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Barry-xlovecam 07-25-2017 04:38 AM
Sorry, the USA has become as offensive as our enemies are claimed to be.

The USA has had a military policy of outspending the rest of the world -- China is catching up fast. Our smaller nation adversaries are using asynchronous countermeasures such as nuclear as well biological and chemical weapons. One small group of men can kill more people in a major US city than any aircraft *projected force*, using conventional, expensive weapons, can kill on enemy soil.

You cannot fight an asynchronous warrior with an aircraft carrier.

Steve Rupe 07-25-2017 04:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21910480)
Sorry, the USA has become as offensive as our enemies are claimed to be.

The USA has had a military policy of outspending the rest of the world -- China is catching up fast. Our smaller nation adversaries are using asynchronous countermeasures such as nuclear as well biological and chemical weapons. One small group of men can kill more people in a major US city than any aircraft *projected force*, using conventional, expensive weapons, can kill on enemy soil.

You cannot fight an asynchronous warrior with an aircraft carrier.
The USA being "the" military power on this earth may offend you but it does not offend me, assuming that is what you are speaking about and maybe you are not.

An aircraft carrier has its role to play against "asynchronous" warriors. A carrier does not have a singular role as it is a part of a combined force. In addition every carrier also projects "nuclear weapons" as well as conventional.

Sarn 07-25-2017 05:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21910480)
Sorry, the USA has become as offensive as our enemies are claimed to be...
:1orglaugh

Russia mocks HMS Queen Elizabeth as 'large convenient target'
Russia mocks HMS Queen Elizabeth as &#39;large convenient target&#39; as it warns British warship to &#39;keep its distance&#39;

UK's most expensive military assets 'increasingly vulnerable' to cheap missile attacks by Russia and China
RUSI report finds attack could 'at least disable' new British aircraft carrier costing over Ģ3bn
UK's most expensive military assets 'increasingly vulnerable' to cheap missile attacks by Russia and China | The Independent

slapass 07-25-2017 05:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21910447)
What makes you thing this "The US wonders why we are viewed with suspicion all over the world when we have a military thst has nothing to do with defending our shores and everything to do with attacking theirs."

Our government certainly does not "wonder" and I personally am not aware of anyone that "wonders".

Aircraft carriers have multiple roles but their primary role is to "project" military power or preposition military power around the globe. The best defense is a good offense and we have tremendous offensive capabilities. The greatest offensive power the world has ever known. There is not a country on the earth that can even begin to compare with our offensive capabilities.
Exactly! We are not even challenged so why do we need more? Why is Potus claiming the military has been gutted and needs more $$$. We are without a threat.

pimpmaster9000 07-25-2017 05:25 AM
the more the USA push this war inc. agenda the more the world will turn to asynchronous warfare...why invest billions in invasion when you can just make one "off switch" to live on earth and keep invaders away?...one amp of bacteria for example?...

the biggest lie the USA ever told itself: "the world will just bend over and we will rule forever" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

just keep pushing it and you will make people make bacteria...it is only a matter of time...


enjoy your waste of money fleet then LOL

slapass 07-25-2017 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21910516)
The USA being "the" military power on this earth may offend you but it does not offend me, assuming that is what you are speaking about and maybe you are not.

An aircraft carrier has its role to play against "asynchronous" warriors. A carrier does not have a singular role as it is a part of a combined force. In addition every carrier also projects "nuclear weapons" as well as conventional.
I am wondering why? And why do want to pay for it. How many times over our closest potential opponent is too much?

slapass 07-25-2017 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21910537)
:1orglaugh

Russia mocks HMS Queen Elizabeth as 'large convenient target'
Russia mocks HMS Queen Elizabeth as &#39;large convenient target&#39; as it warns British warship to &#39;keep its distance&#39;

UK's most expensive military assets 'increasingly vulnerable' to cheap missile attacks by Russia and China
RUSI report finds attack could 'at least disable' new British aircraft carrier costing over Ģ3bn
UK's most expensive military assets 'increasingly vulnerable' to cheap missile attacks by Russia and China | The Independent
It was not designed to fight Russia.

