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Old 04-21-2003, 12:11 AM   #1
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WHO wants to buy opt in lists
Hi.. how much would you pay for opt in list with all info.. would be best if you could just buy fresh ones daily or weekly or something

includes info such as time/date stamp, IP address, first name, sex, date of birth, sexual orientation

how much per email??

thx

btw.. please don't send sarcastic remarks just because you're mad because you only got 2 sign ups off your gallery today.
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:15 AM   #2
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Old 04-21-2003, 01:10 AM   #3
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Old 04-21-2003, 01:23 AM   #4
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Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
Hi.. how much would you pay for opt in list with all info.. would be best if you could just buy fresh ones daily or weekly or something

includes info such as time/date stamp, IP address, first name, sex, date of birth, sexual orientation

how much per email??

thx

btw.. please don't send sarcastic remarks just because you're mad because you only got 2 sign ups off your gallery today.
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Old 04-21-2003, 01:40 AM   #6
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dude.. it's ok man... there is probably a temp agency where you can get a job until all the CJ traffic starts to come in..


Btw.. I pay affiliates $1/name for these... so I was thinking I could sell them to a couple ppl for say like $.50/name and then mail them myself regularly... but I really do pay $1/confirmed.. it has all info and they are good..
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Old 04-21-2003, 01:41 AM   #8
Donnie Gangsta
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about $.03 per record
I typically get about 20-25 joins per 100k mailed on the fresh ones.. and this is every time they're mailed.. (which is daily)... so they're worth more than that.... and PLUS, since it has sexual orientation and zip code, YOU can find potential male lovers in your area pretty easily..
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Old 04-21-2003, 02:02 AM   #9
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I typically get about 20-25 joins per 100k mailed on the fresh ones.. and this is every time they're mailed.. (which is daily)... so they're worth more than that.... and PLUS, since it has sexual orientation and zip code, YOU can find potential male lovers in your area pretty easily..
How long is a list "fresh"?
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I typically get about 20-25 joins per 100k mailed on the fresh ones.. and this is every time they're mailed.. (which is daily)... so they're worth more than that.... and PLUS, since it has sexual orientation and zip code, YOU can find potential male lovers in your area pretty easily..

One in 4000 or 5000 doesn't sound that fresh of a list
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about 6-8 weeks or so for those kinda #'s.. they gradually die, depending on how hard you flog them.. usually they're worth like $1 per email over time, realistically... but that's over a long time.. like 3-5 months to get your $ back if you paid affiliates $1/ea or something.. I think most opt in programs sell their lists immediately to make up the $1.. so I figured I might as well try too.
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One in 4000 or 5000 doesn't sound that fresh of a list
these aren't credit card names. it's double opt in .. some ppl will just never sign up.. and that's 1:4000 every day .. so if you average it over a month, that's 1:111 to 1:166
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I thought the digihax post was the stupidest thing I'd seen all day and then you went and quoted it. I am trying to figure out which is dumber, the egg or the chicken.

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these aren't credit card names. it's double opt in .. some ppl will just never sign up.. and that's 1:4000 every day .. so if you average it over a month, that's 1:111 to 1:166
You should consider selling off a small number at a deep discount or running a test mailing for certain interested parties. I might be interested if you have real double opt-ins and I know one or two others who might be, as well. $.50/record is a touch steep on faith, though.

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wtf ?
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Old 04-21-2003, 02:23 AM   #16
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wtf ?
Holy shit. Looks like there's some stiff competition in here.

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Old 04-21-2003, 02:37 AM   #17
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these aren't credit card names. it's double opt in .. some ppl will just never sign up.. and that's 1:4000 every day .. so if you average it over a month, that's 1:111 to 1:166
Not sure what you are saying and maybe my math is off but 1:4000 everyday is 1:4000 at the end of the month. How do you come up with 1:166 because it sounds like two different lists entirely.
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man <b>digihax</b> thats a really quick way to get yourself banned from GFY


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I thought the digihax post was the stupidest thing I'd seen all day and then you went and quoted it. I am trying to figure out which is dumber, the egg or the chicken.

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Not sure what you are saying and maybe my math is off but 1:4000 everyday is 1:4000 at the end of the month. How do you come up with 1:166 because it sounds like two different lists entirely.
You're mailing to the same list every day. So by the end of the month, you will have 600 to 900 people from the list join.

600 to 900 is 1:111 to 1:166. Not 1:111 click ratio per day, but people 1 out of 111 people on the list will eventually end up joining after 30 days.
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Old 04-21-2003, 10:37 AM   #21
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You're mailing to the same list every day. So by the end of the month, you will have 600 to 900 people from the list join.

600 to 900 is 1:111 to 1:166. Not 1:111 click ratio per day, but people 1 out of 111 people on the list will eventually end up joining after 30 days.
that's a horrible assumption.

the amount of people who signup is likely going to decrease over time as they'll be pissed after getting 30 days of the same spam
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