Most of my UK friends are against Brexit. Just saying.

If the EU were truly democratic it would ask all the people in the old Common Market if they wanted to convert to the new EU which would then work towards taking Europe in a United States of Europe.

So far politicians of both sides rarely ask the public specifically want they Europe to be.

USE is utopia, IMO, same as World Government.

I like to think Poland has hands-down the cleanest prostitutes in the region! :1orglaugh

nico-t please don't run away see we finally have something in common.

You now understand why those of us in the US who didn't vote for Trump see him as a illegitimate president.

48.2% of the people who voted, voted for Hillary Clinton.
46.1% of the people who voted, voted for Donald Trump.

5.7% of those who voted, voted for a 3rd candidate.

Meaning 53.9% of American voters voted against Trump being president. So not only did he lose the majority vote to the other main candidate, he also lost almost an additional 6% of the vote to 3rd party candidates.. Clearly the majority of the people in America chose not to have Donald Trump as our president.

Yet, the "establishment" electoral college anointed him victory over the people's voice.

I'm glad you can finally understand what it's like to have your voice ignored while being part of the majority! It sucks right?

Yeah they are the minority in Britain then

That's because there is no direct election system in the USA. Electors vote for the peasants.

Are you seriously comparing your system of a representative democracy in one country to a centralized EU dictatorship overruling individual sovereign countries democracies and laws?

diffused by common sense and facts, sorry to disappoint :1orglaugh

They fought under the same rules. Clinton lost under those rules. If the rules had been different, the fight would have been different.

USE will be an expensive nightmare.

Already we see the richest few subsidising the poorest many. Add the migration effect that takes the low-skilled workers from the poorest countries and puts them into the richer countries. Causing more unemployment, lower wages and increased benefits.

EU migrants without a job make up city the size of Bristol

Three million EU migrants to keep benefits after Brexit in breach of Tory manifesto

Why take so many low paid workers with 1.6 million unemployed? The real level is said to be 3.5 million. Many low-paid in the UK get subsidies from the government so they can survive. Allowing big business to get away with holding wages down.

This is slowly bankrupting the UK, along with a few more European countries.

Thommy will tell us this is all good. http://www.businessinsider.com/r-num...percent-2016-9

The EU refused David Cameron this proposal. Seems Merkel doesn't get the same treatment. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...iming-benefits