Trump Defends Islam as ?one of world?s great faiths? in Speech to Muslims

[Bladewire]

Trump refused to use the terms "radical Islam" or "Islamic terrorism" in his speech to muslims yesterday, and instead praised Islam as "one of the worlds great faiths" and "the magnificent kingdom of Saudi Arabia"

Trumped attached President Obama for years for not using the terms "radical Islam" or "Islamic terrorism", and now Trump praises Islam and refuses to use the terms.

Trump failed to represent the alt-right yesterday. In his fear and cowardice Trump has turned his back on the voters who elected him to talk tough & fight hard.

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The Muslim world is not convinced by Trump?s change of tone | Vice News

While Trump has won some praise for his mollifying statements, this new persona has not convinced everyone in the Muslim world.

In a statement, the national executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Nihad Awad, said he welcomed Trump?s recognition of Islam as ?one of the world?s great faiths? but added ?that recognition does not wipe out years of well-documented anti-Islam animus. New policies and concrete actions ? not mere rhetoric ? are what is needed to reset relations with the Muslim world.?

Former Jordanian Justice Minister Ibrahim Aljazy said: ?I would not call it a constructive tone since people in the region, particularly Jordanians, are looking for a more clear approach to the Israeli policies and an end to settlements, which may pave the way for a true two-state solution [with Palestine] and end of occupation.?

?Referencing ?Islamic? terrorist organizations only will not be appreciated by the vast majority of people in the region when other forces are carrying out acts of aggression, especially as Arabs and Muslims are the prime victims of these organizations,? Aljazy told CNN.

During Sunday?s speech, when Trump said the U.S. was ?not here to tell other people how to live,?it was seen by some as a sign of weakness. ?I think it?s in our national security interest to advocate for democracy and freedom and human rights,? Sen. Marco Rubio told CNN?s State of the Union. ?The White House and I have a different approach on the issue of human rights. I?m much more forceful and open and vocal about criticizing, whether it?s Egypt or Saudi Arabia, for its human rights record.?

While Trump attempted to appeal to many in the Muslim world during his speech, there was one country he continued to attack. ?For decades, Iran has fueled the fires of sectarian conflict and terror,? Trump said, adding that it ?funds arms, trains militias that spread destruction and chaos? ? he also pointed to Iran?s support for Syria?s Bashar Assad as he committed ?unspeakable crimes.?

[Barry-xlovecam]

[beerptrol]

lol he conned them into voting for him now he's hustling to make money for him, his family, and donors!

Iran is the boogeyman and I forgot how many of them were involved in 9/11



oh yeah! None of them!

Iran is moving towards moderation and wants to work with us. What Chump is doing pleases the old school and military members of Iran

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump refused to use the terms "radical Islam" or "Islamic terrorism" in his speech to muslims yesterday, and instead praised Islam as "one of the worlds great faiths" and "the magnificent kingdom of Saudi Arabia"

Trumped attached President Obama for years for not using the terms "radical Islam" or "Islamic terrorism", and now Trump praises Islam and refuses to use the terms.

Trump failed to represent the alt-right yesterday. In his fear and cowardice Trump has turned his back on the voters who elected him to talk tough & fight hard.

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The Muslim world is not convinced by Trump?s change of tone | Vice News

While Trump has won some praise for his mollifying statements, this new persona has not convinced everyone in the Muslim world.

In a statement, the national executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Nihad Awad, said he welcomed Trump?s recognition of Islam as ?one of the world?s great faiths? but added ?that recognition does not wipe out years of well-documented anti-Islam animus. New policies and concrete actions ? not mere rhetoric ? are what is needed to reset relations with the Muslim world.?

Former Jordanian Justice Minister Ibrahim Aljazy said: ?I would not call it a constructive tone since people in the region, particularly Jordanians, are looking for a more clear approach to the Israeli policies and an end to settlements, which may pave the way for a true two-state solution [with Palestine] and end of occupation.?

