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  • pimpmaster9000
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2011
    • 26732

    #1

    to the guy wondering how to defend against a knife attack...

    this guy really brings the point across...this is exactly how it looks and what you should expect...





    golden rule: knife? = run
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  • just a punk
    So fuckin' bored
    • Jun 2003
    • 32393

    #2
    Indeed. As I said already, have your own knife and lower the attacker's chances to 50/50.
    Obey the Cowgod

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    • mineistaken
      See signature :)
      • Apr 2007
      • 29656

      #3
      While I agree that there is no point (even for pro fighters) to try and fight someone with a knife (as opposed to running etc), this guy says that he could defend if he knew that he was going to do that move (as demonstrated in the beginning). And no chance of defending if he does not know when/how he will use that knife. So my question - wouldn't it be smartest way to grab that knife hand (or do whatever) as soon as he saw knife in hand (as opposed to listening to confrontation from someone holding a kife)?
      If he could grab it like that first move, he could do something along those line if there was no move at all (just words and knife in steady hand).

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      • TheSquealer
        Mayor of Thneedville
        • Oct 2004
        • 26174

        #4
        Originally posted by mineistaken
        While I agree that there is no point (even for pro fighters) to try and fight someone with a knife (as opposed to running etc), this guy says that he could defend if he knew that he was going to do that move (as demonstrated in the beginning). And no chance of defending if he does not know when/how he will use that knife. So my question - wouldn't it be smartest way to grab that knife hand (or do whatever) as soon as he saw knife in hand (as opposed to listening to confrontation from someone holding a kife)?
        If he could grab it like that first move, he could do something along those line if there was no move at all (just words and knife in steady hand).
        There is a reason there are 1000s of martial arts, all full of ancient and supposedly "battle tested" wisdom (they aren't) and all promising to stop attackers, disarm them, incapacitate theme etc and only basically a couple that exist in real world, full contact fighting like the UFC/MMA world (Muay Thai/BJJ/Wrestling).

        The short answer to your question is "no". No, you can't just "grab the.....". How are you going to "grab the..." when the attacker is going to react to your movement towards the weapon?

        You are talking about the equivalent in training of playing a world class piano concerto in terms of skill. Except, in this case, you only get one chance to get it right. You get it perfectly right and you take control of the weapon to incapacitate them or you die.

        You can "grab the...." after doing it 10s of 1000s of times over years with multiple partners to develop the speed, timing and accuracy of the movement and to have skills to brutally follow up with something that will break them... all of which assumes a well designed training program, great coaching and feedback, endless repetition and a fierce determination on the part of the student to correct himself and relentlessly drill.

        Only people who train fantasy martial arts and watch action movies, think they "can just grab the..."

        Real confrontation is messy and chaotic and random/unpredictable.
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        • Sarn
          WW3
          • Sep 2015
          • 12405

          #5
          Originally posted by crucifissio
          ...
          golden rule: knife? = run
          coward
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          • bronco67
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Dec 2006
            • 29032

            #6
            In the rare case that you do actually defend the attack and save your own life, there's probably no way you leave the encounter without horrible injuries.

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            • sperbonzo
              I'd rather be on my boat.
              • May 2003
              • 9750

              #7

              Best way to defend against a knife attack....
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              • pimpmaster9000
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                • Dec 2011
                • 26732

                #8
                Originally posted by Sarn
                coward
                yes but I will live and the hero will be like a fishing net...more holes than substance
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                • Sarn
                  WW3
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 12405

                  #9
                  Originally posted by crucifissio
                  yes but I will live and the hero will be like a fishing net...more holes than substance
                  You right just joke
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                  • mineistaken
                    See signature :)
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 29656

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheSquealer
                    The short answer to your question is "no". No, you can't just "grab the.....". How are you going to "grab the..." when the attacker is going to react to your movement towards the weapon?
                    I agree, but I was trying to look from that instructor's point of view.

                    He claimed/agreed that the defender could only grab his hand (aka do that cool move from the beginning of the video) if he knew what exact kind (that demonstrated in the beginning) of movement the attacker would do.
                    So if we take that ^^^ for granted then it should be even easier to grab the knife when the attacker is doing no movement at all.

