AndyA

No but 99% of american families benefit from ObamaCare and the Affordable Care act

We ALL benefit because the ACA keeps insurance rates down.... when they repeal it we wil all suffer for a few that want a tax break

AndyA

I;m not saying 1% pay for 99% but the 1% willing to fuck over 99% of the US.. fuck YES these cock suckers should be shot...

if it was my kid about to lose his healthcare I would be the one shooting.. starting with you

Bladewire

This is only the beginning.

The Electoral College was put into place to protect America from a Trump presidency, it failed, and the majority of Americans don't support Trump, and Trump doesn't give a shit. If Trump tried bringing people together after separating them to be annointed POTUS, things would be different.

Trump, six months after the election, tweets almost daily about Democrats being bitter, keeping them bitter.

We do have laws etc but with racial gerrymandering and majority not ruling, and the people in power only caring about taking away people's rights, healthcare, and stealing from the treasury , what do people feel they have left to do when the system isn't working for them? I don't condone shooting and injuring congressman.

AndyA

If my kids lives depended on these assholes decisions I would be fucking up anyone that might cause my children problems...

AndyA

I betcha someone is at a gun range right now with a picture of Trump on a tree

Bladewire

Yep!

Phoenix

Wait, weren't people screaming Obamacare ruined everyones healthcare and drove the bills up? Are they up even more now?

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Sly

Yes.

Mine has increased from $300, to $350, to $500. Everyone in my family has a similar story.

This year I pay $500 a month, had to switch all of my doctors, with a deductible at $5000.

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Bladewire

Oh wait ...

28 million, minimum are going to LOSE healthcare GONE.

And insurance companies are going to continue to fuck us over, just watch. And the current healthcare bill gives less for the same high prices.

People are rising up because they feel powerless.

Bladewire

You can thank the insurance companies for that.

You do realize all of the insurance companies made billions in profits last year right? One was 26% profit over the previous year.

Rates going up is the insurance companies wanting more profit, when they don't get as much as they want they drop out of an exchange.

This is the problem having public companies as insurance middlemen, their investors demand more return and the health insurance companies fuck over customers, hospitals & the government to keep increasing profit, as they have for decades.

The insurance companies are the problem, they always have been and they'll fuck us under Trumpcare because that's what they do.

Sly

Absolutely. And this was highly predicted when Obamacare first rolled out but few wanted to listen because they were so focused on the shiny toy. There were no true repercussions for this happening.

Obamacare was a cheap quick Band-Aid to a horrible, horrible problem, and now things are going to be significantly worse.

I agree with you 100%. A publicly traded company has one goal: make investors money. In the health chain, there is a whole pyramid of publicly trading companies from the bottom to the top. Each wanting their piece of the pie.

I'm currently in the process of outright buying a piece of medical equipment that costs around $4,500. My doctor writes out a prescription that he sends straight to a medical supply company (publicly traded.) Medical supply company then deals with my insurance company (publicly traded) and charges them $750 a month (or so they claim) for that same exact piece of equipment.

That piece of medical equipment will last me 5 years minimum. So we are looking at $750 a month, for 5 years, that's close to $40,000 for what I can buy outright at $4500.

Yes, insurance companies suck. So does the whole chain of sycophants.

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Acepimp

BladeLIAR, why do you ignore facts? It's NOT 28 million people, it's about 3 million. That's it.

Obamacare was also funded illegally by stealing the money from Fannie Mae and Fredie Mac investors.

Get some fucking facts already you hysterical libtard.

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Good we agree. Your partisan bullshit is stupid so I removed it. Us getting fucked by insurance companies isn't a partisan issue and as long as you allow yourself to be divided they win and we lose.

thommy

exactly - this fucking hate does ot make only muslims to terrorists.

i am sure this is just the start - if this guy will not be kicked out from the white house america will go into a civil war. it is just a question of time. and that was exactly what the brainwasher wanted who brainwashed all this guys to vote for him.

i am so glad that europe have learned something from that and right wings fuck down all around here.

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Bladewire

If America goes into civil war again the Confederates will be completely exterminated this time, they've almost rotted America from the inside out with their racism, hate and support for terrorist & the mentally ill to own guns.

The GOP Confederates will be eliminated from America if there's another civil war, they want blacks and Hispanics as second class citizens and combined they are 30% of our population, and that's just one faction against them

Rochard

Where do you live?