?Referencing ?Islamic? terrorist organizations only will not be appreciated by the vast majority of people in the region when other forces are carrying out acts of aggression, especially as Arabs and Muslims are the prime victims of these organizations,? Aljazy told CNN.

During Sunday?s speech, when Trump said the U.S. was ?not here to tell other people how to live,?it was seen by some as a sign of weakness. ?I think it?s in our national security interest to advocate for democracy and freedom and human rights,? Sen. Marco Rubio told CNN?s State of the Union. ?The White House and I have a different approach on the issue of human rights. I?m much more forceful and open and vocal about criticizing, whether it?s Egypt or Saudi Arabia, for its human rights record.?

While Trump attempted to appeal to many in the Muslim world during his speech, there was one country he continued to attack. ?For decades, Iran has fueled the fires of sectarian conflict and terror,? Trump said, adding that it ?funds arms, trains militias that spread destruction and chaos? ? he also pointed to Iran?s support for Syria?s Bashar Assad as he committed ?unspeakable crimes.?

this stupid bitch is playing such a dangerous game the only for money.

he is delievering weapons to those who are financing the terror all over the planet and blames iran (what is on a good way since ruhani).

iran even signed the deal with obama and went into a direction what made hope and now this old corrupt whore destroys everything because he wants a war between this nations and want to deliver the weapons for it.

if that happens - USA will never be a secure place anymore.
what happend in france will be like disneyland against that what will happen if only one state in the middle east will loose it´s sovereignty.

somebody should really stop this blind, stupid, corrupt and of complex eroded liesma before it is too late.

[Bladewire]

This video has Trumps Islam quotes back to back with his speech in the UAE from yesterday.

Wow!

Total lying hypocrite

How do Trump supporters deal with this total and complete slap in the face from Trump?

[j3rkules]

Hypocrisy at its finest.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

How do Trump supporters deal with this total and complete slap in the face from Trump?

as they do not have an own point of view they will tell you that they ALWAYS have been pro islam.

Did you ever read about the conditioning method "Pavlov´s dog" ? the same thing happens here.

[Matt 26z]

LOL!!!!

Trump is playing a game of chess that libtards could never understand.

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

LOL!!!!

Trump is playing a game of chess that libtards could never understand.

aka he is butt fucking me and other supporters raw and I have to come up with something witty to defend him and insult liberals

[pimpmaster9000]

red hats at the moment:

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

LOL!!!!

Trump is playing a game of chess that libtards could never understand.

that shows me that you are a bad chess player - because the first thing a chess playewr learns is not to underestimate his rival.

if you would understand how the "normal wold" is rotating you would also understand whey trumps world can´t work.

by the end of the year he is impeached - and that will be democratic also (but with the power of his own party) - will you still think that you are right than and others are all idiots exept you ?

[Bladewire]

Trump supporters are starting to voice their decent !

Trump's groveling speech in Saudi Arabia was a national embarrassment

Yesterday afternoon, Donald Trump became Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia. Or so will say Fareed Zakaria and the other doyens of elite opinion this morning, who stumble over themselves to offer praise every time President Trump manages to plow through a comparatively sane speech, string complete sentences together like a freshly minted state senator, and not casually alienate 1.5 billion members of a major world religion.

That's the extent of the good news about the president's hectoring, smug speech, in which he exhorted Muslims to smash the radicals in their midst, to "DRIVE THEM OUT OF YOUR COMMUNITIES" and then, puzzlingly, to also "DRIVE THEM OUT OF THIS EARTH," something that does not make any literal sense, seems kind of redundant, and presumably must be undertaken in hot pursuit across state borders. At least "radical Islamic terrorists" were noticeably absent from the text. The president was too busy groveling before the Saudis for creating jobs.