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                    • TheSquealer
                      Mayor of Thneedville
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 26174

                      #11
                      So if we take that ^^^ for granted then it should be even easier to grab the knife when the attacker is doing no movement at all.
                      With the adrenaline of the attacker pumping - I don't think there is an "easy" way to do anything.

                      When you move, the attacker reacts. How? Well, that's the first big problem you'll face when you make a move. He's not going to stand there unless he's drunk. Most likely he'll react instantly by thrusting the knife forward at you or by pulling it back and then attacking you with it.

                      The best way to defend against a knife attack is with a gun... the second best way is by not being in a place to be attacked by a knife.


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                      • just a punk
                        So fuckin' bored
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 32393

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sperbonzo

                        Best way to defend against a knife attack....
                        In the real life a gunman will be dead 10s times, before he will be able to shot.
                        Obey the Cowgod

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                        • pimpmaster9000
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 26732

                          #13
                          the first rule of taking out a gun: go backwards...never let an enemy close the distance to you...run backwards and shoot if you have to...never ever ever ever let the enemy approach...a gun in close quarter combat is much less dangerous than a knife...
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                          • sperbonzo
                            I'd rather be on my boat.
                            • May 2003
                            • 9750

                            #14
                            Originally posted by CyberSEO
                            In the real life a gunman will be dead 10s times, before he will be able to shot.
                            Wait a minute! Are you trying to suggest that a hollywood movie is NOT REAL LIFE?????



                            I can't believe that! You must be lying! Everyone knows that what you see in movies is completely real!!!


                            I posted this as an instructional video! How dare you try to say that it isn't!!!



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                            • Sarn
                              WW3
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 12405

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CyberSEO
                              In the real life a gunman will be dead 10s times, before he will be able to shot.
                              10s it was bad cowboy)

                              Originally posted by crucifissio
                              the first rule of taking out a gun: go backwards...never let an enemy close the distance to you...run backwards and shoot if you have to...never ever ever ever let the enemy approach...a gun in close quarter combat is much less dangerous than a knife...
                              For short distance))
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                              • mikesouth
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 6334

                                #16
                                Originally posted by sperbonzo

                                Best way to defend against a knife attack....
                                Mike South

                                It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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                                • romeo22
                                  你自己去他媽的
                                  • Mar 2008
                                  • 23350

                                  #17
                                  This can save you life

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                                  • pimpmaster9000
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Dec 2011
                                    • 26732

                                    #18
                                    the hidden knife is the real danger...a pro will never show you the knife until he perforates you like 5x...

                                    the best advice I can give anybody who ends up in a situation where they absolutely must fight, carry a knife...never ever show it...never hint that you have it...play the victim...beg...cry...aim for the neck...stab 2x in one second and run backwards....wait for the attacker to collapse...take out microscope pads and collect a blood sample...go home and open your blood sample collection box...put in the new blood sample with the others...hide the box...
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                                    • Bladewire
                                      StraightBro
                                      • Aug 2003
                                      • 56228

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by crucifissio
                                      the hidden knife is the real danger...a pro will never show you the knife until he perforates you like 5x...

                                      the best advice I can give anybody who ends up in a situation where they absolutely must fight, carry a knife...never ever show it...never hint that you have it...play the victim...beg...cry...aim for the neck...stab 2x in one second and run backwards....wait for the attacker to collapse...take out microscope pads and collect a blood sample...go home and open your blood sample collection box...put in the new blood sample with the others...hide the box...
                                      Which would you rather in American building prison a quick gay rape by very small dick or 20 stab knife attack?


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                                      • pimpmaster9000
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                                        • Dec 2011
                                        • 26732

                                        #20
                                        40 stab...
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                                        • bronco67
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Dec 2006
                                          • 29032

                                          #21
                                          None of us can control what fate has in store for us, but there are probably certain types of people more likely to end up defending himself against a knife attack. We all know the type.

