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03-31-2017, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by TeenCat

yeah nothing better than humans separating each other with fences. and britain telling eu that eu is not worth britain, you britain can go fuck yourself you ego masturbators! but i dont care anyway, they can keep their shitty weather, agressive people and black and muslim multikulti london for themself ... idiots ...

Where is the Czech Republic in this list?

By leaving the UK can also keep its money and send home Czechs relying on benefits.

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03-31-2017, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by crucifissio

no my comment is based on the most simple laws of economy...its not really up for discussion because it is too simple...

Agree there is no debate. Once those jobs and the money from producing in the West leaves, the West suffers. [/QUOTE]

this is what people in the west hate most: paying people in the west or buying stuff from the west

this is not going to change...

It will have to or most Westerners are going to be living in poverty of just getting by. It's simple laws of economy, more money flows out or a country and the lower and middle classes are hit the hardest. Now tell us the Lower 50% aren't doing worse. To reveal your stupidity.

How much of the money you earn comes from Serbians and how much from Americans. That money is better off in America.

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03-31-2017, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

If the EU is so good, why are more of its citizens poorer now than they were 20 years ago? Look at the problems Spain is in because of the EU.

Rising debt, unemployment, homelessness, dropping GDP, austerity and a huge migration problem because of Merkel and the EU failing to tackle the problem. The EU is not working for the people of Europe.

what a load of BS...

you´ve moved out of the UK because you prefer the European living, the UK´s going to close up & become a cesspit of un educated unemployed while the countryside, Britain´s asset´s going to become broken.

The EU gave much more back than what´s on paper, it´s to organisations that the government may not give to now. Similar to Trump cutting back on many needed payments, now the UK shall probably tighten its porn acceptable net & much more.

This Brexit´s going to hurt in a few years while over here in Spain, unemployment´s down & everyone I hear say they want to stay here & would have rather remain, as the EU does it´s job

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03-31-2017, 06:53 AM

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as the EU does it´s job

So much so that everyone wants to leave. The UK is only the beginning...

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03-31-2017, 07:53 AM

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True... and it needs a single coordinated army....

They can't afford a decent army.

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03-31-2017, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

Agree there is no debate. Once those jobs and the money from producing in the West leaves, the West suffers.

It will have to or most Westerners are going to be living in poverty of just getting by. It's simple laws of economy, more money flows out or a country and the lower and middle classes are hit the hardest. Now tell us the Lower 50% aren't doing worse. To reveal your stupidity.

this is never going to change...the harder you get hit by the crisis the more cheap goods you will want to buy and employ cheaper...you can not have the cake AND eat it at the same time

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How much of the money you earn comes from Serbians and how much from Americans. That money is better off in America.

well theres 2 solutions:

1) the west goes under...it can not compete...

2) the west closes its boarders to any international trade at all...closed ecosystem...you will still go under...the west can not afford to sell just to the west this is 1/5th of humanity total...the other 4/5ths of the market will not be accessible to you...you are delusional if you think imposing taxes on imports will not affect your exports or that other countries will not impose taxes and measures right back...la chateliers principle applies to everything not just chemistry...

you can not have the cake AND eat it...

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03-31-2017, 08:53 AM

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what a load of BS...

you´ve moved out of the UK because you prefer the European living, the UK´s going to close up & become a cesspit of un educated unemployed while the countryside, Britain´s asset´s going to become broken.

Lets hope English is still taught.

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03-31-2017, 09:04 AM

all British people I know here are really cool and friendly and they can't understand why this Brexit thing is being done to them.

but apparently staying on an island for too long, does something to your head

besides Paul - he wins the hypocrit of the century award

but fortunately i have to listen to this whining for only 2 more years - because after that everything will be peachy and only roses for everybody in the UK and milk and honey will flow and nobody will be without a job.

and in case this won't happen just stfu anyways - you wanted it this way

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03-31-2017, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by StefanG

all British people I know here are really cool and friendly and they can't understand why this Brexit thing is being done to them.

but apparently staying on an island for too long, does something to your head

besides Paul - he wins the hypocrit of the century award

but fortunately i have to listen to this whining for only 2 more years - because after that everything will be peachy and only roses for everybody in the UK and milk and honey will flow and nobody will be without a job.

and in case this won't happen just stfu anyways - you wanted it this way
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03-31-2017, 10:43 AM

actually, this article is really well written and balanced, I recommend reading it
Russian Active Measures and Influence Campaigns - Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
Also, one quote from it:
Since Russia cannot compete toe-to-toe with the West, its leaders have embraced a wide range of tools—information warfare in all its forms, including subversion, deception, dis- and mis-information, intimidation, espionage, economic tools, including sanctions, bribery, selective favorable trading regimes, influence campaigns, etc. This toolkit has deep historical roots in the Soviet era and performs the function of the equalizer that in the eyes of the Kremlin is intended to make up for Russia’s weakness vis a vis the West.

