clickadu are liars

**CaptainHowdy** · 06-07-2017, 06:20 AM

Sorry to hear that ...

**freecartoonporn** · 06-07-2017, 06:41 AM

nice tactics.

**mrmister** · 06-07-2017, 06:45 AM

Originally posted by freecartoonporn

nice tactics.

yeah my fault, for falling for it for the second time

**mrmister** · 06-07-2017, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by CaptainHowdy

Sorry to hear that ...

indeed, now they are asking which network prepaid the offer, and screenshots of such case, in order to beat it

funny how they didnt ask that before I put the code in, plus, its non of their concern

**j3rkules** · 06-07-2017, 07:15 AM

Thanks for sharing your experience. Much appreciated.

**mrmister** · 06-07-2017, 08:14 AM

Before I put the ad codes in, i told them I'm getting 3.5 EUR cpm for my pops from an individual for my gay twink traffic.. clickadu are now basically calling me a liar, unreal

" First of all, currently your traffic doesn't make enough conversions for 3.5 EUR CPM. That is why we ask who pays you that price cause without a proof it sounds like you want to make us fools.

I told you that we could pay more than 3.5 EUR if your current advert pays you that price for sure.

My management also confirms that we can pay no matter how much but you should provide a proof that you get that money with other network.

Our company is well oriented in the market, and no one can actually pay you more than us.

Please don't get angry, just provide the details requested by us, and we provide the price requested by you. It's a fair deal."

So, they email me saying they can beat my rate, I tell them the rate, they tell me they have a buyer ready to beat.. i add the code in, its 1.4 cpm, they then tell me I need to prove to them Im getting 3.5cpm.. I don't think its any of their concern

Why should I need to provide proof to them? They initiated the contact

**mrmister** · 06-07-2017, 08:48 AM

they have offered to pay me at 3.5 rate for today, which is nice of them

but guys, before you email customers and tell them they can beat their rate, at least come through with it next time

its a slap in face when you ask for proof, not all of us deal with big ad networks so providing proof isnt so easy as I could knock up a fake icq chat log in seconds

**freecartoonporn** · 06-07-2017, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by mrmister

Before I put the ad codes in, i told them I'm getting 3.5 EUR cpm for my pops from an individual for my gay twink traffic.. clickadu are now basically calling me a liar, unreal

" First of all, currently your traffic doesn't make enough conversions for 3.5 EUR CPM. That is why we ask who pays you that price cause without a proof it sounds like you want to make us fools.

I told you that we could pay more than 3.5 EUR if your current advert pays you that price for sure.

My management also confirms that we can pay no matter how much but you should provide a proof that you get that money with other network.

Our company is well oriented in the market, and no one can actually pay you more than us.

Please don't get angry, just provide the details requested by us, and we provide the price requested by you. It's a fair deal."

So, they email me saying they can beat my rate, I tell them the rate, they tell me they have a buyer ready to beat.. i add the code in, its 1.4 cpm, they then tell me I need to prove to them Im getting 3.5cpm.. I don't think its any of their concern

Why should I need to provide proof to them? They initiated the contact

this reminds me scene from "django unchained"

**mrmister** · 06-07-2017, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by freecartoonporn

this reminds me scene from "django unchained"

which scene?

**Klen** · 06-07-2017, 10:14 AM

Btw, howmuch do you get for china traffic now ?

**mrmister** · 06-07-2017, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by KlenTelaris

Btw, howmuch do you get for china traffic now ?

Im not sure, I hardly get any now, it stopped about 4-6 months ago, just dropped off a cliff, it was a shame as it was a nice earner, even exoclick gave me 0.8 eur CPM for it

Now Im just left with US and EU

**Klen** · 06-07-2017, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by mrmister

Im not sure, I hardly get any now, it stopped about 4-6 months ago, just dropped off a cliff, it was a shame as it was a nice earner, even exoclick gave me 0.8 eur CPM for it

Now Im just left with US and EU

Yeah nobody making money with China traffic now. There was once value of china traffic 7$ per 1k, then i wanted to buy traffic directly from you

**freecartoonporn** · 06-07-2017, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by mrmister

which scene?

Code:

1386
01:45:34,204 --> 01:45:37,624
Eskimo Joe's a quality hahahahahaha,
no doubt about it.

1387
01:45:39,001 --> 01:45:44,172
But if it was my money,
I wouldn't pay no $12,000 for him.

1388
01:45:44,339 --> 01:45:46,675
What would your price be?

1389
01:45:46,842 --> 01:45:48,802
Well, if I was inclined
to be generous...

