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OneHungLo 07-24-2017 07:57 PM

Please don't make these threads... can't you see you're causing crucifissio to get triggered lol

Bladewire 07-24-2017 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21909574)
Neither Russia nor the US could beat Afghanistan, do you really either country could invade and win over the other under any circumstances?

It's population control.

You guys really don't get what war has truly been about the last 20 years.

Population control.

Paul Markham 07-24-2017 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21908644)
Why do we need so many aircraft carriers? After being dragged into World War, the United States policy has been to ensure we have the ability to project military power anywhere in the world nearly instantly. The only way to do this is to have military bases around the world, and fill in the gaps with aircraft carriers.

Aircraft carriers are just amazing...

Why does the US have to protect other countries military powers?

Paul Markham 07-24-2017 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21908731)
It's population control. You hate Muslims , USA is killing Muslims, and you're still not happy WTF :1orglaugh. Americans can kill every Muslim in the ME and you'd find something to complain about :1orglaugh

Stupid statement. Muslims kill more muslims every day. Muslims also kill more gays than anyone else.

Paul Markham 07-24-2017 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21909955)
It's population control.

You guys really don't get what war has truly been about the last 20 years.

Population control.

Again with the BS. Where are the most people being killed in wars today? Who is carrying out the killings?

MrMaxwell 07-24-2017 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21908752)
seems the US puts so much money into war, wondering what would happen to Trumps nut sacks if an anti guidance sytem, or a big pulse stopping all electronics over the world happened.

I suppose that´s another thread, wonder what would happen to the world without electronics... :2 cents:

Yeah no one even notices that we're unprepared for the next major EMP event
It's not IF
It is WHEN
If you ask me
My old azz automobile will be worth something maybe ... :)
PS: The lady in that gif in your sig seems like she is ADORABLE at blowjobs

MrMaxwell 07-24-2017 11:09 PM

I think almost all GPS systems have a built in speed limit of, what was it, some huge number of miles per hour
It's so that you cannot launch a guided ICBM easily

Bladewire 07-25-2017 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21910096)
Stupid statement. Muslims kill more muslims every day. Muslims also kill more gays than anyone else.

Population control is being carried out by America on behalf of the west, we are the anointed "world police".

But as more and more of our armed forces are minorities nowadays it's becoming more difficult, for obvious reasons.

"war" the last 20 years is population control.

Manufactured conflict for population control.

Bladewire 07-25-2017 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 21908341)

4 of his sons are Gay


Steve Rupe 07-25-2017 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21909427)
The true number is a moving target. We just launched one so we might have eleven now. It is obviously not about defense. The US wonders why we are viewed with suspicion all over the world when we have a military thst has nothing to do with defending our shores and everything to do with attacking theirs.

What makes you thing this "The US wonders why we are viewed with suspicion all over the world when we have a military thst has nothing to do with defending our shores and everything to do with attacking theirs."

Our government certainly does not "wonder" and I personally am not aware of anyone that "wonders".

Aircraft carriers have multiple roles but their primary role is to "project" military power or preposition military power around the globe. The best defense is a good offense and we have tremendous offensive capabilities. The greatest offensive power the world has ever known. There is not a country on the earth that can even begin to compare with our offensive capabilities.

Barry-xlovecam 07-25-2017 04:38 AM

Sorry, the USA has become as offensive as our enemies are claimed to be.

The USA has had a military policy of outspending the rest of the world -- China is catching up fast. Our smaller nation adversaries are using asynchronous countermeasures such as nuclear as well biological and chemical weapons. One small group of men can kill more people in a major US city than any aircraft *projected force*, using conventional, expensive weapons, can kill on enemy soil.

You cannot fight an asynchronous warrior with an aircraft carrier.

Steve Rupe 07-25-2017 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21910480)
Sorry, the USA has become as offensive as our enemies are claimed to be.

The USA has had a military policy of outspending the rest of the world -- China is catching up fast. Our smaller nation adversaries are using asynchronous countermeasures such as nuclear as well biological and chemical weapons. One small group of men can kill more people in a major US city than any aircraft *projected force*, using conventional, expensive weapons, can kill on enemy soil.

You cannot fight an asynchronous warrior with an aircraft carrier.

The USA being "the" military power on this earth may offend you but it does not offend me, assuming that is what you are speaking about and maybe you are not.

An aircraft carrier has its role to play against "asynchronous" warriors. A carrier does not have a singular role as it is a part of a combined force. In addition every carrier also projects "nuclear weapons" as well as conventional.

Sarn 07-25-2017 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21910480)
Sorry, the USA has become as offensive as our enemies are claimed to be...

:1orglaugh

Russia mocks HMS Queen Elizabeth as 'large convenient target'
Russia mocks HMS Queen Elizabeth as 'large convenient target' as it warns British warship to 'keep its distance'

UK's most expensive military assets 'increasingly vulnerable' to cheap missile attacks by Russia and China
RUSI report finds attack could 'at least disable' new British aircraft carrier costing over £3bn
UK's most expensive military assets 'increasingly vulnerable' to cheap missile attacks by Russia and China | The Independent

slapass 07-25-2017 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21910447)
What makes you thing this "The US wonders why we are viewed with suspicion all over the world when we have a military thst has nothing to do with defending our shores and everything to do with attacking theirs."