I live in California and I have Kaiser, which is large and well known in California. Before Obamacare I was paying $1200 a month. Obamacare reduced that to something like $117 a month, and at point my wife's company agreed to pay it.

I believe that how well Obamacare does depends on the local state government. Some states got behind Obamacare and worked to make it effective, other states not so much. I live in California where we have a large population, but other states only have one or two providers.

I honestly believe that we need to get the federal government more involved here and put caps on costs.

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crockett

Those people were too stupid to figure out that ACA = Obamacare.. Suddenly when they realized they voted to repel their own insurance they started crying again.. Now they suddenly want to keep it but Republicans are still trying to kill it at this very moment behind closed doors where no one even their own party members knows what they are doing..

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Barry-xlovecam

Yesterday; Tuesday -- Donald Trump says House-passed health care bill is "mean"

So, is this just a deflection -- SODDI Don't blame me "some other dude did it!"

Who is the dog and who is the tail?

crockett

The reason your insurance went up is because you live in Texas.. Texas is Republican run state who are trying to make Obamacare fail. Your story is the same in every Red state which failed to properly adopt Obamacare and the medicare mandate. By doing this your govt officials created a situation where your costs will increase each year which was their plan in the 1st place..

Obamacare doesn't work for you, because your state sucks and your state lawmakers suck even more.. My state also sucks being another Right wing hell hold.. Your experience with Obamacare is bad, because that's what your state representatives wanted for you. They wanted you to hate it..,

Obamacare was never perfect but it could have been made very good. If Republicans spent half the time trying to help Democrats fix Obamacare instead of fighting it. We would of had a very good healthcare system. Instead Republicans choose obstruction and destruction of our country..

Congrats.. today's shooting is likely the start of many more. When will you guys learn that the people you support are creating policies which harm you and destroy people's lives? You think people will go on being silent when they feel their vote no longer matters or they are powerless to do anything.. This is only the start..

Trump & Republicans have the power to change their ways are start working for the people instead of fucking the people. It's their choice which road we continue to go down..


BTW your state of Texas was one of the states who has illegally gerrymandered voting districts to silence the voice of minority voters..

Federal Court Rules Three Texas Congressional Districts Illegally Drawn : The Two-Way : NPR

This is what your Republicans do and you wonder why someone wants to shoot them on a baseball field.. I'm simply amazed it hasn't happened sooner.

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Bladewire

If Trump says it's mean that translates to very very very bad. And the GOP doesn't give a shit, it's all about the 1% and multi billion dollar multinational corporations.

They're going to fuck us all over and act shocked afterwards then blame Obama, Clinton & Carter and the Trump supporters will believe them & continue supporting them.

AndyA

how do you get a republican to finally vote for common sense gun control against high powered rifles?
shoot them then ask them again

thommy

i think the problem in US is the "american way of life". wich means there could be millions of working and existing health care systems in the world what could be adopted - america wants to have his own way.

and sure is one of the biggest problems that the health care industry is just another corruption and lobby driven ripp off.

i will not say that spain is the nonplusultra health care system in the world but if i go to a pharmacy here to buy whatever it costs the half or even less as anywhere else because prices are more or less controlled.

same thing with hospitals. yes they have private hospitals but even the public hospitals are highly modern and charge a fraction of the private ones.

the health care system in US is the worst in the whole western world. but it is not like that since trump or obama - it was always like that.

americans are even proud on their 100% free market but the only "freedom" is found in the fact that even companies what are dealing with health (what should not be a privilege) are free to ripp people off.
and the first thing this fuck of a president does is calculating nonsense and eliminating things like obama´s consumer protection law.

i really wonder how comes that americans can think that they are free.

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AndyA

Why should ANYONE lose their insurance asshole?

AndyA

and you think the Republican bill will help you?


your a fucking idiot

AndyA

Sly actually your not an idiot

your typical

people that really don't understand the insurance market...

so you understand...the Republican bill will be worse for you... Obamacare is the MOST republican bill EVER

make everyone pay for health insurance... I meant, Mitt Romney came up with it

it's a great plan although FREE single payer would be better

Bladewire

They had security with them, and now they're going to vote to spend more money to get more security so they are protected from guns, unlike all the rest of us

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I lived in Australia 5 years and that's basically what they have there, minus the monthly insurance bill, super cheap meds & $20 office visits and no monthly bill for insurance $0.

If they can do it, America can, but Republicans like Sly will fight it, because they think it's bad, go figure.

