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Mr Pheer · 04-15-2003, 10:23 PM

Someone help me please....

Ok, my cable modem will support 8 ip addresses

I have 24 computer, I want to use three per ip address

how do I do this???

asuna · 04-15-2003, 10:27 PM

get a router, and jsut configure all your computers to use THAT ip..

Mr Pheer · 04-15-2003, 10:29 PM

I dont want to use 8 routers

I have a router now and everything is running one 1 ip, pretty much fucking me... i need to break them down to 3 computers per ip

asuna · 04-15-2003, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by MrPheer
I dont want to use 8 routers

I have a router now and everything is running one 1 ip, pretty much fucking me... i need to break them down to 3 computers per ip

yes, get ONE router, and if u wanna go fancy, get them all wireless, and specify an IP for all of them

04-15-2003, 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by MrPheer
I dont want to use 8 routers

I have a router now and everything is running one 1 ip, pretty much fucking me... i need to break them down to 3 computers per ip

get a hub with 8 hookups. assign the IPs to the computers and you are good to go.

asuna · 04-15-2003, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by Equinox

get a hub with 8 hookups. assign the IPs to the computers and you are good to go.

he's got 24 computers... so unless he puts another card in those computer, and get so many headaches, he should get wireless, and specify IP's for each, less headaches

asuna · 04-15-2003, 10:35 PM

oh, and hit me up on icq if you want me to talk you tru this, altho I only have about an hour left to live

Mr Pheer · 04-15-2003, 10:36 PM

but how can you have 3 computers all using the same IP, going to one router connected to one cable modem? this is what has me confused

setting them all one 1 ip was easy, i need three per IP for a total of 8 IP's (24 computers) all connected to the same cable modem

What i have now, is a wireless LinkSys "G" router, connected to 2 16 port switches... for some reason, hubs made the speed slow to a crawl, but switches run nicely

asuna · 04-15-2003, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by MrPheer
but how can you have 3 computers all using the same IP, going to one router connected to one cable modem? this is what has me confused

setting them all one 1 ip was easy, i need three per IP for a total of 8 IP's (24 computers) all connected to the same cable modem

What i have now, is a wireless LinkSys "G" router, connected to 2 16 port switches... for some reason, hubs made the speed slow to a crawl, but switches run nicely

hit me up on icq

Snowone · 04-15-2003, 10:57 PM

Just what are you trying to accomplish?

Are the 24 machines servers or just workstations?

Switches are always better than hubs...

04-15-2003, 11:01 PM

yeah blah, I am not capable of processing any info. didn't even notice he had 24 pcs...

SpaceAce · 04-15-2003, 11:06 PM

If you want them all online at the same time, the easiest setup is probably 8 "gateway" computers each with it's own private 3-computer network (the gateway + 2 others). You can use NAT to have each three-computer cluster share an IP address as assigned by your ISP.

Quick sketch: Computer 1 connects to the internet directly, computers 2 and 3 have their default gateway set to computer 1; repeat for eight clusters.

That's a massively simplified version, though, and will vary by operating system.

SpaceAce

asuna · 04-15-2003, 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce
If you want them all online at the same time, the easiest setup is probably 8 "gateway" computers each with it's own private 3-computer network (the gateway + 2 others). You can use NAT to have each three-computer cluster share an IP address as assigned by your ISP.

Quick sketch: Computer 1 connects to the internet directly, computers 2 and 3 have their default gateway set to computer 1; repeat for eight clusters.

That's a massively simplified version, though, and will vary by operating system.

SpaceAce

it's still quite abit of work, and not for non computer people

chupacabra · 04-15-2003, 11:09 PM

MrPheer, it doesn't matter that your connection allows for 8 IP addresses, you don't need any more than one to do what your trying... your router will take the single needed IP served from your internet provider via DHCP, and all of the machines on your network will use the IP address of the router itself (often 192.168.1.0 or similar non-routable IP's) as the "default gateway". each of your computers connected to your switches will have there own IP address on the same subnet as the router, and will all have internet access through the gateway (router).

there is no need to try to split the 8 available IP addresses between your machines, there would be no benefit from doing this whatsoever, performance or security-wise); and while possible, would require the purchase of multiple routers (or creating discreet VPN's needlessly)..

Mr Pheer · 04-16-2003, 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by chupacabra
there is no need to try to split the 8 available IP addresses between your machines, there would be no benefit from doing this whatsoever, performance or security-wise); and while possible, would require the purchase of multiple routers (or creating discreet VPN's needlessly)..

