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  • AaronM
    GFY Royality ;)
    • Oct 2001
    • 46923

    #1

    Can You Trust Your Content Provider?

    The following is a list of content providers who's sites have been reviewed for 2257 Compliance information.

    If the Content Provider listed is compliant with U.S. Law then I have also linked their listing to their respective sites. Since the majority of this list was retrieved from adult-contentprovider.com, I have left their referral codes in place where applicable.

    If I have overlooked your 2257 info then please feel free to contact me and show me where I can verify it so that I may make corrections as necessary.

    With the recent additions to the laws surrounding 2257, it is now more important than ever to make sure that we are all protected. If you are purchasing content licenses from a provider who is not even covering his own ass then how can you expect that he will cover yours if and when the time comes?

    Please keep in mind that not all of these companies are located in the U.S. so they may not be required by their own laws to keep the same records as U.S. companies. However, just because their laws do not have the same requirements for them does not mean that the U.S. laws so not require it from you.

    Here is a link to this info. If any valid mistakes are reported to me then I will update this page as needed.

    One final note. This listing is probably going to piss off a lot of people since several of these providers post to this and other webmaster boards. Before you go and flick me shit...Keep in mind that you are the one responsible for your own company, not me. If you do not have an attorney then I suggest you retain one and get your shit in order. Talk to J.D. from xxxlaw.net before it is too late.
  • Steve
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2001
    • 6894

    #2
    I smell an xbox

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    • Steve
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2001
      • 6894

      #3
      also, thanks for the very useful info, Aaron - this will come in handy

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      • ldinternet
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2001
        • 8245

        #4
        AMPContent links to http;//www.ampcontent.com/

        Just an FYI.

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        • AaronM
          GFY Royality ;)
          • Oct 2001
          • 46923

          #5
          Originally posted by ldinternet
          AMPContent links to http;//www.ampcontent.com/

          Just an FYI.
          Old news...but thanks.

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          • ry0t
            So Fucking Banned
            • Feb 2003
            • 4160

            #6
            Aaron is the man!

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            • LadyMischief
              Orgasms N Such!
              • Sep 2002
              • 18135

              #7
              Awesome job man.. it's about time someone actually compiled a list like this ;) Maybe people will pay a little more attention to the law if they're "called out" so to speak. Would be a nice thing to see.

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              • Brujah
                Beer Money Baron
                • Jan 2001
                • 22157

                #8
                So it's a list of all the illegal content providers ? In violation of federal law ? Tsk tsk.

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                • jact
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 9134

                  #9
                  Some of those not compliant jobs blow me away.
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                  • Dawgy
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 5856

                    #10
                    what is the link to current 2257 laws, id like to read it again.

                    ive seen several posted but my search for 2257 turned up so many results i dont have time to search them all for the link...
                    the revolution is coming.

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                    • ry0t
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 4160

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dawgy
                      what is the link to current 2257 laws, id like to read it again.

                      ive seen several posted but my search for 2257 turned up so many results i dont have time to search them all for the link...
                      woofmedia is expired just thought I'd give you a heads up.

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                      • gothweb
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 8849

                        #12
                        I have my 2257 info in my license, and I believe I am well compliant. I would be curious to see if you agree, and to be added to the list. I certainly do everything I can to be compliant.

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                        • MCsteve-matrix
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                          • Jan 2003
                          • 341

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dawgy
                          what is the link to current 2257 laws, id like to read it again.

                          ive seen several posted but my search for 2257 turned up so many results i dont have time to search them all for the link...
                          Here you go... 2257

                          its a pdf file.
                          MC Steve

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                          • Rockstar
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 333

                            #14
                            Hi AaronM

                            I am curious as to how we are in violation of any 2257 laws when we include BOTH model ID's and Model releases with our content purchases.
                            We are very concerned if we are in voliation and we would also appreciate any help you can offer

                            Thanks
                            Rockstar
                            http://www.faproductions.com
                            ICQ - 177606166

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                            • MichaelAncher
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 742

                              #15
                              If you had checked my cover/index site, you would have noticed that Glamourgirls fully complie to 2275...please check and correct.
                              Cheers
                              Michael

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                              • AaronM
                                GFY Royality ;)
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 46923

                                #16
                                Originally posted by gothweb
                                I have my 2257 info in my license, and I believe I am well compliant. I would be curious to see if you agree, and to be added to the list. I certainly do everything I can to be compliant.
                                I will check it out.

