Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21895147)

The Democrat Party stands for illegal immigrants. welfare, food stamps, bad trade deals, horrible foreign policy, and taking away people's right to own a gun.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21897064)

This is not true at all.

Under Obama we deported more illegal immigrants than ever before.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21897067)

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21897064)

This is not true at all.

Under Obama we deported more illegal immigrants than ever before.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21897067)

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21897301)

And wait for it.... He's a Russian money launderer and is on video with Donald Trump in Moscow at the Miss universe pageant. He created 2,000 businesses in Delaware and opened bank accounts for them. Now investigators are tracking where $800 million from Russia was disbursed from his dealings.

Money laundering:

"According to a New York Times article in 2000, Kaveladze, who immigrated to the U.S. in 1991 from Russia, once set up over 2,000 corporations for Russian brokers in Delaware and then opened bank accounts for them."

The report was part of a Congressional inquiry which was aimed to find out how easy it is for foreigners to hide their identities in companies and launder money through American banks.

The article said that over $800 million was wired from foreign countries to 236 bank accounts that Kaveladze opened for Russian clients through Citibank in the name of his company, International Business Creations. That money was then sent back to overseas accounts, government officials concluded.

https://heavy.com/news/2017/07/ike-k...ting-agalarov/

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21897523)

He is not a money launderer, he not enough brain for it. He just mafia - kidnapping, killing people, racket, drugs, prostitution and they linked with the prosecutor in Moscow. Money launderer it is Trump

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21897976)

Right he opened 2,000 business & bank accounts and put $800 million into them not to launder the money.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21898021)

yes this is a common totally-not-money-laundering technique...you see he could not fit all the money in one bank account so he had to open 2000...they were out of bigger bank accounts that day but had a special deal on bulk...totally legit :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21898291)

Now we find out there was a secret meeting with Putin. The lies just never stop.

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21897976)

Right he opened 2,000 business & bank accounts and put $800 million into them not to launder the money.

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21898231)

A lawyer, a spy-traitor, a mob boss, and a money launder walk into a bar. The bartender says: "you guys must be here to talk about adoption."

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21898231)

A lawyer, a spy, a mob boss, and a money launder walk into a bar. The bartender says: "you guys must be here to talk about adoption."

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21898795)

^^ red-hat nutter commits suicide.
move on, nothing to see

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21899005)

So eight people at a meeting that wasn't important, two of them were translators, even though everyone in the fucking room spoke English.

LOL.

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 21894142)

Y
To re-cap Paul the peeps at the meeting are very busy guys in the middle of a high powered presidential campaign who dropped everything to meet a Russian national who had damaging info on Clinton. The info promised was part of the Russian Govt's support for the trump campaign.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21894295)

this question i have to ask you if you think that the TRY of a crime is legal we can give up to discuss because you live on a planet what have not the same rules as planet earth.



so enough to let them influence the policy of a country?

my dear god what´s going on in your head paul. take your pills.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21894310)

it does not make sense, nick. paul has now completely switched off the reality. i think we should really worry about him meanwhile.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21894544)

No, they don't keep it a secret. They call the FBI. Which is the first thing the Trump campaign should have done.

If I remember correctly from a news report last week, this happened to both Nixon and Kennedy. In both cases they called the FBI. It's the ONLY course of action in something like this.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21894901)

This is one of the things I just do not understand.... During Obama's two terms as President the Republicans were screaming how horrible the economy was. Yes, it was horrible when it first started, but that wasn't his fault, and unemployment was cut in half while he was in office. When Obama left office the unemployment rate was in the 4% range and still they complained. Now that Trump is in office, unemployment is still in the 4% range, and suddenly Republicans are all okay with the economy as if suddenly things got better. The ONLY thing that changed is we have a new president in office who has signed no bills about the economy at all....

This is what's wrong - The economy is either good or bad. A 4% unemployment rate, no matter who is president, is good. The Republicans thought the economy was bad at the end of Obama's term, but now think it's great that a Republican in office although nothing has changed.

I'm tired of the bullshit.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21894919)

It's because the Republican party is far out of touch with reality.

The entire time running up to the campaign and during the campaign, they tried to paint Hillary as a "crook". They had over a dozen investigations, and not one of them turned up anything. This was nothing more than a witch hunt. We knew in both the email server case and with Benghazi that there was no wrong doing at all, yet they dragged out investigations for how long? Two years? Three years?