1390
01:45:48,969 --> 01:45:52,431
and I don't know why
I would be inclined to be generous...

1391
01:45:53,390 --> 01:45:56,643
9,000. Maybe.

1392
01:45:57,894 --> 01:46:03,692
Dr. Schultz, let me reclarify how
this whole negotiation came about.

1393
01:46:03,859 --> 01:46:06,028
You see, it wasn't me
who came to you to sell a hahahahahaha.

1394
01:46:06,194 --> 01:46:07,154
Sure wasn't.

1395
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,031
It was you who approached me to buy one.

1396
01:46:09,197 --> 01:46:11,366
- Sure was.
- Now, that $9,000 figure

1397
01:46:11,533 --> 01:46:13,952
Bright Boy's been bandyin' about,
that ain't too far off from right.

1398
01:46:14,119 --> 01:46:15,839
And if I wanted to sell
Eskimo Joe for that,

1399
01:46:15,912 --> 01:46:18,874
- I could do so any day of the week.
- Any day.

1400
01:46:19,041 --> 01:46:23,295
But, like you said in Greenville,
doctor... I don't want to sell him.

1401
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:27,924
It was only your ridiculous
offer of $12,000

**mrmister** · 06-07-2017, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by KlenTelaris

Yeah nobody making money with China traffic now. There was once value of china traffic 7$ per 1k, then i wanted to buy traffic directly from you

its dried up, a few of my wordpress tubes have like 1k daily of china traffic, no idea why though, maybe its the niche im in

**Bladewire** · 06-07-2017, 10:28 AM

So asking proof to seal a deal is a no go? Or is it, they forgot to ask proof so they should pay more, on principle, but you don't provide proof of yiur claims on principle? I'm confused

**mrmister** · 06-07-2017, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by freecartoonporn

Code:

1386
01:45:34,204 --> 01:45:37,624
Eskimo Joe's a quality hahahahahaha,
no doubt about it.

1387
01:45:39,001 --> 01:45:44,172
But if it was my money,
I wouldn't pay no $12,000 for him.

1388
01:45:44,339 --> 01:45:46,675
What would your price be?

1389
01:45:46,842 --> 01:45:48,802
Well, if I was inclined
to be generous...

1390
01:45:48,969 --> 01:45:52,431
and I don't know why
I would be inclined to be generous...

1391
01:45:53,390 --> 01:45:56,643
9,000. Maybe.

1392
01:45:57,894 --> 01:46:03,692
Dr. Schultz, let me reclarify how
this whole negotiation came about.

1393
01:46:03,859 --> 01:46:06,028
You see, it wasn't me
who came to you to sell a hahahahahaha.

1394
01:46:06,194 --> 01:46:07,154
Sure wasn't.

1395
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,031
It was you who approached me to buy one.

1396
01:46:09,197 --> 01:46:11,366
- Sure was.
- Now, that $9,000 figure

1397
01:46:11,533 --> 01:46:13,952
Bright Boy's been bandyin' about,
that ain't too far off from right.

1398
01:46:14,119 --> 01:46:15,839
And if I wanted to sell
Eskimo Joe for that,

1399
01:46:15,912 --> 01:46:18,874
- I could do so any day of the week.
- Any day.

1400
01:46:19,041 --> 01:46:23,295
But, like you said in Greenville,
doctor... I don't want to sell him.

1401
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:27,924
It was only your ridiculous
offer of $12,000

Mine was more like

- Hey we want to buy your gay traffic, we have advertisers willing to beat your cpm
- Okay, I pre sell mine for 3.5 eur per CPM
- Okay, please provide us with proof
- I don't have any proof
- Ok, we will send the code over

* I input code *

me - Hey, your cpm is only showing 1.4 CPM
them - yes, please leave it a few days it will go up
Me - This sounds familiar to last time I spoke to one of your reps and after 3 days the cpm emaind the same
them - I spoke to management and we need proof to beat your 3.5 CPM, please show us screenshots
me - I told you I dont have proof
them - we dont believe you are getting 3.5, so until you provide proof we cant beat it, if you do, we will beat it

**xXXtesy10** · 06-07-2017, 10:31 AM

**mrmister** · 06-07-2017, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by Bladewire

So asking proof to seal a deal is a no go? Or is it, they forgot to ask proof so they should pay more, on principle, but you don't provide proof of claims on principle? I'm confused

Well I told them I'm getting 3.5 EUR CPM, I don't have any proof apart from ICQ chat logs, but that is sensitive, why should I show them?