If there was no need, I wouldnt be trying it. Trust me, I need it. The type of marketing that I do, gets banned when 24 machines hit a network all one one ip, but not on 24.. or 8

Mr Pheer · 04-16-2003, 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce
If you want them all online at the same time, the easiest setup is probably 8 "gateway" computers each with it's own private 3-computer network (the gateway + 2 others). You can use NAT to have each three-computer cluster share an IP address as assigned by your ISP.

Quick sketch: Computer 1 connects to the internet directly, computers 2 and 3 have their default gateway set to computer 1; repeat for eight clusters.

That's a massively simplified version, though, and will vary by operating system.

SpaceAce

This may work...

Cox assigns you an ip address based on your MAC address... this way may work

chupacabra · 04-16-2003, 12:23 AM

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The type of marketing that I do, gets banned when 24 machines hit a network all one one ip, but not on 24.. or 8

ahh... i think i understand, ok... well, the easiest (and cheapest) way to use all 8 of the actual IP addresses then, you would want to attach an 8-port hub to your cable modem, connect 7 machines into the hub and one ethernet router to the last port... the 7 machines and the router will all claim an actual IP address from your cable provider, and you could attach the remaining machines to a switch on the other side of the router, all using the router as a gateway... does this sound more like what you are trying for, perhaps? hope this helps..

FiReC · 04-16-2003, 12:30 AM

take the MAC from one of the registered ethernet cards (usually with cable service you have register your ethernet card MAC addy with the provider to optain an IP via DHCP) and "clone" it onto the router. enable dhcp on your router (make sure you have enough addys for the 24 computers ) and plug an ethernet cable into a LAN port on your router into the uplink port on your switch/hub. plug all the computers into your switch (daisy chain with uplink ports if necessary) and bam .. its fucking network voodoo black magic shit

FiReC · 04-16-2003, 12:36 AM

nevermind i didn't read the thread....i guess you need multiple public IP's ....

how do they know you have 24 computers behind one IP?

from the ISP end it looks like one computer when behind a router if i'm not mistaken

Mr Pheer · 04-16-2003, 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by chupacabra

ahh... i think i understand, ok... well, the easiest (and cheapest) way to use all 8 of the actual IP addresses then, you would want to attach an 8-port hub to your cable modem, connect 7 machines into the hub and one ethernet router to the last port... the 7 machines and the router will all claim an actual IP address from your cable provider, and you could attach the remaining machines to a switch on the other side of the router, all using the router as a gateway... does this sound more like what you are trying for, perhaps? hope this helps..

Yeah this sounds close... But it also sounds like 7 computers with thier own IP and 17 on 1 ip... not quite what I need.

I'm going to call Cox in the morning and if they cant come up with a solution, I'll order a DS1 and the problem will go away.. but not cheaply.

Mr Pheer · 04-16-2003, 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by FiReC
nevermind i didn't read the thread....i guess you need multiple public IP's ....

how do they know you have 24 computers behind one IP?

from the ISP end it looks like one computer when behind a router if i'm not mistaken

exactly, and thats the problem

I dont need to look like one computer cause I get banned, unless I'm only running one computer. I need to look like 24 computers

chupacabra · 04-16-2003, 12:52 AM

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I need to look like 24 computers

ah... i guess this isn't possible w/ what you currently have, i am unaware of any cable provider being able to supply you w/ 24 seperate IP addresses on a normal consumer account, you won't be able to turn those 8 IP's into 24 world-viewable IP's, maybe look into getting a DSL connection as well? for the kind of work it sounds like you are wanting to do, it doesn't sound like you would really want real static IP's from your provider in the first place, if there is a high chance of them becoming banned for some reason..

funkmaster · 04-16-2003, 12:56 AM

1 DSL MODEM -> 24 PCs -> SPAMER ??

chupacabra · 04-16-2003, 12:58 AM

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1 DSL MODEM -> 24 PCs -> SPAMER ??

heh... i didn't say a thing. i assumed this was some experiment in large household cyber-sex parties..

quiet · 04-16-2003, 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by funkmaster
1 DSL MODEM -> 24 PCs -> SPAMER ??

ahaha - exactly what i was thinking.

Mr Pheer · 04-16-2003, 01:09 AM

I never thought it was a secret.

I call it, aggressive marketing.

I never do email though.

