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  • Brian mike
    #Alberta51
    • Oct 2014
    • 8735
    #1

    Cpanel access or FTP access ...... Why they keep wanting Cpanel access those fuckers LOL

    Well this is what's happening and i would like to know what's your opinion about this.

    Is there any reason why i should give my CPANEL access to a stranger selling me his website/ online business.

    Told him if he cant use ftp to load file and set up a website we will have a problem.

    kind off Shady fuck LOL

    But what they are trying to do ? I know many bad things can be done but what is their Target on a server ?

    Thanks folks
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    • mineistaken
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      • Apr 2007
      • 29656
      #2
      Hm, can he set up, import mysql via only ftp? Merely uploading files is not enough.
      He could send you databases and let you import them yourself.
      Or it may be posible to set up cpanel for certain domains/subdomains only?

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        • Brian mike
          #Alberta51
          • Oct 2014
          • 8735
          #3
          Originally posted by mineistaken
          Hm, can he set up, import mysql via only ftp?
          This is what everyone tell me FTP to load files

          Well my tech, my friend tech and hosting support all tell me to never share Cpanel or SHELL access.

          But i always facing this " Please provide us your Hosting / Cpanel access " to complete the installation and test the website.

          They ALWAYS try to get your cpanel access... Did in the past but not anymore LEARNED the hard way $$$$ lol
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            • videobunch
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              • Apr 2008
              • 781
              #4
              Originally posted by Brian mike
              Well this is what's happening and i would like to know what's your opinion about this.

              Is there any reason why i should give my CPANEL access to a stranger selling me his website/ online business.

              Told him if he cant use ftp to load file and set up a website we will have a problem.

              kind off Shady fuck LOL

              But what they are trying to do ? I know many bad things can be done but what is their Target on a server ?

              Thanks folks

              Database if myphp is not installed or something that allows them database access would be only reason they would need it.
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                • DraX
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 7147
                  #5
                  selling me his website
                  I guess you purchased the website at least that's how I interpret your information.

                  And no FTP is not enough in most cases to setup a website, you need to setup mysql, fiddle with phpmyadmin etc

                  Like mineistaken are pointing out, get him to send over the websites mysql files and you could import them yourself. Otherwise I don't see why he would need cpanel acces other than actually helping you out.

                  Brian, can you create database and import mysql on your own ?
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                    • JosephFM
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 1190
                      #6
                      Well, if the website you are buying needs a Mysql database or if it's script based (not simply html and image files) than obviously if you want somewhat else to set it up for you that someone will need access to more than just FTP.

                      Does it use Mysql, well someone needs to create a database. Does the script need a cron-job set up, well, someone has to create said cronjob via c-panel, do some changes or whatever in phpmyadmin, yes, only via c-panel.

                      I don't see a problem with someone who is going to set-up a website for you asking for your FTP info.

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                        • nm_
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2011
                          • 328
                          #7
                          Cpanel in 2017?

                          Just install it yourself?

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                            • Brian mike
                              #Alberta51
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 8735
                              #8
                              Originally posted by DraX
                              Brian, can you create database and import mysql on your own ?
                              Unfortunetely not really tried that in past and fucked up everything lol.

                              Originally posted by nm_
                              Cpanel in 2017?

                              Just install it yourself?
                              As you can read above my knowledge with files is very limited .

                              Originally posted by mineistaken
                              Hm, can he set up, import mysql via only ftp? Merely uploading files is not enough.
                              He could send you databases and let you import them yourself.
                              Or it may be posible to set up cpanel for certain domains/subdomains only?

                              Thanks to all for your input really appreciated.

                              The Seller have accept to do it with ftp access.

                              And i have decide to get a new Vps for this new website, so if any problem arise and he need cpanel it will be only on that new server.

                              It's just everything going well on all my server right now and i was not comfortable to give cpanel access to a stranger from " Flippa " lol .
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                                • CPA-Rush
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                                  #9
                                  of course he can fuck you up

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                                    • Sly
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                                      • Sep 2004
                                      • 31376
                                      #10
                                      cPanel and other similar panels allow for easy importing and exporting, making site migrations easier.

                                      The guy you are purchasing the site from should not need access to your side, but you should need access to his side. Have your web hosting company do the migration. You will need his cPanel account access or access to the specific user that is controlling the domain/website you are buying.