Barry-xlovecam 07-25-2017 05:37 AM
Aircraft carriers are really technology of the last 100 years. You are just fooling yourself. America has been rotting from the inside out in many ways for years -- this is just one of them.

The major powers of the world can destroy humanity 6+ times over -- yet there still open conflict and wars.

Remember the movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still"

pimpmaster9000 07-25-2017 05:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21910573)
I am wondering why? And why do want to pay for it. How many times over our closest potential opponent is too much?
It is never too much because he and his buddies would be without a job...you are always in DANGER!!! LOL! DANGER!!!

Paul Markham 07-25-2017 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21910219)
Population control is being carried out by America on behalf of the west, we are the anointed "world police".

But as more and more of our armed forces are minorities nowadays it's becoming more difficult, for obvious reasons.

"war" the last 20 years is population control.

Manufactured conflict for population control.
The US hasn't won a war since it helped in WW2. I'm discounting your invasion Grenada as that was a farcical attempt.

So why do you insist on saying it's about population control?

You weren't anointed by anyone.

Sarn 07-25-2017 06:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21910576)
It was not designed to fight Russia.
Yes military's trolling each other
https://sputniknews.com/military/201...british-fleet/

Rochard 07-25-2017 09:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21910480)
Sorry, the USA has become as offensive as our enemies are claimed to be.

The USA has had a military policy of outspending the rest of the world -- China is catching up fast. Our smaller nation adversaries are using asynchronous countermeasures such as nuclear as well biological and chemical weapons. One small group of men can kill more people in a major US city than any aircraft *projected force*, using conventional, expensive weapons, can kill on enemy soil.

You cannot fight an asynchronous warrior with an aircraft carrier.
This is very true. We are worried about North Korea, but has North Korea invaded any countries in the past fifty years? Now compare this to the track record of the United States.

Who is the bad guy here?

Steve Rupe 07-25-2017 09:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21911083)
This is very true. We are worried about North Korea, but has North Korea invaded any countries in the past fifty years? Now compare this to the track record of the United States.

Who is the bad guy here?
It sounds to me like you are. You just made tens of thousands of honorable Marines roll over in their graves and enemies of thousands that served as Marines as well as those that wear the Uniform today. As a former member of the Armed Forces I find your comment and comparison despicable.

Barry-xlovecam 07-25-2017 09:45 AM
The last *preemptive war* ousting Saddam Hussein was a colossal fuck up -- worse than the Vietnam War. ISIS unfortunately will live on in spirit and deed. Revenge is the way of life in the Middle East.

Three trillion dollars squandered and thousands of US American lives lost. Millions of other killed.

The sooner we get rid of our OPEC addiction the better -- any fool should be able to see that ...

pimpmaster9000 07-25-2017 10:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21911170)

The sooner we get rid of our OPEC addiction the better -- any fool should be able to see that ...
the single largest employer on earth will not allow peace...OPEC or not...the military industrial complex is too big to fail and mankinds war against it is yet to begin...fun times ahead :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 07-25-2017 10:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21910675)
The US hasn't won a war since it helped in WW2. I'm discounting your invasion Grenada as that was a farcical attempt.

So why do you insist on saying it's about population control?

You weren't anointed by anyone.
Manufactured conflicts to warrant invasion, or arming local factions, to kill each other.

It's population control.

It's not about winning a conflict, it's about population control on an overpopulated planet.

Are you picking up what I'm dropping down?

Diseases are too easily spread to our (the western / Euro) population, so we don't do that anymore, it has to be a physical culling.

Rochard 07-25-2017 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21911170)
The last *preemptive war* ousting Saddam Hussein was a colossal fuck up -- worse than the Vietnam War. ISIS unfortunately will live on in spirit and deed. Revenge is the way of life in the Middle East.

Three trillion dollars squandered and thousands of US American lives lost. Millions of other killed.