Right now we now for a fact that a foreign government has meddled in our election process. The entire situation with how Trump won was odd and ALL of the polls were proved wrong. We have a pro Russian president with obvious and very long term connections to Russia. It's only common sense that we investigate. In fact, Trump himself should be demanding a full investigation. Just the fact that he isn't demanding this indicates something is wrong. Then we have obvious attempts to obstruct justice - Trump fired the man investigating him. Now ever time we turn around there are more lies, and more information being hidden.

We are having an investigation. We are going to find out the truth. When our government investigates at this level, it's massive. They will go over every transaction, every business deal ALL of the Trump people in the past decade. God only knows what they will find.

Now we have the Republican party trying to kill our healthcare. We have healthcare, it's working. We need to fix what we have, not replace it. NO ONE wants to replace it except for a handful of Republicans in Congress. The general public does not want this replaced.

The Republicans can stop the infighting any time they want. They can start by demanding and running a bi-partisan investigation into what happened, and then they can invite the democrats in on the planning to replace healthcare instead of shutting them out.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21899227)

Exactly. Where is the info they got?

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 21896719)

That's a huge load of right wing bullshit you're spewing there.

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 21899260)

It was all of the emails that wikileaks dripped out throughout the campaign.

The Trump boys did not need to touch it, but if you look at the time lines they virtually announced every single leak because they knew what was coming.

It gave Donnie the confidence to repeatedly call Hillary a criminal and chant "lock her up" because they knew exactly when and what was about to be released. Assange was more than happy to play along because it stroked his rapist ego to know that he was wealding real power for once.

Now have I got this wrong or is Donnie Jr supposed to be running the family firm whilst Donnie Sr runs the world ?

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21899254)

My point was about the decades that Americ has been in decline and you keep going back to Obama. But America is still in decline. I do agree that the Republicans are also to blame. But please do wake up to the real problem.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21899233)

Where is the damaging info?

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21899242)

Obama did OK on the economy and fucking awful on the lives of everyday Americans.

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 21900049)

You know this how?

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21899242)

Obama did OK on the economy and fucking awful on the lives of everyday Americans.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21899278)

So you would prefer the emails stay secret. So much for freedom of speech.

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21900079)

He's been proven wrong on this over and over but he keeps repeating the same thing.

I posted the decreased unemployment rate by Obama (via graphs) I posted the increase in the stock market to record highs under Obama (via graphs). I informed him that 3 million more people voted for Clinton. But Paul Markham keeps ignoring those facts, acting like Trump has a mandate, and saying that the lives of Americans were just horrible until Trump. It's like he's not obsorbing facts on purpose to push an agenda not based on facts..

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21900181)

Next we'll find out the ninth person at the meeting was a fireman. Or a veterinarian.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21899350)

America isn't in decline at all. AT ALL.

We got the wind knocked out of us with this recession during the end of the Bush administration, and took everyone down with us. Yet here we are still standing tall, still a super power.

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 21900049)

You know this how?

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21900079)

He's been proven wrong on this over and over but he keeps repeating the same thing.

I posted the decreased unemployment rate by Obama (via graphs) I posted the increase in the stock market to record highs under Obama (via graphs). I informed him that 3 million more people voted for Clinton. But Paul Markham keeps ignoring those facts, acting like Trump has a mandate, and saying that the lives of Americans were just horrible until Trump. It's like he's not obsorbing facts on purpose to push an agenda not based on facts..

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21900106)

This might just be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

When Obama took office, unemployment was at 10% - and rising. It was stunning. I have twenty houses on my street, and exactly half of them were vacant. People had walked away from their houses because they couldn't afford the mortgage. We had multiple housing complexes here in town that had just stopped building. They started to build a restaurant two blocks from my house, and they just stopped leaving an empty shell - walls and a roof, but no windows or doors and nothing inside. They built parking lots for shopping complexes they never finished.

Obama did "okay" on the economy? Holy fucking shit Paul - Obama cut the unemployment rate by more than half.

He didn't fuck up anything. Not a single scandal. And while he did it, he created healthcare - I pay $200 a month for complete coverage for the three of us.

I wasn't a fan of Obama when he took office, and I still had my doubts in the second term, but now... Holy shit, that man worked miracles.

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 21900121)

What are you talkinq about ?

Are your emails public property ?

What has freedom of speech got to do with foreign powers hacking political parties email servers in order to try and influence elections ?

Would I prefer the emails to stay secret ? Tell me Paul what is it you think was in the emails ?

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21900571)

I'm not standing for President.