -
And you certainly did.

So how much did you rake out of it?

You have a nice traffic program going - I wouldn't purchase one hit from it -
You know what buddy, if you'd like to start a thread about CCBill, no one is stopping you. THIS thread is not about CCBill. Though someone hacking your account 215 times in 6 months is not hacking, it's too incredible to believe. Unless you changed your password 214 times. As for someone 'raking out of it' now you are really out in left field, but that's fine as well. Now, if you'd like to continue on telling me how you won't buy traffic because we suck, we don't have goat sex fast enough for Gary, or you just think I'm a gold digging, arrogant, narcistic, useless bitch, then carry on.

I'm headed out to a meeting for a charity I'm involved in locally, our biggest benefit of the year is this weekend and we have a run thru at Symphony Hall in less than an hour.

But I will be back, so you can have at it.
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Awsome! Selling some spots now....
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You know what buddy, if you'd like to start a thread about CCBill, no one is stopping you. THIS thread is not about CCBill. Though someone hacking your account 215 times in 6 months is not hacking, it's too incredible to believe. Unless you changed your password 214 times. As for someone 'raking out of it' now you are really out in left field, but that's fine as well. Now, if you'd like to continue on telling me how you won't buy traffic because we suck, we don't have goat sex fast enough for Gary, or you just think I'm a gold digging, arrogant, narcistic, useless bitch, then carry on.

I'm headed out to a meeting for a charity I'm involved in locally, our biggest benefit of the year is this weekend and we have a run thru at Symphony Hall in less than an hour.

But I will be back, so you can have at it.
I just have one question:

Why is it, that in almost every thread I see your name in, there's always a conflict concerning your reputation's validity?

I'm just curious.
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I just have one question:

Why is it, that in almost every thread I see your name in, there's always a conflict concerning your reputation's validity?

I'm just curious.
People in this industry know who Kimmy is and don't have a problem doing biz with her. That says a lot. People in this biz respect Kimmy, for good reason.

When you're in a position of any responsibility for any length of time, there's ALWAYS going to be people that have a beef with you, justified or otherwise.

Do a search for Kimmykim on this board. There's 2071 threads with her name in them. Feel free to do a sampling.
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Old 04-22-2003, 06:16 PM   #44
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Do a search for Kimmykim on this board. There's 2071 threads with her name in them. Feel free to do a sampling.
That's what I was referring to.
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Old 04-22-2003, 06:23 PM   #45
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That's what I was referring to.
And I was referring to your completely unsubstantiated claim. As I said, feel free to do a sampling.
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Old 04-22-2003, 06:30 PM   #46
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completely unsubstantiated claim
Ok.
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Old 04-22-2003, 06:55 PM   #47
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i got everything up very fast
one request for the future to have in mind and if possible to add.....

at least for the european countries the geotarget i believe should allow the buer to put a separate banner/link for each one of them. So we could work with german,italian,spanish etc banners and achive better results and higher CTR.
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Old 04-22-2003, 07:05 PM   #48
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i got everything up very fast
one request for the future to have in mind and if possible to add.....

at least for the european countries the geotarget i believe should allow the buer to put a separate banner/link for each one of them. So we could work with german,italian,spanish etc banners and achive better results and higher CTR.
Yep I understand the problem - the issue is that doing that kind of screws up the whole system. It's a difficult algorithm, and having the countries overlap (as they would have to for individual countries) - makes things rough.

I've been thinking about a solution though and will continue to do so.

Cheers,
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Old 04-22-2003, 07:05 PM   #49
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Old 04-22-2003, 10:16 PM   #50
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That's what I was referring to.
LOL, I'm waiting.
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