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                                • AaronM
                                  GFY Royality ;)
                                  • Oct 2001
                                  • 46923

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Rockstar
                                  Hi AaronM

                                  I am curious as to how we are in violation of any 2257 laws when we include BOTH model ID's and Model releases with our content purchases.
                                  We are very concerned if we are in voliation and we would also appreciate any help you can offer

                                  Thanks
                                  Rockstar
                                  http://www.faproductions.com
                                  What? Am I your attorney now? Ask him.

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                                  • Rockstar
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 333

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by AaronM


                                    What? Am I your attorney now? Ask him.
                                    Wow thanks for all your help.............
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                                    • AaronM
                                      GFY Royality ;)
                                      • Oct 2001
                                      • 46923

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by MichaelAncher
                                      If you had checked my cover/index site, you would have noticed that Glamourgirls fully complie to 2275...please check and correct.
                                      Cheers
                                      Michael

                                      They day you become compliant and notify me then I will fix it.

                                      You are NOT compliant.

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                                      • Gary
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2001
                                        • 6110

                                        #20
                                        Theres nothing more fun than content providers eating their own. LOL

                                        Its like watching vultures work on a corpse.

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                                        • Brujah
                                          Beer Money Baron
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 22157

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Rockstar


                                          Wow thanks for all your help.............
                                          Just sue him for libel. He said you're running an illegal content business in violation of federal law and by making a list, people are discouraged from purchasing from you.

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                                          • EscortBiz
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                                            • May 2002
                                            • 19422

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Rockstar
                                            Hi AaronM

                                            I am curious as to how we are in violation of any 2257 laws when we include BOTH model ID's and Model releases with our content purchases.
                                            We are very concerned if we are in voliation and we would also appreciate any help you can offer

                                            Thanks
                                            Rockstar
                                            http://www.faproductions.com
                                            Section 2.1b
                                            Content provider shall sell content at a rate greater then $2257

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                                            • basschick
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                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 2540

                                              #23
                                              Rockstar, do you have the i.d. in your primary place of business and available to law enforcement during business hours? are the i.d.s organized by shoot so you can easily find them?

                                              your front page says custodial info is available by request, but the law says the custodian address must be given in a prominant place on the website. perhaps that is the problem. if you make them ask you, you're breaking the law.
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                                              • Gary
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                                                • Aug 2001
                                                • 6110

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by EscortBiz


                                                Section 2.1b
                                                Content provider shall sell content at a rate greater then $2257
                                                ROFL!!!!

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                                                • FATPad
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                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 6693

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by AaronM


                                                  What? Am I your attorney now? Ask him.
                                                  I like the idea of the list. Wonder if it'll make it to any resource sites.

                                                  I do think that if you're going to make a list of illegal content producers and showcase it for the world, you might want to let them know what you think is wrong when they ask you.
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                                                  • LadyMischief
                                                    Orgasms N Such!
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 18135

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Gary
                                                    Theres nothing more fun than content providers eating their own. LOL

                                                    Its like watching vultures work on a corpse.

                                                    POPCORN!!!!
                                                    How is it eating their own? He's given a list of those who don't comply AND who do comply. Don't shoot the messenger.. Aaron is doing both these providers AND webmasters a service by showing them they need to be complaint!!

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                                                    • jact
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                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                      • 9134

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by basschick
                                                      Rockstar, do you have the i.d. in your primary place of business and available to law enforcement during business hours? are the i.d.s organized by shoot so you can easily find them?

                                                      your front page says custodial info is available by request, but the law says the custodian address must be given in a prominant place on the website. perhaps that is the problem. if you make them ask you, you're breaking the law.
                                                      Bingo!
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                                                      • Kenneth K
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                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                        • 459

                                                        #28
                                                        Hi Aaron,

                                                        Eventhough we are not required to follow the US law, we still have to follow the Danish ones - our 2257 info can be found here: http://www.1stcontent.com/license.asp

                                                        /Kenneth

                                                        123 Content
                                                        - Formerly known as 1st Content | ICQ: 128732055

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                                                        • FATPad
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 6693

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Brujah


                                                          Just sue him for libel. He said you're running an illegal content business in violation of federal law and by making a list, people are discouraged from purchasing from you.
                                                          If it turns out Aaron is right, there won't be a case for libel.
                                                          <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

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                                                          • AaronM
                                                            GFY Royality ;)
                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                            • 46923

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Rockstar


                                                            Wow thanks for all your help.............
                                                            It's a tough biz, kid.