Largely devoid of apocalyptic language, non-sequiturs, boasts about the magnitude of his Electoral College triumph, and vicious attacks on the press, it was perhaps the first speech he has ever delivered that you could imagine another sentient being in the Republican Party giving, and it was painfully obvious that the president himself had nothing to do with composing it. POTUS on his own probably couldn't get within 1,000 years if he had to correctly place the wonders of ancient Egypt on a timeline of global history.

The trouble with the speech is not that it was demented, like most of what passes by President Trump's lips, but that it is a reminder of what is waiting should the Republicans still be in charge of the country for any extended period of time in the post-Trump era: the policy baseline, the tone, and the analysis of the region's predicament were all boilerplate Republican inanity, grounded in a monomaniacal obsession with terrorism as the cause of all strife on Earth and bizarrely fixated on Iran as the wellspring of instability and violence. The "Good versus Evil" and "Iran versus the moderates" components of the speech had the sticky Hungarian fingers of fake PhD Sebastian Gorka all over them and they made astonishingly little sense even if the words themselves could be diagrammed properly.

In Trump's speech, as in mainstream GOP discourse, Iran is a singular menace to the safety and stability of societies from Tel Aviv to Manama. The threat to the Iran deal is barely concealed. "For decades, Iran has fueled the fires of sectarian conflict and terror," the president thundered, conveniently overlooking the role of his Saudi hosts in developing and exporting the austere Islamic operating system that has destabilized societies from the Philippines to Syria to West Africa. Remarkably, the president singled out Iran to the total exclusion of any other state actors, all of whom, in the Gorka Park reading of modern history, are innocent of all responsibility for what has transpired in the Middle East over the past 40 years. Even the most hardline critics of Tehran wouldn't subscribe to a version of history in which the Iranians should shoulder all of the blame for the tragedies in Syria, Yemen, and Iraq.

The obsequious praise offered by President Trump to the Saudis was also embarrassing, and completely unnecessary. "I have always heard about the splendor of your country and the kindness of your citizens, but words do not do justice to the grandeur of this remarkable place," the president said to an audience of dictators, layabouts, and thieves who operate one of the most unforgiving, corrupt, and brutal dictatorships in the history of the world. While he is hardly the first president to sacrifice himself on the altar of America's strange alliance with the Saudis, he certainly outdid himself in the extent to which he was determined to fluff the fragile egos of his royal benefactors. Saudi elites who are still bitter that former President Obama didn't dance eagerly to their every demand surely went to bed satisfied last night. Trump has never met a ruthless potentate that he didn't like, and he certainly didn't break any new ground yesterday.

Forget for a moment the mind-blowing spectacle of Trump not just distancing himself from anti-Saudi remarks made on the campaign trail, but seemingly saying and doing the precise opposite. In most cases, the president discovering that his election rhetoric and Obama-era bluster are unsustainable in office is a good thing. But throwing shade at the Saudis might have been one of the few good ideas he ever had. The Ghosts of Twitter Past in this instance were a series of missives leveled at Obama and Hillary Clinton for cozying up with the enemies of LGBTQ folks and women in Riyadh, and at Saudi Arabia for not doing our bidding without question. Perhaps the tweet par excellence on this subject was issued by our illustrious leader on Sept. 10, 2014: "Tell Saudi Arabia and others that we want (demand!) free oil for the next ten years or we will not protect their private Boeing 747s. Pay up!"

Pay up the Saudis did, agreeing to funnel $110 billion into the U.S. arms industry, so that future payloads might be directed by the Saudis at Yemeni civilians and perhaps at Iran directly instead of by proxy. And on the same day President Trump gave the speech, it was announced that his daughter Ivanka's shameless "foundation" would be the recipient of $100 million in Gulf largesse, another move he criticized the Clintons for, with the difference that the Clinton Global Initiative had an actual humanitarian purpose and was operated by people with public spirit and a purpose broader than selling midnight handbags on QVC.