another quote:

Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election is likely to be seen by the Kremlin as a major success regardless of whether its initial goal was to help advance the Trump candidacy. The payoff includes, but is not limited to a major political disruption in the United States, which has been distracted from many strategic pursuits; the standing of the United States and its leadership in the world have been damaged; it has become a common theme in the narrative of many leading commentators that from the pillar of stability of the international liberal order the United States has been transformed into its biggest source of instability; U.S. commitments to key allies in Europe and Asia have been questioned on both sides of the Atlantic and the Pacific. And last, but not least, the Kremlin has demonstrated what it can do to the world’s sole remaining global superpower.

and another quote, makes me sad about all these brainwashed Russians, typical fucking crooked government raping its nation to get more power:
Whereas there are some voices inside Russia who, like the leading anti-corruption activist Alexei Navalny, have challenged the many domestic failings and authoritarian leanings of the Putin government, there are hardly any who have challenged its foreign policy record. Worse yet, the Kremlin propaganda has been apparently so effective, and the legal constraints imposed by it so severe, that few Russian opposition voices dare to challenge the government’s foreign policy course for fear of being branded as foreign agents, enemies of the people, and fifth columnists.

better ask your Politruk to prepare some alibi comrade, you will soon need it on this forum :-) bolded text is especially for you, but only if you are just brainwashed

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03-31-2017, 11:00 AM

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After that the KGB is blamed of punitive psychiatry

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03-31-2017, 11:05 AM

"blamed" comrade ? it was a FACT.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi...e_Soviet_Union

information warfare in all its forms, including subversion, deception, dis- and mis-information, intimidation, espionage, economic tools, including sanctions, bribery, selective favorable trading regimes, influence campaigns, etc.

you will be soon banned from this forum........I just dont have time to do it today. bye

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03-31-2017, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by klinton

"blamed" comrade ? it was a FACT.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi...e_Soviet_Union
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OOk just relax All good. Putin sleep now and not will stole you democracy.

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03-31-2017, 12:36 PM

he wont...he already stole yours.
now go back to sucking KGB dick :-)

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OOk just relax All good. Putin sleep now and not will stole you democracy.
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03-31-2017, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by klinton

he wont...he already stole yours.
now go back to sucking KGB dick :-)

No, I will vote for Putin twice

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03-31-2017, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by Scott McD

So much so that everyone wants to leave. The UK is only the beginning...

like Scotland & Ireland?

Originally posted by rogueteens

Lets hope English is still taught.

you mean "Let´s"?

yes, let´s hope

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03-31-2017, 09:35 PM

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04-01-2017, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by StefanG

all British people I know here are really cool and friendly and they can't understand why this Brexit thing is being done to them.

but apparently staying on an island for too long, does something to your head

besides Paul - he wins the hypocrit of the century award

but fortunately i have to listen to this whining for only 2 more years - because after that everything will be peachy and only roses for everybody in the UK and milk and honey will flow and nobody will be without a job.

and in case this won't happen just stfu anyways - you wanted it this way

I have repeatedly said that migrants like you and me were allowed to migrate before the EU made it possible for everyone to migrate. The problem with the EU policy is it allows low-skilled, low paid and unemployed to move and leech off countries or put native workers out of a job or on a lower pay. Benefitting only the rich. So we can assume by your stance you're a staunch capitalist/conservative.

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04-01-2017, 12:10 AM

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like Scotland & Ireland?

Countries that hope to by beneficiaries of the EU. Getting back more than they put in.

The crunch will come when Westminster has all the spare cash to redistribute it sends some to those countries. At the moment every £4 spent by the EU in the UK costs the UK £8.

You must have missed my post about what EU funding costs the UK.

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04-01-2017, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by StefanG

all British people I know here are really cool and friendly and they can't understand why this Brexit thing is being done to them.

but apparently staying on an island for too long, does something to your head

besides Paul - he wins the hypocrit of the century award

but fortunately i have to listen to this whining for only 2 more years - because after that everything will be peachy and only roses for everybody in the UK and milk and honey will flow and nobody will be without a job.

and in case this won't happen just stfu anyways - you wanted it this way

I may not be cool or friendly but I understand perfectly I also understand that it'll take longer than 2 years... and that it's not necessarily about nobody being without a job - not sure why people say things like that - it's like me accusing people who wanted to remain of believing 'everything will be peachy and only roses for everybody in the UK and milk and honey will flow and nobody will be without a job' - I highly doubt any sane person of either opinion has ever said that.