                                      Another option would be the seller can create an export of the site and then send it to you, which you would then import into your server.
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                                        • directfiesta
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                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 30135
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Sly
                                          cPanel and other similar panels allow for easy importing and exporting, making site migrations easier.

                                          The guy you are purchasing the site from should not need access to your side, but you should need access to his side. Have your web hosting company do the migration. You will need his cPanel account access or access to the specific user that is controlling the domain/website you are buying.

                                          Another option would be the seller can create an export of the site and then send it to you, which you would then import into your server.
                                          Exactly ...

                                          But in fact , the seller could do a move file ( all the site , pages, db, settings ) , send it to the buyer who can then install it .
                                          I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                          But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                            • Brian mike
                                              #Alberta51
                                              • Oct 2014
                                              • 8735
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Sly
                                              cPanel and other similar panels allow for easy importing and exporting, making site migrations easier.

                                              The guy you are purchasing the site from should not need access to your side, but you should need access to his side. Have your web hosting company do the migration. You will need his cPanel account access or access to the specific user that is controlling the domain/website you are buying.

                                              Another option would be the seller can create an export of the site and then send it to you, which you would then import into your server.
                                              Originally posted by directfiesta
                                              Exactly ...

                                              But in fact , the seller could do a move file ( all the site , pages, db, settings ) , send it to the buyer who can then install it .
                                              Thanks
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                                                • NatalieK
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                                                  • Apr 2010
                                                  • 20117
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by CPA-Rush
                                                  of course he can fuck you up
                                                  exactly...


                                                  depends on who he is.


                                                  We´ve given our cpanel to people when we were dealing with designers & buying websites, setting things up, but these were good people, honest people.

                                                  A person you´re purchasing a website from shouldn´t need or ask for such a part of your server, it´s the whole workings!

                                                  You need to ask him to send you the files & explain you can get someone to set this up for you unless you trust the person, sounds like you don´t, so don´t give your cpanel out
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                                                    • myleene
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Oct 2013
                                                      • 906
                                                      #14
                                                      There are no reasons for them to request this.

                                                      If they couldn't use FTP and use a freshly created mysql DB I would tell them to fuck off. They're either weak sauce and can't use tech well or they're trying to do something shady.

                                                      Newly uploaded sites or content on a server should always be verified, tested and isolated before public use.

                                                      Same rules apply to domain names. Nobody should request a transfer or rights to admin them.

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                                                        • k0nr4d
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                          • 9231
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by myleene
                                                          There are no reasons for them to request this.

                                                          If they couldn't use FTP and use a freshly created mysql DB I would tell them to fuck off. They're either weak sauce and can't use tech well or they're trying to do something shady.

                                                          Newly uploaded sites or content on a server should always be verified, tested and isolated before public use.

                                                          Same rules apply to domain names. Nobody should request a transfer or rights to admin them.
                                                          There are plenty of reasons to need cpanel access when installing a script or site...We need access to cpanel or whm probably 9 out of 10 times that cpanel is installed on a server in order to install some missing dependencies, create a database, reconfigure something in php, install some missing php module, etc. Not everything that is misconfigured on a server is initially visible using just http to access a script. Sometimes even managed hosts hire techs that can't do anything more then basic cpanel or plesk operation.

                                                          That being said, it's more of a customer service thing so someone gets up and running faster and doesn't have to do a week of back and forth with configuration/dependencies. If someone refuses to give that access, no problem - it can be done the long way too.
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                                                            • alastik
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Mar 2017
                                                              • 50
                                                              #16
                                                              Sly nailed it. Let your host deal with it. Even with database driven sites cPanel to cPanel transfers are plug and chug 9 times out of 10.

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                                                                • Brad Mitchell
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                  • 9813
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by k0nr4d
                                                                  There are plenty of reasons to need cpanel access when installing a script or site...We need access to cpanel or whm probably 9 out of 10 times that cpanel is installed on a server in order to install some missing dependencies, create a database, reconfigure something in php, install some missing php module, etc. Not everything that is misconfigured on a server is initially visible using just http to access a script. Sometimes even managed hosts hire techs that can't do anything more then basic cpanel or plesk operation.

                                                                  That being said, it's more of a customer service thing so someone gets up and running faster and doesn't have to do a week of back and forth with configuration/dependencies. If someone refuses to give that access, no problem - it can be done the long way too.
                                                                  What K0nrad and Sly said.

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                                                                    • Emil
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                                                                      #18
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