At this point, Trumpian hypocrisy and grifting are sui generis. The more disturbing thing about the speech was that it showed how little America's foreign policy elites have learned about the Middle East in the 40 years that they have spent wrecking and exploiting it. Far from the bedrock of a stable regional order, U.S. alliances with Gulf dictatorships and Egyptian, Jordanian, and now Turkish strongmen are part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

Conspicuously missing from President Trump's speech was any mention of the underlying causes of systemic dysfunction and extremism in the region: a series of states led by self-interested gangsters who leverage the power of their militaries and their aristocracies to enrich themselves at the expense of their citizens; deteriorating infrastructure that suffers from under-investment and graft; bloated military and security sectors that suck the productive wealth and energy out of their societies and which fail to deliver even the simplest public goods like electricity; the securitization of politics, with a huge assist from the United States, and the tendentious belief that American military power is needed to secure the region's energy bounty; the climate disasters that are fast making the region borderline uninhabitable half the year; and the failure to resolve the conflict between Israel and its neighbors, which stands in the way of commerce, equality, and peaceful coexistence for so many countries.

But we do not have a wise leader.

Nowhere in President Trump's speech did he address the rights of women, the aspirations of the region's young activists, the need for political and economic reform, or the futility of the sectarian violence that has torn apart so many societies. His speech was disgusting, nonsensical, and profoundly un-American. It was all terrorism, Iran, and empty flattery. In other words: par for the course for the GOP in 2017. Instead of addressing the pressing issues facing the Kingdom and its neighbors, and instead of offering a bold roadmap for the region based on enduring American values, Trump turned to the tyrants that he so ardently admires and flatters and emulates and said, "I thank you for the creation of this great moment in history."

[AndyA]

MR FUCKING TOUGH GUY..... Mr ban all Muslims, Mr Muslims hate us

but when he's in their presence he's dancing with swords like a cunt

Same with President of Mexico... REAL TOUGH in Arizona but when the guy is standing right there.. no talk about Mexico paying for wall

Same with Russia.. in the room with them NO mention of fucking with our election

He is ALL talk.... ALL TALK..... he's the biggest pussy in the world.. NO BALLS ALL TALK

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by thommy

by the end of the year he is impeached

The only way he gets impeached is if they can prove collusion between Trump and a Russia that hacked the DNC..... but Russia did not hack the DNC. It was Seth Rich from within that leaked the data to Wikileaks and then the Democrats had him murdered.

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump supporters are starting to voice their decent !

No, they aren't. Everyone understands that Trump as president has to say certain things. That speech was one of them. It was written by Bush's speech writers, not the Trump team.

[beerptrol]

He's a lying hypocrite. Look at all the lobbyist he's put into official roles in departments they lobbied in

[Smack dat]

Pretty sure you are wrong, again.

Trump is trying to by the saviour of the modern world but you dumb libs are too blind to see it.
The middle east has been as war with themselves and others for 1000's of years, Trump thinks he can solve this problem.

Why not try taking the piss and give him a chance once in a while.

[DraX]

Originally Posted by AndyA

MR FUCKING TOUGH GUY..... Mr ban all Muslims, Mr Muslims hate us

but when he's in their presence he's dancing with swords like a cunt

Same with President of Mexico... REAL TOUGH in Arizona but when the guy is standing right there.. no talk about Mexico paying for wall

Same with Russia.. in the room with them NO mention of fucking with our election

He is ALL talk.... ALL TALK..... he's the biggest pussy in the world.. NO BALLS ALL TALK

OMG the stupidity.

If he acted like you want in Saudi Arabia there would be a new clusterfuck of a conflict and you'd scream impeach with the rest of liberals in the world for starting one.

Hard to please a whining liberal...

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

No, they aren't. Everyone understands that Trump as president has to say certain things. That speech was one of them. It was written by Bush's speech writers, not the Trump team.

Oh how desperate...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Oh how desperate...

The "He's just saying that, he doesn't mean it" defense

Denial

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

LOL!!!!

Trump is playing a game of chess that libtards could never understand.

This is correct.

It's called diplomacy.