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                                          • Bladewire
                                            StraightBro
                                            • Aug 2003
                                            • 56228

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by crucifissio
                                            40 stab...
                                            Pussy


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                                            • just a punk
                                              So fuckin' bored
                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 32393

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by crucifissio
                                              the best advice I can give anybody who ends up in a situation where they absolutely must fight, carry a knife...never ever show it...
                                              This depends on a situation. In 90% cases showing a knife is the only way to prevent a possible confrontation.

                                              A gun vs a knife:



                                              Obey the Cowgod

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                                              • pimpmaster9000
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Dec 2011
                                                • 26732

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                This depends on a situation. In 90% cases showing a knife is the only way to prevent a possible confrontation.
                                                this is true...showing a knife is preventative but you give up your huge advantage of a "surprise knife"...

                                                for example if you are a woman who is alone and some crazy guy pulls a knife you would be best served to hide the knife and beg and cry and let the attacker think he has the upper hand...then you go crazy on his neck and run while he is in shock of what you just did...

                                                on the other hand if you are an absolute beast and you whip out a big one then it will be preventative...

                                                it depends on the situation a lot...

                                                those videos you posted...the people taking out the gun are doing it completely wrong...you should sprint in the opposite direction, take out the gun, load it, and then turn around and unload and still run util the opponent drops...
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                                                • Paul Markham
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                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 52942

                                                  #25



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                                                  • ilnjscb
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jun 2009
                                                    • 8972

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                    this is true...showing a knife is preventative but you give up your huge advantage of a "surprise knife"...

                                                    for example if you are a woman who is alone and some crazy guy pulls a knife you would be best served to hide the knife and beg and cry and let the attacker think he has the upper hand...then you go crazy on his neck and run while he is in shock of what you just did...

                                                    on the other hand if you are an absolute beast and you whip out a big one then it will be preventative...

                                                    it depends on the situation a lot...

                                                    those videos you posted...the people taking out the gun are doing it completely wrong...you should sprint in the opposite direction, take out the gun, load it, and then turn around and unload and still run util the opponent drops...
                                                    Agree with your first example but you are assuming too much for the second.

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                                                    • rayadp05
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                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                      • 4187

                                                      #27
                                                      Good video.

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                                                      • pimpmaster9000
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Dec 2011
                                                        • 26732

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by ilnjscb
                                                        Agree with your first example but you are assuming too much for the second.
                                                        you mean a beast of a guy pulling out a knife will not act preventative?...this may well be true in some cases but the guy who attacks him anyway is not going to have a good time, knife or not...

                                                        just "usain bolt" out of any conflict when you can, this is the best thing to do...there is no point in beating up something like the human body that will regenerate and remain the exact same asshole it always was...maybe the most important thing that I learned from martial arts is to let it go...its no big deal...just walk away...
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                                                        • Neighbor
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                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                          • 1511

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                          maybe the most important thing that I learned from martial arts is to let it go...its no big deal...just walk away...
                                                          You are correct.... it's all about discipline. You sensei would be proud to hear you say that I'm sure

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                                                          • ilnjscb
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jun 2009
                                                            • 8972

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                            you mean a beast of a guy pulling out a knife will not act preventative?...this may well be true in some cases but the guy who attacks him anyway is not going to have a good time, knife or not...

                                                            just "usain bolt" out of any conflict when you can, this is the best thing to do...there is no point in beating up something like the human body that will regenerate and remain the exact same asshole it always was...maybe the most important thing that I learned from martial arts is to let it go...its no big deal...just walk away...
                                                            I wish I could do that. I fear the era of walking away is coming to an end.

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                                                            • baddog
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                              • 107089

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by sperbonzo

                                                              Best way to defend against a knife attack....
                                                              Tell that to Meredith Hunter.

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                                                              • pimpmaster9000
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Dec 2011
                                                                • 26732

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ilnjscb
                                                                I wish I could do that. I fear the era of walking away is coming to an end.
                                                                Then carry a hidden knife and prepare to go to jail or hospital...running away is always the best choice but if you can not be prepared for a change in lifestyle...
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