Sure, they need it I guess to beat it, but I told them from get go, and at no point did they stop me putting the code in once I mentioned I can't provide proof

It was only until I queried the low CPM rate that they then said they can't beat it unless I show them proof, see my post one above this

**Bladewire** · 06-07-2017, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by mrmister

Mine was more like

- Hey we want to buy your gay traffic, we have advertisers willing to beat your cpm
- Okay, I pre sell mine for 3.5 eur per CPM
- Okay, please provide us with proof
- I don't have any proof
- Ok, we will send the code over

* I input code *

me - Hey, your cpm is only showing 1.4 CPM
them - yes, please leave it a few days it will go up
Me - This sounds familiar to last time I spoke to one of your reps and after 3 days the cpm emaind the same
them - I spoke to management and we need proof to beat your 3.5 CPM, please show us screenshots
me - I told you I dont have proof
them - we dont believe you are getting 3.5, so until you provide proof we cant beat it, if you do, we will beat it

Ah! Got it 👍😉

**mrmister** · 06-07-2017, 10:37 AM

anyway I may of made this thread in haste, but their reps are always hounding me with emails, I get like 3-4 emails a week of them being able to beat my current CPM

I mean its not a big chunk of money, its just annoying the way they conduct themselves

**Bladewire** · 06-07-2017, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by mrmister

anyway I may of made this thread in haste, but their reps are always hounding me with emails, I get like 3-4 emails a week of them being able to beat my current CPM

I mean its not a big chunk of money, its just annoying the way they conduct themselves

That would be annoying, being hounded with a good deal, you bite, and it's not a good deal 😏

**mrmister** · 06-07-2017, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by Bladewire

That would be annoying, being hounded with a good deal, you bite, and it's not a good deal 😏

yep, their previous emails from sales rep looked like spam, but this one mentioned " gay traffic " which was specific to me, so I thought it was someone who saw my sites and had a specific buyer

I added the code, and guess im still just a regular customer

**Bladewire** · 06-07-2017, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by mrmister

yep, their previous emails from sales rep looked like spam, but this one mentioned " gay traffic " which was specific to me, so I thought it was someone who saw my sites and had a specific buyer

I added the code, and guess im still just a regular customer

The industry always sees our Gay content and traffic as second rate, let them think that fuck them

**Klen** · 06-07-2017, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by mrmister

anyway I may of made this thread in haste, but their reps are always hounding me with emails, I get like 3-4 emails a week of them being able to beat my current CPM

I mean its not a big chunk of money, its just annoying the way they conduct themselves

Yep, this is why i banned them on publisher level. I got e-mail also to get back, so i replied, but didnt got reply, and then same day got another 3 e-mails from same person with same or similar content. And they still act like "escort agency", as they put half nude pic of rep in bottom of e-mail. I mean seriously, this is business, not escorting. So i got pissed and decided how i'l ignore all their future messages regarding sending traffic to them. And also what is annoying, that same rep which sent those message have me on skype, knows which e-mail i have, so she could simply send me message there instead spamming the shit on e-mail.

**Bladewire** · 06-07-2017, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by KlenTelaris

I mean seriously, this is business, not escorting.

So we'll never see your dick on Skype, in email or posted here? 😢

**Klen** · 06-07-2017, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by Bladewire

So we'll never see your dick on Skype, in email or posted here? 😢

No,no and no.

**wehateporn** · 06-07-2017, 11:08 AM

I temporarily had to install some anti-virus software, for some reason it blocked them automatically

**The Porn Nerd** · 06-07-2017, 11:13 AM

So....the only way to make money with traffic is to sell it to others, who then sell it to others, who then sell it to others....one big circle jerk. Got it.

Anyone ever make any actual JOINS from all this bouncing around and traffic selling?

(Thought not. What a racket!)

**Klen** · 06-07-2017, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by The Porn Nerd

So....the only way to make money with traffic is to sell it to others, who then sell it to others, who then sell it to others....one big circle jerk. Got it.

Anyone ever make any actual JOINS from all this bouncing around and traffic selling?

(Thought not. What a racket!)

Am afraid paysites does not convert with paid traffic ;)

**Hannes** · 06-07-2017, 11:29 AM

worked with them before, not the number one company I would want to collaborate with again

**CaptainHowdy** · 06-07-2017, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by mrmister

I mean its not a big chunk of money, its just annoying the way they conduct themselves

... That's honorable.

**OneHungLo** · 06-07-2017, 04:14 PM

clickadu? Sounds more like clickaPOO

clickadu are liars

clickadu are liars

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