Clueless liberals, please quit watching Rachel Maddow

[kane]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

The same people who tore Obama up for not saying the phrase "radical Islamic terrorist" are now defending Trump when he decides not to say it.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by kane

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

The same people who tore Obama up for not saying the phrase "radical Islamic terrorist" are now defending Trump when he decides not to say it.

In every thread the excuses we've heard are:

1) It didn't happen

2) He doesn't mean it

Total denial the meltdown is epic

The redhats were bragging how Trump was going to teach muslims a lesson and clean up America and drain the swamp and on the FIRST overseas trip Trump takes back everything with his tail between his legs

[MiamiBoyz]

Why are so surprised that a politician would speak out of both sides of their mouth and tell their audience at the moment exactly what they want.

That is basic politics 101 and any moron knows it. No surprise at all really.

Have a nice day and praise Allah or Jesus or whatever asshole you worship!

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by kane

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

The same people who tore Obama up for not saying the phrase "radical Islamic terrorist" are now defending Trump when he decides not to say it.

.. and they don't even understand the fallacy ....

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Smack dat

The middle east has been as war with themselves and others for 1000's of years, Trump thinks he can solve this problem.

nice try to resolve comflicts by delievering weapons to the ones what finance terrorists and call the site what does not send us terrorists the enemy ... very very smart ...

you guys do really have a problem with your brain.
i hope it is only some virus what makes you that confused.

[baddog]

If you are unaware that he is speaking the truth, you might want to pick up a book sometime:

Christianity (31.5%)
Islam (23.2%)
Irreligion (16.3%)
Hinduism (15.0%)
Buddhism (7.1%)
Folk religions (5.9%)
Other religions (1%)

[oppoten]

* descent

You can stop worrying about the alt-right now, OP. We're done

[baddog]

Originally Posted by oppoten

* descent

You can stop worrying about the alt-right now, OP. We're done

Dissent - gaywire is one of the worst spellers on this board.

It's kind of funny that dolts like him and the crockett scientist talk about how ignorant Trump supporters are, yet they fail at basic spelling.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by baddog

If you are unaware that he is speaking the truth, you might want to pick up a book sometime:

Christianity (31.5%)
Islam (23.2%)
Irreligion (16.3%)
Hinduism (15.0%)
Buddhism (7.1%)
Folk religions (5.9%)
Other religions (1%)

You were conned by a very obvious con man, who promised you everything you wanted, but is doing the exact opposite. You threw your vote away, and can't comes to grips with it.

[DraX]

Originally Posted by baddog

Dissent - gaywire is one of the worst spellers on this board.

It's kind of funny that dolts like him and the crockett scientist talk about how ignorant Trump supporters are, yet they fail at basic spelling.

I wish I had a much greater/broader vocabulary, good thing I'm still picking up new phrases.

I hate being a 3rd grader...

[thommy]

Originally Posted by baddog

If you are unaware that he is speaking the truth, you might want to pick up a book sometime:

Christianity (31.5%)
Islam (23.2%)
Irreligion (16.3%)
Hinduism (15.0%)
Buddhism (7.1%)
Folk religions (5.9%)
Other religions (1%)

i don´t know what this numbers have to do with trump but to pull this numbers in another light:

Christianity - 1900: 36,6% - 2016: 31.5%
Islam - 1900: 13,1% - 2016: 23.2%
Hinduism - 1900: 13,3% - 2016: 15.0%
Buddhism - 1900: 8,3% - 2016: 7.1%
Jewish - 1900: ´0,8% - 2016: 0,2%
Other religions 1900: 27,7% - 2016: 12,4%
Irreligion - 1900: 0,2% - 2016: 16.3%

so the only really rising numbers are islam, hinduism and irreligion and those 3 will have to deal with each other in the near future.



let´s hope that irreligion will grow faster than all because in this group you find the smartest cosmopolitans.

[NatalieK]

His BS shines from all angles of his orange forehead