Our government certainly does not "wonder" and I personally am not aware of anyone that "wonders".

Aircraft carriers have multiple roles but their primary role is to "project" military power or preposition military power around the globe. The best defense is a good offense and we have tremendous offensive capabilities. The greatest offensive power the world has ever known. There is not a country on the earth that can even begin to compare with our offensive capabilities.

Exactly! We are not even challenged so why do we need more? Why is Potus claiming the military has been gutted and needs more $$$. We are without a threat.

pimpmaster9000 07-25-2017 05:25 AM

the more the USA push this war inc. agenda the more the world will turn to asynchronous warfare...why invest billions in invasion when you can just make one "off switch" to live on earth and keep invaders away?...one amp of bacteria for example?...

the biggest lie the USA ever told itself: "the world will just bend over and we will rule forever" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

just keep pushing it and you will make people make bacteria...it is only a matter of time...


enjoy your waste of money fleet then LOL

slapass 07-25-2017 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21910516)
The USA being "the" military power on this earth may offend you but it does not offend me, assuming that is what you are speaking about and maybe you are not.

An aircraft carrier has its role to play against "asynchronous" warriors. A carrier does not have a singular role as it is a part of a combined force. In addition every carrier also projects "nuclear weapons" as well as conventional.

I am wondering why? And why do want to pay for it. How many times over our closest potential opponent is too much?

slapass 07-25-2017 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21910537)
:1orglaugh

Russia mocks HMS Queen Elizabeth as 'large convenient target'
Russia mocks HMS Queen Elizabeth as 'large convenient target' as it warns British warship to 'keep its distance'

UK's most expensive military assets 'increasingly vulnerable' to cheap missile attacks by Russia and China
RUSI report finds attack could 'at least disable' new British aircraft carrier costing over £3bn
UK's most expensive military assets 'increasingly vulnerable' to cheap missile attacks by Russia and China | The Independent

It was not designed to fight Russia.

Barry-xlovecam 07-25-2017 05:37 AM

Aircraft carriers are really technology of the last 100 years. You are just fooling yourself. America has been rotting from the inside out in many ways for years -- this is just one of them.

The major powers of the world can destroy humanity 6+ times over -- yet there still open conflict and wars.

Remember the movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still"


pimpmaster9000 07-25-2017 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21910573)
I am wondering why? And why do want to pay for it. How many times over our closest potential opponent is too much?

It is never too much because he and his buddies would be without a job...you are always in DANGER!!! LOL! DANGER!!!

Paul Markham 07-25-2017 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21910219)
Population control is being carried out by America on behalf of the west, we are the anointed "world police".

But as more and more of our armed forces are minorities nowadays it's becoming more difficult, for obvious reasons.

"war" the last 20 years is population control.

Manufactured conflict for population control.

The US hasn't won a war since it helped in WW2. I'm discounting your invasion Grenada as that was a farcical attempt.

So why do you insist on saying it's about population control?

You weren't anointed by anyone.

Sarn 07-25-2017 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21910576)
It was not designed to fight Russia.

Yes military's trolling each other
https://sputniknews.com/military/201...british-fleet/

Rochard 07-25-2017 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21910480)
Sorry, the USA has become as offensive as our enemies are claimed to be.

The USA has had a military policy of outspending the rest of the world -- China is catching up fast. Our smaller nation adversaries are using asynchronous countermeasures such as nuclear as well biological and chemical weapons. One small group of men can kill more people in a major US city than any aircraft *projected force*, using conventional, expensive weapons, can kill on enemy soil.

You cannot fight an asynchronous warrior with an aircraft carrier.

This is very true. We are worried about North Korea, but has North Korea invaded any countries in the past fifty years? Now compare this to the track record of the United States.

Who is the bad guy here?

Steve Rupe 07-25-2017 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21911083)
This is very true. We are worried about North Korea, but has North Korea invaded any countries in the past fifty years? Now compare this to the track record of the United States.

Who is the bad guy here?

It sounds to me like you are. You just made tens of thousands of honorable Marines roll over in their graves and enemies of thousands that served as Marines as well as those that wear the Uniform today. As a former member of the Armed Forces I find your comment and comparison despicable.

Barry-xlovecam 07-25-2017 09:45 AM

The last *preemptive war* ousting Saddam Hussein was a colossal fuck up -- worse than the Vietnam War. ISIS unfortunately will live on in spirit and deed. Revenge is the way of life in the Middle East.

Three trillion dollars squandered and thousands of US American lives lost. Millions of other killed.

The sooner we get rid of our OPEC addiction the better -- any fool should be able to see that ...

pimpmaster9000 07-25-2017 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21911170)

The sooner we get rid of our OPEC addiction the better -- any fool should be able to see that ...

the single largest employer on earth will not allow peace...OPEC or not...the military industrial complex is too big to fail and mankinds war against it is yet to begin...fun times ahead :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 07-25-2017 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21910675)
The US hasn't won a war since it helped in WW2. I'm discounting your invasion Grenada as that was a farcical attempt.