The sooner we get rid of our OPEC addiction the better -- any fool should be able to see that ...
I disagree with this. Vietnam had tens of thousands US KIA and no clear victory. Iraq only had a few thousand US KIA over a longer period of time, with a stunning and very clear victory.

pimpmaster9000 07-25-2017 12:51 PM
I rest my nuts on the US aircraft carrier...I'm like that...

slapass 07-25-2017 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21911116)
It sounds to me like you are. You just made tens of thousands of honorable Marines roll over in their graves and enemies of thousands that served as Marines as well as those that wear the Uniform today. As a former member of the Armed Forces I find your comment and comparison despicable.
You need to understand that a poke at the commanders doesn't besmirch those who served.

slapass 07-25-2017 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21911284)
Manufactured conflicts to warrant invasion, or arming local factions, to kill each other.

It's population control.

It's not about winning a conflict, it's about population control on an overpopulated planet.

Are you picking up what I'm dropping down?

Diseases are too easily spread to our (the western / Euro) population, so we don't do that anymore, it has to be a physical culling.
This is upper dumb. Education has proven to be the most effective population control ever.

Steve Rupe 07-25-2017 06:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21912178)
You need to understand that a poke at the commanders doesn't besmirch those who served.
I repeat his statement was/is despicable.

Barry-xlovecam 07-25-2017 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21911413)
I disagree with this. Vietnam had tens of thousands US KIA and no clear victory. Iraq only had a few thousand US KIA over a longer period of time, with a stunning and very clear victory.
Perhaps as many as one million people have died -- I guess Iraqis, Afghanis and Syrians are not people in your book? What victory -- *Mission Accomplished*
:laughing-

Almost 3,000 American civilians have died now because of the 9/11 attacks -- they don't count either?

slapass 07-25-2017 06:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21911413)
I disagree with this. Vietnam had tens of thousands US KIA and no clear victory. Iraq only had a few thousand US KIA over a longer period of time, with a stunning and very clear victory.
The destroy the country and then try to rebuild model is not looking so successful in my opinion.

Bladewire 07-25-2017 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21912181)
This is upper dumb. Education has proven to be the most effective population control ever.
You're not so smart.

How educated are the countries we're doing the culling in? You know, the one where women can't go-to school and are used as breeding machines and have to be escorted by a man I in public, etc. etc.

A smart person would have asked that question before posting saying I was super dumb :2 cents:

slapass 07-25-2017 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21912268)
You're not so smart.

How educated are the countries we're doing the culling in? You know, the one where women can't go-to school and are used as breeding machines and have to be escorted by a man I in public, etc. etc.

A smart person would have asked that question before posting saying I was super dumb :2 cents:
Iraq was more advanced then Greece when we started against them in the 90's. Women were educated and did not have to wear specific garb.

I will look for stats but the baby boom exists for a reason.

slapass 07-25-2017 07:11 PM
Put this in Google and check the graph that pops up.

iraq birth rate by year.

Bladewire 07-25-2017 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21912280)
Put this in Google and check the graph that pops up.

iraq birth rate by year.
Wait, you think Iraq accurately counts it's birthrate? You think the birthrate is the same now as before we started culling there? Come on dude don't make me think for you :1orglaugh

slapass 07-25-2017 07:35 PM
Ok whatever.

MrMaxwell 07-25-2017 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21910480)
Sorry, the USA has become as offensive as our enemies are claimed to be.

The USA has had a military policy of outspending the rest of the world -- China is catching up fast. Our smaller nation adversaries are using asynchronous countermeasures such as nuclear as well biological and chemical weapons. One small group of men can kill more people in a major US city than any aircraft *projected force*, using conventional, expensive weapons, can kill on enemy soil.

You cannot fight an asynchronous warrior with an aircraft carrier.