                                                            When you do not check with an attorney and then do not play by the rules, it has the potential to hurt those of us who do. Do not expect any favors from me.

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                                                            • Gary
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                              • 6110

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by LadyMischief


                                                              How is it eating their own? He's given a list of those who don't comply AND who do comply. Don't shoot the messenger.. Aaron is doing both these providers AND webmasters a service by showing them they need to be complaint!!
                                                              Easy there. Just having fun picturing a 20 page thread of content provider fighting it out. LOL

                                                              I think the list is great. Good job aaron

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                                                              • basschick
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                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 2540

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jact


                                                                Bingo!
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                                                                • AaronM
                                                                  GFY Royality ;)
                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                  • 46923

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Brujah


                                                                  Just sue him for libel. He said you're running an illegal content business in violation of federal law and by making a list, people are discouraged from purchasing from you.
                                                                  Yep...Sue me....Bring the courts attention to your fuck up.

                                                                  After the hearing, they may want to take you into custody though.

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                                                                  • jact
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                    • 9134

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by basschick


                                                                    i got bingo! did i win money!??!?!?! *lol*
                                                                    Sure
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                                                                    • AaronM
                                                                      GFY Royality ;)
                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 46923

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by basschick
                                                                      Rockstar, do you have the i.d. in your primary place of business and available to law enforcement during business hours? are the i.d.s organized by shoot so you can easily find them?

                                                                      your front page says custodial info is available by request, but the law says the custodian address must be given in a prominant place on the website. perhaps that is the problem. if you make them ask you, you're breaking the law.


                                                                      Somebody gets it.

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                                                                      • basschick
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                        • 2540

                                                                        #36
                                                                        for the last year, whenever i go to a new content provider, i write and ask them about their custodian. very often they have it in their homes or offices, and often no one is there during business hours. some use a post office box address. many don't have the custodial info where it can be found.

                                                                        maybe this list will help get these folks legal - some have great content but when i talk to them about their custodian, they have excuses. fuck that!
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                                                                        • Rockstar
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                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                          • 333

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by basschick
                                                                          Rockstar, do you have the i.d. in your primary place of business and available to law enforcement during business hours? are the i.d.s organized by shoot so you can easily find them?

                                                                          your front page says custodial info is available by request, but the law says the custodian address must be given in a prominant place on the website. perhaps that is the problem. if you make them ask you, you're breaking the law.
                                                                          Yes we do have it available to anyone and organised by model and we also INCLUDE this information ie: model id's and model releases for all content sets we sell

                                                                          i can NOT imagine how we are not compliant.
                                                                          But if we are NOT i want to know why and i will have this resolved because i don't see how any of our clients or potenial clients can feel that we are not LEGIT when we provide this information with EACH purchase

                                                                          But we will have that infomation posted this ASAP if that is what we are not doing and thanks for your imput
                                                                          ICQ - 177606166

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                                                                          • jact
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 9134

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by basschick
                                                                            for the last year, whenever i go to a new content provider, i write and ask them about their custodian. very often they have it in their homes or offices, and often no one is there during business hours. some use a post office box address. many don't have the custodial info where it can be found.

                                                                            maybe this list will help get these folks legal - some have great content but when i talk to them about their custodian, they have excuses. fuck that!
                                                                            Too many webmasters are ignorant of the requirements, and a scary amount of content providers are. I'm not subject to 2257 but there's no way in hell I'd take the chance by not complying since most of my customers are US residents.
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                                                                            • AaronM
                                                                              GFY Royality ;)
                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                              • 46923

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Kenneth K
                                                                              Hi Aaron,

                                                                              Eventhough we are not required to follow the US law, we still have to follow the Danish ones - our 2257 info can be found here: http://www.1stcontent.com/license.asp

                                                                              /Kenneth
                                                                              Yes Kenneth, I saw this page but it does not conform to US law.

                                                                              If this is the physical addy of your records AND your custodian of such...Please add his or her name above the address and let me know so I can update your listing.

                                                                              Sankt Pauls Plads 9, kld.
                                                                              1314 Copenhagen K
                                                                              Denmark

                                                                              Before Rockstart bitches....Notice how Kenneth at least made an effort?

