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Old 04-22-2003, 07:58 AM   #1
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Internet porn BIZ is going down?

From what I know Internet porn biz is declining because of p2p file sharing.

Dose anybody have bright idea on profitable Internet venture?

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Old 04-22-2003, 07:59 AM   #2
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Old 04-22-2003, 08:02 AM   #3
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It's not going down, people are still buying porn online.
We need new ways of getting traffic, traffic that used to sell (tgp, cj, etc...) doesn't sell anymore, but i still am convinced that with new ways of finding traffic things will go up again. Just my
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Old 04-22-2003, 08:12 AM   #4
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Old 04-22-2003, 08:14 AM   #5
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p2p isn't all bad, some sites market really well through them. ideepthroat.com is a good case.
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Old 04-22-2003, 08:15 AM   #6
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there are ways to protect your files so that they dont get shared with digital rights management technology
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Old 04-22-2003, 08:15 AM   #7
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Old 04-22-2003, 08:15 AM   #8
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It's not going down, the bubble just keeps on bursting, if it hasn't already. Just means you got to work harder ;-)

Google is rumored to be very profitable, $100 million in profits last year I heard.
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Old 04-22-2003, 09:10 AM   #9
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Old 04-22-2003, 09:11 AM   #10
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It's not going down, the bubble just keeps on bursting, if it hasn't already. Just means you got to work harder ;-)

Google is rumored to be very profitable, $100 million in profits last year I heard.
hes talking about porn
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Old 04-22-2003, 10:27 AM   #11
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We make money everyday from P2P networks and we dont charge for it upfront, we ust link an affiliate code and you pay us based on conversions.

Shoot me an email and we can chat. It works!

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Old 04-22-2003, 12:45 PM   #12
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I think all the free porn on tgp's en movieposts hurts the biz more then those p2p proggs.
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Old 04-22-2003, 12:47 PM   #13
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It's not going down, people are still buying porn online.
We need new ways of getting traffic, traffic that used to sell (tgp, cj, etc...) doesn't sell anymore, but i still am convinced that with new ways of finding traffic things will go up again. Just my
Increasing traffic is one solution but an easy one.

Try doing this.
Improve the look of your tour and the content inside it. Look long and hard and ask yourself, would you pay $20-30 a month to look at it, when you see what is for free?

The Adult Internet is growing day by day.
The problem is the surfer is getting better educated, the professional pornographers are moving in and the survivors are learning move up or move out.

If the Adult Internet is dying why did we treble our turnover in 2002 from 2001? Oh and we have been shooting this stuff 25 years so not exactly a start up organisation.

BE POSITIVE.
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Old 04-22-2003, 12:50 PM   #14
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Well charly, let's see.

If my conversions are 1/100 with 1000 hits a day, that is ten sales.

If I spend alot of time on my site and my conversions go to 1/50, and I still only have 1000 hits a day, then I have 20 sales.

But if I stayed at 1/100 and could increase my traffic to 10,000 hits per day that would be 100 sales now wouldn't it?

I am not saying make shitty sites, just that numbers don't lie.

Don't overlook the obvious, ladies and gentlemen. They may say content is king, but the bottom line is that traffic rules.
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Old 04-22-2003, 12:54 PM   #15
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Increasing traffic is one solution but an easy one.

Try doing this.
Improve the look of your tour and the content inside it. Look long and hard and ask yourself, would you pay $20-30 a month to look at it, when you see what is for free?

The Adult Internet is growing day by day.
The problem is the surfer is getting better educated, the professional pornographers are moving in and the survivors are learning move up or move out.

If the Adult Internet is dying why did we treble our turnover in 2002 from 2001? Oh and we have been shooting this stuff 25 years so not exactly a start up organisation.

BE POSITIVE.
Content sales growing does not mean surfer spending is growing, but that more webmasters are joining the game and competition is getting more fierce.
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Old 04-22-2003, 12:57 PM   #16
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Don't overlook the obvious, ladies and gentlemen. They may say content is king, but the bottom line is that traffic rules.
Holy shit did you just say what I thought you said? I should go find all your old posts about "whirling hit counters" and how traffic is not so important
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Old 04-22-2003, 12:58 PM   #17
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Well charly, let's see.