Our biggest actual problem is money and production
Look it at those debt asset charts for japan and china and for the states
Holy Christ are we ever fucked
We MUST begin ever producing anything the fuck ever again I would hope
It would help to stop buying massive containers of throwaway junk from china too

What's most vulnerable in the states if you ask me is water
Of course airborne hells are a concern
A coordinated water attack would take ages to discover and half of us are gone BAM

Bladewire 07-25-2017 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21912325)
Ok whatever.
Notice something on that birthrate chart? Average birthrate was 6 births per woman in 1990! As of 2015 its 4.5 per woman.

Now you see why we're culling the population there?

pimpmaster9000 07-25-2017 11:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21912205)
I repeat his statement was/is despicable.
LOL a mercenary calling something despicable...oh the comedy...high school drop outs who could not get a normal job demand respect for murdering others for money over Americas Mickey mouse politics...invaded more countries than the Roman empire, dropped more bombs than all world wars combined and forced in to draft and killed tens of millions of civilians over politics...that is called terrorism fyi...

You and those like you are the cancer of humanity...USIS , ISIS...same shit same smell...

slapass 07-26-2017 02:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21912334)
Notice something on that birthrate chart? Average birthrate was 6 births per woman in 1990! As of 2015 its 4.5 per woman.

Now you see why we're culling the population there?
The world's birth rate has been cut in half in my life time. The biggest concern when I was on school was population growth and over running the planet. Now over a third of the planet is at or near zero population growth. We get Africa and India educated and this problem will have been solved.

We attacked Iraq over oil. Not sure where ever heard anyone talking about culling the herd.

NatalieK 07-26-2017 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 21910147)
Yeah no one even notices that we're unprepared for the next major EMP event
It's not IF
It is WHEN
If you ask me
My old azz automobile will be worth something maybe ... :)
PS: The lady in that gif in your sig seems like she is ADORABLE at blowjobs
Good for you holding an older car with no electronics :thumbsup EMP war will crucify the world & change everything. It probably will happen...

and thanks for the comment of the blowjob, Itīs me & I do enjoy giving a good sloppy BJ, spit or swallow :winkwink:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21910099)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21909955)
It's population control.

You guys really don't get what war has truly been about the last 20 years.

Population control.
Again with the BS. Where are the most people being killed in wars today? Who is carrying out the killings?
Actually, you sounds a bit ignorant as Bladewireīs on the level! If there was no war, no army, how many would really be in jobs or supporting their families...

itīs all about the money. Stocks, shares, wages, employment... you canīt be that stupid not to know this Paul?

MrMaxwell 07-27-2017 12:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21914542)
Good for you holding an older car with no electronics :thumbsup EMP war will crucify the world & change everything. It probably will happen...

and thanks for the comment of the blowjob, Itīs me & I do enjoy giving a good sloppy BJ, spit or swallow :winkwink:



Actually, you sounds a bit ignorant as Bladewireīs on the level! If there was no war, no army, how many would really be in jobs or supporting their families...

itīs all about the money. Stocks, shares, wages, employment... you canīt be that stupid not to know this Paul?


Aw
You are most welcome, Miss Spot.
I just ADORE women, you know!!!
YOU seem like you are nice to me- you even told me a nice statement on my birthday. If you were a sub and if I were currently allowed to see women I would SO hit on you :)

PS: I think it would be wise for some idiot to go around buying up old ass fuckhole automobiles because when a major pulse hits, we all will want those, then. Of course I also think that we could get killed for having something so valuable but I'd rather take my chances

MFCT 07-27-2017 02:17 AM
The short answer is, we don't!

(Visits "Newport News Shipbuilding" web site, sees the big INVEST button at the top, invests $10,000.)

I mean, we DO need more. Many, many more! And uh, we need to go to war with Russia. Because they're foreigners and they voted for Trump. That's bad, because foreigners have absolutely no right to cast votes in U.S. elections.

In fact, their meddling canceled out every single vote that Mexicans cast for Hillary, which would have made her president. And that's fucking bullshit. I'm still in trauma over the election being stolen from Hillary. We need war, and we need dozens more aircraft carriers to do it with!


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