CoolMikey

No, you fool, it depends on whether you are getting subsidies or not. If you are getting subsidies then no shit, it works great for you, it's free $$ from the government for you, someone on the hand who isn't getting subsidies is getting fucked in the ass with no lube by paying extra so someone like you can get subsidies. That's why about half the population is opposed to this horseshit and wants Obamacare gone.

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baddog

BladeLiar showing all of us why he failed American Civics class. Does not even know why the EC was created.

You are quickly becoming the dumbest European on my radar.

Barry-xlovecam

How do you "KNOW" USA has the worst health care system? From what you read thommy? It is not the worst heathcare system in the world -- I know this from a series of surgeries that probably saved my life. However -- it was expensive as fuck -- even WITH insurance.

The right statement is that 'the USA has one of the most expensive healthcare systems in the world'. It does not offer "outstanding" outcomes however we US American live lives of excess and that is a factor I suppose. We, as a people (most of us) are not particularly egalitarian nor feel forced into frugality.

Acepimp

First, the ACA will be replaced with something that's actually affordable.

Second, Obamacare is nothing but a taxpayer ripoff that was written by the insurance companies to make them even richer.

Get some facts already, you hysterical libtard.

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crockett

This, Obamacare works great in states that wanted it to work... the key words are "wanted it to work"..

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Whitey strikes again

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crockett

Well they are more important than us of course, I mean on average 93 people are killed every day in this country by guns, 2 times as many are also wounded.. We aren't talking about any of those people, just a Congressman who became a statistic..

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Bladewire

Oh you started drinking early again.

What's your purpose in life? Spreading hate to people everyday isn't a purpose, it's pathetic.

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Bladewire

That's tame

I'm happy in life and totally comfortable so I'd never do anything or condone it, but we can all understand where people like him are coming from. The Burners are the most radical left and mostly disaffected males.

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Congress Baseball Shooter Is a Trump Hater, Called to 'Destroy' Trump | TMZ.com

They will build their draconian response based on this. Notice I say they?

This guy is dead BTW. Dead men don't talk -- so who the fuck will really know.

Gunman dead after attacking congressmen at Virginia baseball field - BBC News

Anyway, the BBC says the shooter moved to Virginia so the congressmen and thier security detail officers* shot were victims of opportunity perhaps -- sad state of affairs ...

Acepimp

You're right! The Bernie supporters were right to feel jilted when Hillary and DNC Debbie Shultz rigged the primaries and robbed Bernie of the nomination.

Bernie Bro Seth Rich was so angry that he gave us the DNC leaks & exposed the whole thing. It's a shame the Dems had him taken out for it.

But THIS shooter is just a poor victim of the hysterical fakestream media & the general culture of Trump hate.

It's all manufactured by the DNC cronies, you utter fucking libtards! Be thankful she lost!!

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baddog

Where do you get your facts; from the same place as the VA Governor that said it was 93 million?


Murder by gun: 5162
http://www.romans322.com/daily-death-rate-statistics.php

Murders by gun per day: 31.475

More liberal lies

baddog

My purpose is to point out your incessant lies.

Acepimp

This is the part where Bladewire ignores your facts and calls you a fake nic.

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Bladewire

I lived in Australia 5 years and no insurance payments in Australia and it's top of the line healthcare and cheap.

Americans goto Mexico to get the same healthcare cheaper, says a lot about our system here.

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Klen

One thing is health system, and another is health insurance. For example, if you want best possible treatment on world, you go to USA, but if you want normal health insurance you go anywhere else.
And it's not just Mexico where they go for fixing health, they go to Europe as well. We have here a lot of health tourists as operations here are extremely cheap.

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Bladewire

Fuck off drunk. You insult everyone here that's not on the alt-right.

You never insult your fellow alt-right losers when they lie, or yourself when you lie, only people who didn't vote Trump and you do it when they are NOT LYING, and that's the truth.

Stop lying and just be honest, your life really sucks and you feel better putting strangers down everyday, it's all you do here every day. Not a day goes by that you don't call names and insult at least 4 people here.

Your post history on your profile is page after page of one line drive by insults, and for that, you deserve the shit life you've got. Spreading hate is easy, anyone can do it, and I just gave yours back to you

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Sarn

Are you sure?

directfiesta

You fit the profile of a unbalanced person , pôlarized by '' my side '' vs '' your side '' ...

You could very well be the next shooter ....

Bladewire

Nothing he says matters because it's a fake nic and he'll disapear when things change to another nic

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