trust me i want to fight.

but you actually seem to know what faith is about.

there is NOTHING wrong with faith and i wish more christians actuaklly had it.

thought is the only process i intended to trigger topnight.

enjoy your family, i miss mine.

im 2000 miles from my family tonight.

enjoy it while you can.

:glugglug

I believe my advice was the best... live and let live

It's all cool man...

I'm more of the belief that maybe Christ didn't even die on the cross....that he got married had kids etc.

http://www.karenlyster.com/body_bookish1.html

Been wanting to pick this book up.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...800665-9877534

that's good to know :glugglug

think about that when you pick out your sons christmas presents.

:Graucho

will do, btw i'm married but no kids...........yet
(still practicing:Graucho )

kids will naturally be evil.

its up to you to stir them away from the flame.

most dads cannot.

see you at the end of the tunnell.

i'd be interested to know ( when you have kids )
what, if any believes/values you'd teach them ?

So what? Are Christians limited to what The Bible tells them they CAN do? Isn't it bad enough it tells them so many things they can't?

Well, I'm not Fletch, but I am pagan, and I have a nine year old...here's what I have taught her.

Do what thou wilt, 'an it harm none. You might know this idea as "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Hurting people is wrong. Killing people is wrong. Why? Not because Big Daddy in the sky said so, but because it is wrong to impose your will on others. I do not have the right to use force, fear, or greater might to change your path.

Lying is wrong, because without all the information you need to have, you can't make an informed decision about the choices you make.

Sex is NOT wrong, as long as all parties involved are fully informed (and that means being old enough, age-of-consent-wise) and fully understand the risks and the benefits involved in sexual activity, of whatever kind you choose. That rules out rape, incest, kids, animals, etc...but if my kid grows up and decides that she wants to be lesbian/bi/wear a wetsuit and a viking helmet while she does it with midget clowns -- I will happily support her decision.

She's growing up in a poly household, BTW -- and she knows my lovers, loves them like they were family -- and she has a harder time understanding monogamy as it is practiced in our culture than she does with poly. She thinks that adults behaving the way they do over sex -- lying to their partners, cheating, hurting and killing each other over relationships -- is the stupidest thing ever. During one talk about this, she looked at me and said, "Geez, Mama, I learned to share when I was a little kid. What's their problem?"

My other favorite comment of hers was when I started to try to explain Christianity...I started out with the basics. "Well, babe, they believe in only one god."

"Really? Which one?"

As far as I can tell, she's growing up a well-adjusted, smart, very cool little person...I see the way her Christian-raised friends regularly behave, and it saddens me. Besides, she wants to be Goth...there is no bad here. :)

TRUTH you heathen, truth.

id explain to my children that life is a cycle, and that at one time man fiered when th sun went away for winter, it may never come back.

and i will say, that because man believed so much in the earth and himself, that he rejoiced, and he gave praise to the Sun and The Moon, do this only because you want to, and you want to prosper with you crops and your family, and your beleifs.

ive obviously thought muich more about what i would tell my kids, than you have. I will try to give him/her an honest explanation of why man does what he does.

just because you choose to lie to your children, doesnt mean i will lie to mine.

nor will i feed them the ignorance you hide in a pacifier.

and you know this because......??

fair enough :glugglug

please stop smoking whatever you're smoking or learn to read
"i do not have children" and if you meant to say that i will lie to
them, then please show me one post where i mention kids or
what i will teach them ! (stop fishing mate)

peace :glugglug

because it means i get to enjoy 2 public holidays :) :thumbsup

coming from a piece of scum leech who hangs out at GFY to gain posters.

you are the most stupid person on GFY, have you realized this?

you hang out here, gathering icq nuymbers and emails trying to get people to post on your board.

pathetic is an understatement.

this guy emails and icqs people from GFY to ask them to visit his board and post.

this type of shit doesnt even get much attention.

jump through another hoop.

Siskel and Ebert say .. :thumbsup :thumbsup

What do you tell your kids about lying in order to not hurt people?

Because it gets me a day off work. That's why.

What ya looking for people to say?

Christ rose from the dead, brought forth new life, all we can do is reflect back to what has already been, and draw celebration as a form of rememberance of that day. Yes, man made day.

Just like we reflect back on Christmas as the day Jesus was born, and celebrate. Man made holiday as well.

But the events has to have occured for man to want to celebrate them.

Since "Good Friday" is actually supposed to be a solemn day for Christians, I don't think his death is actually celebrated as much as observed with reverence.

However, "Easter Sunday", or Jesus resurrection may be a time for celebration because of it's fulfillment of the scripture, and confirming for christians that Christ was the true savior.


Someday, God's heavenly "siren" will sound and the dead in Christ will be resurrected! (1 Thess. 4:16-18) says, "The Lord Himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever."

Jesus promises that a time will come when those who are in their graves will hear His voice and come out (John 5:28-29). He says, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies" (John 11:25).

Although there are some christians who disagree with the "celebration" of easter as a religeous holiday...

"You ask why Christians celebrate Easter. You may be surprised to find that there are many who do not celebrate Easter as a particular, religious holiday. Many congregations of what are known as the churches of Christ and some other Christian groups object to celebrating Easter any differently than any other Sunday. It is their contention that they celebrate the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ every Sunday in the weekly observance of the Lord's Supper and do not need a special Sunday to celebrate those events. Some particularly object to Easter as it falls on the calendar because the Catholic Church specifically designated Easter so it would not fall during or near Passover in most years. (2002 is an exception.) The Orthodox Church celebrates Easter on an even different Sunday than do the Catholics and most Protestant groups that grew out of the Catholic tradition. So while some Christians choose one special day to remember the resurrection of Christ others do so every week.

The Easter bunny and Easter eggs may have their origin in pagan, or at least non-Christian, rituals. As you point out, so do many other things in modern Christian practice. This would include most Christmas customs including the date thereof, many wedding customs including the honeymoon, and even saying "bless you" when someone sneezes. The Easter bunny and Easter eggs have become a part of the celebration because they represent the rebirth of spring, a time in which Jesus was resurrected to a renewal of life. As I said in answer to another question most people don't even know of these origins, so the practice itself would only be objectionable if they knew, and insisted on doing it for its original religious reasons. If the customs are followed as customs and not as religious practices then the Bible says nothing to forbid them. In fact it specifically forbids people from judging others based on such customs. "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days." (Col 2:16) "

http://www.geocities.com/riversideco...ns/easter.html

Fuck it. 100. Why not?

:glugglug

http://www.photocartoonist.com/greet...er/easter.html

:)