Just like not all leftists want to welcome ISIS, and not all muslims are terrorists - not all brexiteers are racist homophobes despite the dirty tactics and smear campaigns of the remain camp (and ofc, there was plenty of smear shit from the leave camp too). Everyone has their reasons for wanting in or out, but honestly the whole thing is comical, as is any political difference of opinion - I don't get half as worked up about my football team as people do with their political beliefs - and lets not forget, beliefs/viewpoints is ALL they are for anyone.

There will ALWAYS be the bad shit that goes on in the world like wars, racism, homophobia, and so on - being in or out of the EU won't change that, regardless of the desperate hope that some people have that it will, and there'll always be good things like foreign aid, people being decent to each other, and so on, regarless if we are in the EU or out of it (or if the EU even exists) - the (probably) deciding factor for me was: do I think more gov't is best overall for people, or less. My belief is that the answer is a resounding 'no'. <--- this is over-simplified for the sake of a quick post, after all this is gfy where I give a fuck about what 0.00004% of members here think, or would explain in an in-depth conversation with
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04-01-2017, 10:23 AM

everything is fake
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04-02-2017, 06:40 AM

When the mandarins in Brussels decided to go from the Common Market to the EU they fucked Europe. Since then they haven't stopped building power, passing laws and increasing their power over Europeans. Because States mainstream parties were 100% behind the EU dream.

It made no difference whether people voted Left, Middle or Right, they all supported the EU making more people poorer than they made richer.

The biggest mistake of the EU was allowing economically poor and weak States to join. Then allow those States to adopt the Euro and borrow way beyond their means. Dumping most of Southern Europe into high debt.

Their next mistake was to allow people to move from one State to another and take jobs away from residents. Lowering standards of living for most Northern Europeans. And lowering tax revenues and raise Welfare Payments.

Now we see a growing Far Right Movement. The Liberals love to whoop and cheer when people like Geert Wilders, UKIP, Norbert Hofer, Le Pen, etc don't win power. 20 years ago the Far Right were a joke, today they're an alternative and even called populists. Because the EU has lost the will of many people. In fact, there are now parties inside the EU Parliament dedicated to destroying it.

The EU either stops treating people like sheep or the sheep will vote them out. It's not a question of if, but when.

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04-02-2017, 09:43 AM

Like the right wing can make Paul markhams not Paul Markham...LOL what a comedy...

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04-02-2017, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by crucifissio

Like the right wing can make Paul markhams not Paul Markham...LOL what a comedy...

I;m not Right Wing. It's just that the Right Wing are the only ones offering Europe an alternative to the EU.

Of course broke backwood countries like Serbia look on the EU as a money tree. Try thinking it from the other man's POV. How would Serbians like 500,000 Muslims to take residence in the country?

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04-03-2017, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

I have repeatedly said that migrants like you and me were allowed to migrate before the EU made it possible for everyone to migrate. The problem with the EU policy is it allows low-skilled, low paid and unemployed to move and leech off countries or put native workers out of a job or on a lower pay. Benefitting only the rich. So we can assume by your stance you're a staunch capitalist/conservative.

Yes Paul you have repeatedly tried to explain away your hypocrisy.

However the reality is that you are an economic migrant, and you are also a morally bankrupt migrant. You did not move to escape hunger or persecution. You migrated to a country that was fresh out of communism and the population were ripe to be exploited. You moved to a country where you could take advantage of the situation.

You moved to a country where young girls were cheap, plentiful, and very willing because of the socio-economic plight of the country, and now you have the audacity to pontificate about migrants.

Fucking hypocrite.

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04-03-2017, 03:12 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

I;m not Right Wing. It's just that the Right Wing are the only ones offering Europe an alternative to the EU.

there is no alternative to greedy white men not wanting to employ other white men or buy western goods...left,right,center, up down are no alternatives...the situation is permanent

Originally posted by Paul Markham

Of course broke backwood countries like Serbia look on the EU as a money tree. Try thinking it from the other man's POV. How would Serbians like 500,000 Muslims to take residence in the country?

oh what a good point you kept the region under 20 years of sanctions and bombed the shit out of it and now you figure we look at the EU like a money tree dude 4% of the serbian population are already refugees...just belgrade alone took in 300.000...we had 200.000 in just one day from democratic democratic US supported "freedom fighters"...funny how 200.000 people in one day is not ethnic cleansing at all when the west does it

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04-03-2017, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by NewNick

Yes Paul you have repeatedly tried to explain away your hypocrisy.

However the reality is that you are an economic migrant, and you are also a morally bankrupt migrant. You did not move to escape hunger or persecution. You migrated to a country that was fresh out of communism and the population were ripe to be exploited. You moved to a country where you could take advantage of the situation.