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                                                                              • jact
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                • 9134

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Rockstar


                                                                                Yes we do have it available to anyone and organised by model and we also INCLUDE this information ie: model id's and model releases for all content sets we sell

                                                                                i can NOT imagine how we are not compliant.
                                                                                But if we are NOT i want to know why and i will have this resolved because i don't see how any of our clients or potenial clients can feel that we are not LEGIT when we provide this information with EACH purchase

                                                                                But we will have that infomation posted this ASAP if that is what we are not doing and thanks for your imput
                                                                                You have some reading to do. Giving docs don't mean lickity if you aren't following the laws as they're laid out. What, you making the webmasters the custodians now?
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                                                                                • Brujah
                                                                                  Beer Money Baron
                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                  • 22157

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by FATPad
                                                                                  If it turns out Aaron is right, there won't be a case for libel.
                                                                                  I know at least one provider in the list who does have custodian info on the site. So a competitor is labeling him as running an illegal business and there's an insinuation that most of the competitors cannot be trusted.

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                                                                                  • jact
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                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                    • 9134

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    A company can't be a custodian.
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                                                                                    • stocktrader23
                                                                                      Let's do some business.
                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                      • 18781

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Rockstar
                                                                                      Hi AaronM

                                                                                      I am curious as to how we are in violation of any 2257 laws when we include BOTH model ID's and Model releases with our content purchases.
                                                                                      We are very concerned if we are in voliation and we would also appreciate any help you can offer

                                                                                      Thanks
                                                                                      Rockstar
                                                                                      http://www.faproductions.com
                                                                                      I'd like to see your response to the advice given by a few. I have some content I purchased from you that I don't want to use until you get a link up there.


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                                                                                      • AaronM
                                                                                        GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                                        • 46923

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by jact


                                                                                        Too many webmasters are ignorant of the requirements, and a scary amount of content providers are. I'm not subject to 2257 but there's no way in hell I'd take the chance by not complying since most of my customers are US residents.
                                                                                        I would like to add that the custodial info on JactContent.com is by far the most impressive display I have seen.

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                                                                                        • Steve
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                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                          • 6894

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by FATPad
                                                                                          I like the idea of the list. Wonder if it'll make it to any resource sites.
                                                                                          I might link to it on my submit pages - I think my submit partners would find this information very useful.

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                                                                                          • Rockstar
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                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                            • 333

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by jact


                                                                                            You have some reading to do. Giving docs don't mean lickity if you aren't following the laws as they're laid out. What, you making the webmasters the custodians now?
                                                                                            I just want to follow the law and do things the right way and i will say a BIG thank you to AaronM for pointing it out

                                                                                            I am not here to get into any kind of pissing match. I am only trying to do the right thing. I have already messaged my partner and we will have this fixed by tomorrow and once again thanks
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                                                                                            • FATPad
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                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                              • 6693

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Brujah


                                                                                              I know at least one provider in the list who does have custodian info on the site. So a competitor is labeling him as running an illegal business and there's an insinuation that most of the competitors cannot be trusted.
                                                                                              Yes. If he is wrong, he can be sued for libel and defamation of character and all kinds of things.

                                                                                              If he is right, he can't be sued for anything.

                                                                                              Edited to add: That's why I think it would be in his best interests to answer the questions from the people he labelled as not conforming. If he did miss something, they can point it out now, and he can make a change to his list now before it escalates. But that's just my opinion. :P
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                                                                                              • jact
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                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                • 9134

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by AaronM


                                                                                                I would like to add that the custodial info on JactContent.com is by far the most impressive display I have seen.
                                                                                                Why thank you Aaron. As per my understanding of 2257 the date of production is important, not sure if it's a requirement but it helps authorities date a shoot to see if the models were in fact 18 at the time of production.
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                                                                                                • Kenneth K
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                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                  • 459

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by AaronM


                                                                                                  Yes Kenneth, I saw this page but it does not conform to US law.

                                                                                                  If this is the physical addy of your records AND your custodian of such...Please add his or her name above the address and let me know so I can update your listing.

                                                                                                  Sankt Pauls Plads 9, kld.
                                                                                                  1314 Copenhagen K
                                                                                                  Denmark

                                                                                                  Before Rockstart bitches....Notice how Kenneth at least made an effort?

                                                                                                  Well, if thats all missing, gees... our biz is 100% legit, even with the danish version of IRS...

                                                                                                  123 Content
                                                                                                  - Formerly known as 1st Content | ICQ: 128732055

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                                                                                                  • AaronM
                                                                                                    GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                                    • 46923

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Brujah


                                                                                                    I know at least one provider in the list who does have custodian info on the site. So a competitor is labeling him as running an illegal business and there's an insinuation that most of the competitors cannot be trusted.
                                                                                                    Show me the mistake and I will fix it. Just as the initial post AND that web page state.

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