Do you consider RELIGION a mental virus?

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  • mce
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    • Jun 2012
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    #1

    Do you consider RELIGION a mental virus?

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    Is being religious inherently self-defeating or are we basing the definition on a narrow form of religion?

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  • Bladewire
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    #2
    What religion has not been destructive to the human race?


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    • Sarn
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      #3
      Religion determines morality!
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      • Barry-xlovecam
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        • Jun 2010
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        #4
        Everybody needs to believe in something.
        As long as they do no harm to others -- I really don't care.
        Unfortunately, it usually descends into my god told me to destroy you.
        Or, some kind of false superiority and smugness -- this goes beyond religion.

        Karl Marx was right but what harm are millions of addicts if they keep to themselves -- killing and cheating each other?

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        • RyuLion
          • Mar 2003
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          #5
          Originally posted by Sarn
          Religion determines morality!
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          • abinthenet
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            #6
            Do you consider RELIGION a mental virus?
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            • TheSquealer
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              • Oct 2004
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              #7
              anyone who thinks like that has no idea what religion is and what purpose it serves. since religion has existed in some form in every civilization ever... obviously it serves a vital role to our survival as a species.
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              • GFED
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                #8
                I am an anarchist and agnostic, but I believe laws and morals are necessary.
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                • Look Chang
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sarn
                  Religion determines morality!

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                  • Paul Markham
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sarn
                    Religion determines morality!
                    True. But that determination is pretty horrific.

                    I would rather say religion determines immorality.



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                    • lezinterracial
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                      #11
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                      • Sarn
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                        True. But that determination is pretty horrific.
                        I would rather say religion determines immorality.
                        "Kill the infidels" - as example in such morality)
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                        • NewNick
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sarn
                          Religion determines morality!
                          Utter horseshit.


                          And from someone who can explain why better than me....

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                          • just a punk
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                            #14
                            "Religion is the opium of the people."

                            ~ Karl Marx.
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                            • Sarn
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by NewNick
                              Utter horseshit.
                              And from someone who can explain why better than me....
                              Holy inquisition already going to you

                              Originally posted by CyberSEO
                              "Religion is the opium of the people."

                              ~ Karl Marx.
                              As i know in Mark's time opium had used like a painkiller
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                              • ContentBay
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                                #16
                                We are all on this board doing the devil's work right? xD

                                Of course religion is a virus, but so is money, ideas, dogmas, etc.

                                Once it becomes "organized" that's when shit happens

                                I know religious people who are cool and other ones who are just gone...

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                                • CPA-Rush
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                                  #17
                                  actually religion is only instructions , morality been with humans before any religion .

                                  i believe in god but i don't take moral advices from religious people " cause allergy to me" they tend to be hypocrites .

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                                  • Look Chang
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                    "Religion is the opium of the people."

                                    ~ Karl Marx.
                                    100% true but I prefer smoking pot.

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                                    • Klen
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                                      #19
                                      Purpose of religion is to spend your time if you dont have anything to do.

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                                      • CaptainHowdy
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                                        #20
                                        Religions exist nowadays?? That would be odd.

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                                        • Bladewire
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by CPA-Rush
                                          actually religion is only instructions , morality been with humans before any religion .
                                          100% true.

                                          Some idiots have to be told an imaginary powerful being said "Do not have sexual relations with your father?s wife; that would dishonor your father." (Leviticus 18:8) in order for them not to do what the rest of us know is common sense.


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                                          • Bladewire
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                                            #22





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                                            • Sarn
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by CPA-Rush
                                              actually religion is only instructions , morality been with humans before any religion .
                                              i believe in god but i don't take moral advices from religious people " cause allergy to me" they tend to be hypocrites .
                                              Today we have many moral laws which come from religion. Many are fixed in modern laws, do not kill, do not steal etc...
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                                              • mce
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                What religion has not been destructive to the human race?
                                                BBC - Religion: Jainism

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                                                • Bladewire
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Sarn
                                                  Today we have many moral laws which come from religion. Many are fixed in modern laws, do not kill, do not steal etc...
                                                  Our laws don't come from religion you dope!

                                                  Humans made the Bible based on laws and suoerstitions of their time, not the other way around you dope.


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                                                  • RedFred
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Sarn
                                                    Religion determines morality!


                                                    If you can't determine right from wrong you lack empathy, not religion.

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                                                    • Sarn
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                      Our laws don't come from religion you dope!

                                                      Humans made the Bible based on laws and suoerstitions of their time, not the other way around you dope.
                                                      These rules were developed and developed over the years.
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                                                      • Sarn
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by RedFred
                                                        If you can't determine right from wrong you lack empathy, not religion.
                                                        Who wrote what right and what is wrong?
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                                                        • Spunky
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                                                          #29
                                                          Jesus is lord!

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                                                          • Bladewire
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Spunky
                                                            Jesus is lord!
                                                            No. Jesus is the son of the Lord. WTF is wrong with you nutbags


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                                                            • RedFred
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Sarn
                                                              Who wrote what right and what is wrong?

                                                              If you think empathy is learned from something that is written I've got some terrible news for you.