Mr Pheer · 04-16-2003, 01:10 AM

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Originally posted by funkmaster
1 DSL MODEM -> 24 PCs -> SPAMER ??

When I had dsl, i had 87 ip's and life was good.

This cable modem shit fucked me up.

notion · 04-16-2003, 01:23 AM

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Originally posted by MrPheer
I never thought it was a secret.

I call it, aggressive marketing.

I never do email though.

Just curious, what kind of spamming? AIM spamming?

Mr Pheer · 04-16-2003, 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by notion

Just curious, what kind of spamming? AIM spamming?

No thats easy.

Mr Pheer · 04-16-2003, 01:25 AM

I'm going to bed so tomorrow will get here sooner and i can order that DS1

notion · 04-16-2003, 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by MrPheer

No thats easy.

Heh, yeah.

funkmaster · 04-16-2003, 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by MrPheer

When I had dsl, i had 87 ip's and life was good.

This cable modem shit fucked me up.

... fuck, that sucks ... you should go back to DSL again, I am missing your daily messages in my inbox ...

funkmaster · 04-16-2003, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by MrPheer
I never thought it was a secret.

I call it, aggressive marketing.

I never do email though.

... ahhh, I know what you are doing. mate, if it is what I think ... you are actually doing something good ... hahaha

lazycash · 04-16-2003, 06:48 AM

good???

can you say chat bots

Wiz · 04-16-2003, 06:48 AM

How much Yahoo Chat room bot you install per computer? ;)

TheFLY · 04-16-2003, 07:10 AM

i sale 6 digit ICQ for each 24 computer

TheFLY · 04-16-2003, 07:23 AM

What would be the bomb is if u could use X IP's on one machine -- and have some fancy software to emulate as many PC's as you would need... I'm sure it's possible...

Mr Pheer · 04-16-2003, 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
What would be the bomb is if u could use X IP's on one machine -- and have some fancy software to emulate as many PC's as you would need... I'm sure it's possible...

Thats called vmware
been there, done that

Cox says 1 month to install a DS1 or T1...
or 3 modems to get 24 ip's

too bad i cant get dsl at my new house... you'd think in vegas you could get whatever you want, whenever you want

chupacabra · 04-16-2003, 10:16 AM

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you'd think in vegas you could get whatever you want, whenever you want

generally you can, unless she's been 86'd from that particular establishment... always pisses me off when my date is escorted out by casino security meatheads..

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Mr Pheer So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,582	I'm in network hell Someone help me please.... Ok, my cable modem will support 8 ip addresses I have 24 computer, I want to use three per ip address how do I do this???

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Mr Pheer So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,582	I dont want to use 8 routers I have a router now and everything is running one 1 ip, pretty much fucking me... i need to break them down to 3 computers per ip

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Mr Pheer So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,582	but how can you have 3 computers all using the same IP, going to one router connected to one cable modem? this is what has me confused setting them all one 1 ip was easy, i need three per IP for a total of 8 IP's (24 computers) all connected to the same cable modem What i have now, is a wireless LinkSys "G" router, connected to 2 16 port switches... for some reason, hubs made the speed slow to a crawl, but switches run nicely

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Snowone Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Around the Bend Posts: 183	Just what are you trying to accomplish? Are the 24 machines servers or just workstations? Switches are always better than hubs...

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SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	If you want them all online at the same time, the easiest setup is probably 8 "gateway" computers each with it's own private 3-computer network (the gateway + 2 others). You can use NAT to have each three-computer cluster share an IP address as assigned by your ISP. Quick sketch: Computer 1 connects to the internet directly, computers 2 and 3 have their default gateway set to computer 1; repeat for eight clusters. That's a massively simplified version, though, and will vary by operating system. SpaceAce

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chupacabra Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,626	MrPheer, it doesn't matter that your connection allows for 8 IP addresses, you don't need any more than one to do what your trying... your router will take the single needed IP served from your internet provider via DHCP, and all of the machines on your network will use the IP address of the router itself (often 192.168.1.0 or similar non-routable IP's) as the "default gateway". each of your computers connected to your switches will have there own IP address on the same subnet as the router, and will all have internet access through the gateway (router). there is no need to try to split the 8 available IP addresses between your machines, there would be no benefit from doing this whatsoever, performance or security-wise); and while possible, would require the purchase of multiple routers (or creating discreet VPN's needlessly)..

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Mr Pheer So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,582	I never thought it was a secret. I call it, aggressive marketing. I never do email though.

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