You moved to a country where young girls were cheap, plentiful, and very willing because of the socio-economic plight of the country, and now you have the audacity to pontificate about migrants.

Fucking hypocrite.

Then I'm an economic migrant like doctors, surgeons, nurses who move to a country for a higher wage.

Yes, I moved here because I could make more money and not cost the country a dime, in fact, contribute in terms of paying all those girls, my employees, the studio rent, buying equipment and of course the taxes I paid on the business and my income.

If I had not moved here and brought my turnover, the Czech Republic would be poorer.

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04-03-2017, 05:39 AM

Originally posted by crucifissio

oh what a good point you kept the region under 20 years of sanctions and bombed the shit out of it and now you figure we look at the EU like a money tree dude 4% of the serbian population are already refugees...just belgrade alone took in 300.000...we had 200.000 in just one day from democratic democratic US supported "freedom fighters"...funny how 200.000 people in one day is not ethnic cleansing at all when the west does it

Serbia should have backed down when told emphatically to stop committing genocide in Bosnia. The only thing to stop mass murder was military action, ASerbs even ignored a UN Peacekeeping force.

Check the facts.

Shocking scale of migrants shunning 'poor' Serbia despite warm welcome | World | News | Express.co.uk

Survival Gets Tougher for Migrants Stuck in Serbia :: Balkan Insight

An estimated 7 550 refugees and migrants are currently stranded in Serbia. Where did you get your facts from?

Migrants Trapped in Belgrade.

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04-03-2017, 06:05 AM

I don't recall Winston Churchill mentioning 'fingers crossed' as the preferred form of domestic or foreign policy.

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04-03-2017, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by GspotProductions

what a load of BS...

you´ve moved out of the UK because you prefer the European living, the UK´s going to close up & become a cesspit of un educated unemployed while the countryside, Britain´s asset´s going to become broken.

The EU gave much more back than what´s on paper, it´s to organisations that the government may not give to now. Similar to Trump cutting back on many needed payments, now the UK shall probably tighten its porn acceptable net & much more.

This Brexit´s going to hurt in a few years while over here in Spain, unemployment´s down & everyone I hear say they want to stay here & would have rather remain, as the EU does it´s job

You are only pro EU due to:

Originally posted by nico-t

...Which is what they were told by false scare tactic propaganda of the Remain establishment. They probably need to fill in a new form and that's that.

Aside from that, let's say if i would be an expat and lived somewhere else in Europe, and Holland would have a vote for a Nexit. I would have supported it no matter what, because there are way, way bigger things at work than me sitting in another country.

If you base such a huge decision which benefits freedom, democracy and sovereignty, only on the fact that 'ooh maybe i need to fill extra forms, nooo i want to continue to live here without any minor changes', you are small minded, egotistical and ignorant.
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04-03-2017, 05:03 PM

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Serbia should have backed down when told emphatically to stop committing genocide in Bosnia. The only thing to stop mass murder was military action, ASerbs even ignored a UN Peacekeeping force.

Check the facts.

Shocking scale of migrants shunning 'poor' Serbia despite warm welcome | World | News | Express.co.uk

Survival Gets Tougher for Migrants Stuck in Serbia :: Balkan Insight

An estimated 7 550 refugees and migrants are currently stranded in Serbia. Where did you get your facts from?

Migrants Trapped in Belgrade.

OK we can see how Serbs treat migrants. https://www.google.cz/webhp?hl=en&gw...ts+in+serbia&*

Paul nothing you posted is true LOL how does a minority cleanse a majority that has the entire world backing it? Paul...You are off your meds again...Try to remember Serbia never took part in the war...Even the Hague war crimes tribunal found slobo innocent after his death LOL...Serbia took in 200.000 in one day alone...Cleanse much Paul? Tell me how many Indians starved to feed you?

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04-04-2017, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by crucifissio

Paul nothing you posted is true LOL how does a minority cleanse a majority that has the entire world backing it? Paul...You are off your meds again...Try to remember Serbia never took part in the war...Even the Hague war crimes tribunal found slobo innocent after his death LOL...Serbia took in 200.000 in one day alone...Cleanse much Paul? Tell me how many Indians starved to feed you?

Show us some links. Or STFU.

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04-04-2017, 07:19 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

Show us some links. Or STFU.

google : "did serbia take part in the bosnian war" (hint: ------>bosnian war<-----)

google : "ethnic composition of croatia and bosnia before war"

google : "milosevic exonerated by hague war crimes tribunal"

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04-04-2017, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by KlenTelaris

Fun thing is, how main argument for Scotland to stay with UK is to stay in EU, Scotland will leave now UK due that and then join EU.

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