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                                                              • shake
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Sarn
                                                                Who wrote what right and what is wrong?
                                                                People did, long before the skygod trend...
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                                                                • TheSquealer
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by shake
                                                                  People did, long before the skygod trend...
                                                                  what was that? during the volcano god trend? the sun god trend? the star god trend? what was that period in mans history that was without religion?
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                                                                  • Bladewire
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                    what was that? during the volcano god trend? the sun god trend? the star god trend? what was that period in mans history that was without religion?
                                                                    Caveman times





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                                                                    • Look Chang
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      It's a pity that sheeps slave of religions are not conscious enough to live an autonomous constructive life.

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                                                                      • crockett
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                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                        • 76818

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Sarn
                                                                        These rules were developed and developed over the years.
                                                                        That wasn't always on our money.. The religious right wing nutters got it added in the 50s..

                                                                        A law passed in a Joint Resolution by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by President Dwight Eisenhower on July 30, 1956, declared "In God We Trust" must appear on American currency. This phrase was first used on paper money in 1957, when it appeared on the one-dollar silver certificate.

                                                                        Also, yes I think anyone who believes in invisible made up gods has some screws loose..
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                                                                        • Konda
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Jesus = Santa for grown ups

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                                                                          • Spunky
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                                            No. Jesus is the son of the Lord. WTF is wrong with you nutbags
                                                                            Jesus forgives everybody, halleluiah

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                                                                            • CaptainHowdy
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Spunky
                                                                              Jesus forgives everybody, halleluiah
                                                                              ...

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                                                                              • Sarn
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by RedFred
                                                                                If you think empathy is learned from something that is written I've got some terrible news for you.
                                                                                Morality not equal with empathy. Morality exploatate empathy in some form, and have much bigger value.
                                                                                Originally posted by shake
                                                                                People did, long before the skygod trend...
                                                                                yes years like 12 thousand ago.
                                                                                When people had ran around the forest and engaged in cannibalism - and think it is good and right
                                                                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter-gatherer
                                                                                Originally posted by Look Chang
                                                                                It's a pity that sheeps slave of religions are not conscious enough to live an autonomous constructive life.
                                                                                Sheeps have many common with us
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                                                                                Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                That wasn't always on our money.. The religious right wing nutters got it added in the 50s..
                                                                                A law passed in a Joint Resolution by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by President Dwight Eisenhower on July 30, 1956, declared "In God We Trust" must appear on American currency. This phrase was first used on paper money in 1957, when it appeared on the one-dollar silver certificate.
                                                                                Also, yes I think anyone who believes in invisible made up gods has some screws loose..
                                                                                ok religion it is mental virus which must teach nutters to morality

                                                                                The Ten Commandments, also known as the Decalogue, are a set of biblical laws relating to ethics and worship, which play a fundamental role in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. The commandments include instructions to worship only God, to honour one's parents, and to keep the sabbath, as well as prohibitions against idolatry, blasphemy, murder, adultery, theft, dishonesty, and coveting. Different religious groups follow different traditions for interpreting and numbering them.
                                                                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments
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                                                                                • Bladewire
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                                                                                  #41


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                                                                                  • SilentKnight
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Sarn
                                                                                    Religion determines morality!
                                                                                    Bullshit.

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                                                                                    • Sarn
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                                                                      Bullshit.
                                                                                      Arguments?
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                                                                                      • TheSquealer
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                                                                                        • Oct 2004
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        the logical question is "if i represent such a tiny minority, is not being religious a mental disease"

                                                                                        "by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life estimates that there are 5.8 billion religiously affiliated adults and children around the globe, representing 84% of the 2010 world population of 6.9 billion."
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                                                                                        • crockett
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                          the logical question is "if i represent such a tiny minority, is not being religious a mental disease"

                                                                                          "by the Pew Research Center?s Forum on Religion & Public Life estimates that there are 5.8 billion religiously affiliated adults and children around the globe, representing 84% of the 2010 world population of 6.9 billion."
                                                                                          If everyone was smart and could think for themselves, there would be no leaders.. The simple fact is Christians are called sheep and followers by their own book...Just as muslims are.

                                                                                          Religion is just a tool to control people to stop them from thinking for themselves. Most people want to be told what to do, for those that don't religion was the way to force them into being a follower..

                                                                                          Govts eventually took over that role..
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                                                                                            • Paul Markham
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                                                              No. Jesus is the son of the Lord. WTF is wrong with you nutbags
                                                                                              Jesus was one of 100s of preachers going around in the ME at the time. He was pretty insignificant and the only thing that made him great were those who followed him.



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                                                                                              • Paul Markham
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                what was that? during the volcano god trend? the sun god trend? the star god trend? what was that period in mans history that was without religion?
                                                                                                Man needed religion before the 19th Century to keep us organised. Today it's a force for disorganisation.



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                                                                                                • Paul Markham
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Sarn
                                                                                                  Arguments?
                                                                                                  Easy. Islam, Judaism, Hindus, etc. Aren't a force for good, they have a very strict doctrine that punishes anyone who steps out of line.

                                                                                                  Christianity was a pretty good way to live one's life. Until the Christain got hold of it.



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                                                                                                  • Sarn
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                    Easy. Islam, Judaism, Hindus, etc. Aren't a force for good, they have a very strict doctrine that punishes anyone who steps out of line.
                                                                                                    Christianity was a pretty good way to live one's life. Until the Christain got hold of it.
                                                                                                    Yes in political life - religion make people's life like in middle ages.
                                                                                                    But as a part of culture and history and morality is a good foundation.
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