So why do you insist on saying it's about population control?

You weren't anointed by anyone.

Manufactured conflicts to warrant invasion, or arming local factions, to kill each other.

It's population control.

It's not about winning a conflict, it's about population control on an overpopulated planet.

Are you picking up what I'm dropping down?

Diseases are too easily spread to our (the western / Euro) population, so we don't do that anymore, it has to be a physical culling.

Rochard 07-25-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21911170)
The last *preemptive war* ousting Saddam Hussein was a colossal fuck up -- worse than the Vietnam War. ISIS unfortunately will live on in spirit and deed. Revenge is the way of life in the Middle East.

Three trillion dollars squandered and thousands of US American lives lost. Millions of other killed.

The sooner we get rid of our OPEC addiction the better -- any fool should be able to see that ...

I disagree with this. Vietnam had tens of thousands US KIA and no clear victory. Iraq only had a few thousand US KIA over a longer period of time, with a stunning and very clear victory.

pimpmaster9000 07-25-2017 12:51 PM

I rest my nuts on the US aircraft carrier...I'm like that...

slapass 07-25-2017 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21911116)
It sounds to me like you are. You just made tens of thousands of honorable Marines roll over in their graves and enemies of thousands that served as Marines as well as those that wear the Uniform today. As a former member of the Armed Forces I find your comment and comparison despicable.

You need to understand that a poke at the commanders doesn't besmirch those who served.

slapass 07-25-2017 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21911284)
Manufactured conflicts to warrant invasion, or arming local factions, to kill each other.

It's population control.

It's not about winning a conflict, it's about population control on an overpopulated planet.

Are you picking up what I'm dropping down?

Diseases are too easily spread to our (the western / Euro) population, so we don't do that anymore, it has to be a physical culling.

This is upper dumb. Education has proven to be the most effective population control ever.

Steve Rupe 07-25-2017 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21912178)
You need to understand that a poke at the commanders doesn't besmirch those who served.

I repeat his statement was/is despicable.

Barry-xlovecam 07-25-2017 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21911413)
I disagree with this. Vietnam had tens of thousands US KIA and no clear victory. Iraq only had a few thousand US KIA over a longer period of time, with a stunning and very clear victory.

Perhaps as many as one million people have died -- I guess Iraqis, Afghanis and Syrians are not people in your book? What victory -- *Mission Accomplished*
:laughing-

Almost 3,000 American civilians have died now because of the 9/11 attacks -- they don't count either?

slapass 07-25-2017 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21911413)
I disagree with this. Vietnam had tens of thousands US KIA and no clear victory. Iraq only had a few thousand US KIA over a longer period of time, with a stunning and very clear victory.

The destroy the country and then try to rebuild model is not looking so successful in my opinion.

Bladewire 07-25-2017 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21912181)
This is upper dumb. Education has proven to be the most effective population control ever.

You're not so smart.

How educated are the countries we're doing the culling in? You know, the one where women can't go-to school and are used as breeding machines and have to be escorted by a man I in public, etc. etc.

A smart person would have asked that question before posting saying I was super dumb :2 cents:

slapass 07-25-2017 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21912268)
You're not so smart.

How educated are the countries we're doing the culling in? You know, the one where women can't go-to school and are used as breeding machines and have to be escorted by a man I in public, etc. etc.

A smart person would have asked that question before posting saying I was super dumb :2 cents:

Iraq was more advanced then Greece when we started against them in the 90's. Women were educated and did not have to wear specific garb.

I will look for stats but the baby boom exists for a reason.

slapass 07-25-2017 07:11 PM

Put this in Google and check the graph that pops up.

iraq birth rate by year.

Bladewire 07-25-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21912280)
Put this in Google and check the graph that pops up.

iraq birth rate by year.

Wait, you think Iraq accurately counts it's birthrate? You think the birthrate is the same now as before we started culling there? Come on dude don't make me think for you :1orglaugh

slapass 07-25-2017 07:35 PM

Ok whatever.

MrMaxwell 07-25-2017 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21910480)
Sorry, the USA has become as offensive as our enemies are claimed to be.

The USA has had a military policy of outspending the rest of the world -- China is catching up fast. Our smaller nation adversaries are using asynchronous countermeasures such as nuclear as well biological and chemical weapons. One small group of men can kill more people in a major US city than any aircraft *projected force*, using conventional, expensive weapons, can kill on enemy soil.

You cannot fight an asynchronous warrior with an aircraft carrier.


Our biggest actual problem is money and production
Look it at those debt asset charts for japan and china and for the states
Holy Christ are we ever fucked
We MUST begin ever producing anything the fuck ever again I would hope
It would help to stop buying massive containers of throwaway junk from china too

What's most vulnerable in the states if you ask me is water
Of course airborne hells are a concern
A coordinated water attack would take ages to discover and half of us are gone BAM

Bladewire 07-25-2017 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21912325)
Ok whatever.

Notice something on that birthrate chart? Average birthrate was 6 births per woman in 1990! As of 2015 its 4.5 per woman.

Now you see why we're culling the population there?


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