If my conversions are 1/100 with 1000 hits a day, that is ten sales.

If I spend alot of time on my site and my conversions go to 1/50, and I still only have 1000 hits a day, then I have 20 sales.

But if I stayed at 1/100 and could increase my traffic to 10,000 hits per day that would be 100 sales now wouldn't it?

I am not saying make shitty sites, just that numbers don't lie.

Don't overlook the obvious, ladies and gentlemen. They may say content is king, but the bottom line is that traffic rules.
Well well then, Why not do both? I mean traffic is harder and harder to come by, so might as well juice it up to the max!
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Old 04-22-2003, 12:59 PM   #18
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Holy shit did you just say what I thought you said? I should go find all your old posts about "whirling hit counters" and how traffic is not so important
Traffic to hit counters is not important. Traffic to paysite tours at a steady conversion rate is important. Put the crack pipe down and work on your reading comprehension, I am clearly discussing a paysite model, not talking about trading tgp traffic.
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Old 04-22-2003, 01:00 PM   #19
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Well charly, let's see.

If my conversions are 1/100 with 1000 hits a day, that is ten sales.

If I spend alot of time on my site and my conversions go to 1/50, and I still only have 1000 hits a day, then I have 20 sales.

But if I stayed at 1/100 and could increase my traffic to 10,000 hits per day that would be 100 sales now wouldn't it?

I am not saying make shitty sites, just that numbers don't lie.

Don't overlook the obvious, ladies and gentlemen. They may say content is king, but the bottom line is that traffic rules.
The flaw in your argument is do you know how to pick porn? It's not as easy as you think.

Improving your site and it's content is a one off, then just tweaking it to keep it there.

Multiplying traffic by ten every month is a constant.

Do both and be sure of making the bling bling.
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Old 04-22-2003, 01:08 PM   #20
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The flaw in your argument is do you know how to pick porn? It's not as easy as you think.
Actually this is a flaw in your argument. Of course I know how to pick porn, who do you think oversaw about half the current tour designs that SIC Cash uses today? You can ask quite a few of the designers on this board, I am very picky about my porn but I also realize that convertible traffic is the way to make money.
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Old 04-22-2003, 01:29 PM   #21
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Actually this is a flaw in your argument. Of course I know how to pick porn, who do you think oversaw about half the current tour designs that SIC Cash uses today? You can ask quite a few of the designers on this board, I am very picky about my porn but I also realize that convertible traffic is the way to make money.
So what is the easiest thing to do?

Increase your by ten or improve your content?

Show us your current sites and I will tell you, privately, what I think. In exchange you can help me with some traffic issues, especially if you can increase your traffic by ten and keep up the conversions.
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Old 04-22-2003, 01:31 PM   #22
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It's not going down, people are still buying porn online.
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Old 04-22-2003, 01:32 PM   #23
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Old 04-22-2003, 01:48 PM   #24
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Having traffic to you site(s) is as important as life itself.
But...
And a huge but.
Do you track from index to join or just the join page?
If you are closing at 1-500 (example) Track all 500 ins and see how many go to your join page -
Find out which page surfers are leaving your site.
And change that page -
Then you will increase your sales.
The internet is booming - More people are coming online every day and joining sites.
Sure, for wm's it's harder than it was a few years back - There are loads of pro companies and wized up kids leading the way.
And they will continue to do so -
But only if you lie down and give up!
Get up and look at the cash you can make from each sale -
Then get real - And understand the amount of cash you can make from no sales - It is 20 X HIGHER !!!
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Old 04-22-2003, 01:53 PM   #25
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So what is the easiest thing to do?

Increase your by ten or improve your content?

Show us your current sites and I will tell you, privately, what I think. In exchange you can help me with some traffic issues, especially if you can increase your traffic by ten and keep up the conversions.
The easiest thing to do is increase traffic Charly, if you can maintain the same conversion ratio on it.

My current sites? http://spotbrokers.con -- we've got about 2 million processable uniques a day if you need help with traffic. As I've just mentioned repeatedly, it's much easier to deal in profitable and processable traffic than anything else.

Of course we've got something new that we'll be announcing in about a half hour, tops, that ALL site owners should love.
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it's all about traffic. content means jack shit without traffic.
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