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Massivecock 04-16-2003 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
You guys are beyond lunacy. you continually denounce mainstream media and then quote this stupid, shitty site which exists only to suck money from insecure and paranoid morons?

amazing. everyone else is "sheep" and your are "informed" - presumably due to the clarity of vision that your daily cocktail of anti-depressents and anti-psychotic medication gives you.

how can it be that everyone who presents an opposing view has an "agenda" ... much less a secret agenda... yet this fucking idiot is objective and just trying to do a good deed for all of humanity and you support that? ... is that balanced? objective? i

http://www.infowars.com/videos.html#tyranny

nice videos.... secret plans, secret societies, secret conspiracy theories. :( .... all supported by loose and sloppy evidence taken out of context or by quoting conflicting media sources which supposedly proves something. all media is a conspiracy and the bulk of the shit you spew is supported ONLY by various reports in that same media.

which is it? lies? or truth? - you guys can't seem to make up your minds and only seem to really be sure when it supports your own twisted view of reality.

amazing that there is all this "concrete proof" and the world seems to be missing it. Clinton could not get a blowjob without it becoming a world wide scandal - but he can secretly take over the world? give me a fucking break.

here is some informative videos from that site. amazing how the world can miss it. the conspiracy is much wider than we all know:

---------
Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove
Nixon, Eisenhower, and Reagan were members. The Bush Family Maintains a Strong Involvement. Now, for the First Time in History, Alex Jones Brings You Video from His Infiltration of Bohemian Grove. View the Elite Compound and Witness World Leaders Conducting a Bizarre, Occult Ritual, Worshipping a Giant Stone Owl Idol.
---------
American Gulag: Concentration Camps in America -- by Texe Marrs

Concentration camps in America? Feds set to toss millions of innocent Americans into gruesome factories of torture and death?? Could it be? Sounds preposterous. Yet?in this video, Texe Marrs marshals overwhelming evidence so convincing it boggles the mind.


Have you watched those videos?

If not.

Watch them, then comment.

Next.

ADL Colin 04-16-2003 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mule

Don't let theking hear you say that, he'll spam you to death quoting what he'd previously posted on the subject :)

I'm being generous. Military uniforms, a handful of commercial helicopters, a few commercial planes
and maybe some computer technology doesn't exactly constitute the "arsenal of democracy".

There are not and never have been any US fighter jets, bombers, attack helicopters, tanks and as far as I am aware of - and given all the evidence that every adult male in Iraq has an AK47 - there are no US small arms in Saddam's arsenal.

Joe Sixpack 04-16-2003 03:54 AM

Why haven't they publically released a transcript of the cockpit flight recorder for UA flight 93?

What are they hiding?

theking 04-16-2003 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin


I'm being generous. Military uniforms, a handful of commercial helicopters, a few commercial planes
and maybe some computer technology doesn't exactly constitute the "arsenal of democracy".

There are not and never have been any US fighter jets, bombers, attack helicopters, tanks and as far as I am aware of - and given all the evidence that every adult male in Iraq has an AK47 - there are no US small arms in Saddam's arsenal.

You are correct.

Gunni 04-16-2003 04:32 AM

Of course itīs the CIA!

Didnīt anyone see Enemy of the State and The Art of War :stoned

Hi btw.

Iīm Gunni, been lurking for some time here :drinkup

Joe Sixpack 04-16-2003 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gunni
[IMG]http://********.com/images/smilies/sheepfucker.gif[/IMG]

Sure you're not from New Zealand?

Gunni 04-16-2003 04:43 AM

Nope, but my girlfriend is http://www.ag.ohio-state.edu/~ansci/...ages/sheep.jpg

:D

ADL Colin 04-16-2003 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Don't you mean when you have stopped questioning the government and the mass media you are beyond reason.

No one should ever stop questioning their government. No one should ever stop questioning the media. Some public officials will lie because people lie. Some public officials will work clandestine deals with other governments.

There is a germ of truth to many conspiracy theories. A conspiracy theory by definition is "an agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act". That people act in such ways is not surprising to anyone. All of us know some excellent examples from history that demonstrate that the world-according-to-Hoyle conspiracy theory does exist.

However, conspiracy theories go from there to absurd very quickly. A rather innocuous connection between a few individuals becomes a sinister connection between many individuals.
Individuals becomes organizations. Organizations become governments. A "senior official at the Pentagon" becomes "the Pentagon". An "ex-CIA operative" becomes "the CIA". 1977 becomes "the 70's". Before you know it, some guy that worked at the Pentagon in 1974 that visited the leader of Pakistan in 1979 becomes a world-wide plot between George Bush (because he was the head of the CIA "in the 70's") and the bin Ladens to monopolize the world oil markets.

By what process does "an interview with an ex-CIA operative" become "The CIA knew about"?

It's six degrees of separation on acid.

Just throw in the word "sinister", "shadowy", or "secret" in with CIA, FBI, or "military-industrial complex" and the recipe is nearly complete. All that's left is a little mind-reading ("George Bush wants to ...") and the conspiracy will show up in the "Alternative" section of the bookstore somewhere in between "The Dummies Guide to Astrology" and a book that begins "The Truth about".

The germ of truth is usually provided by the "mass media" themselves. Think "conspiracy theorists" are the only ones wanting to discredit governments? Reporters love to discover shady deals their governments were involved in. Republicans desire to discredit the Democratic administration before them and vice versa. Republican Senators love to discredit Democratic presidents and vice versa. In light of that, reporters just don't draw the conclusion that Osama bin Laden is George Bush's secret because because Osama's brother owned 21% of a company that George Bush's father stopped to take a pee at in 1968. And you wonder why?

Please, tell me more about how the landing on the moon was faked. I can't wait to hear it.

Joe Sixpack 04-16-2003 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin


No one should ever stop questioning their government. No one should ever stop questioning the media. Some public officials will lie because people lie. Some public officials will work clandestine deals with other governments.

There is a germ of truth to many conspiracy theories. A conspiracy theory by definition is "an agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act". That people act in such ways is not surprising to anyone. All of us know some excellent examples from history that demonstrate that the world-according-to-Hoyle conspiracy theory does exist.

However, conspiracy theories go from there to absurd very quickly. A rather innocuous connection between a few individuals becomes a sinister connection between many individuals.
Individuals becomes organizations. Organizations become governments. A "senior official at the Pentagon" becomes "the Pentagon". An "ex-CIA operative" becomes "the CIA". 1977 becomes "the 70's". Before you know it, some guy that worked at the Pentagon in 1974 that visited the leader of Pakistan in 1979 becomes a world-wide plot between George Bush (because he was the head of the CIA "in the 70's") and the bin Ladens to monopolize the world oil markets.

By what process does "an interview with an ex-CIA operative" become "The CIA knew about"?

It's six degrees of separation on acid.

Just throw in the word "sinister", "shadowy", or "secret" in with CIA, FBI, or "military-industrial complex" and the recipe is nearly complete. All that's left is a little mind-reading ("George Bush wants to ...") and the conspiracy will show up in the "Alternative" section of the bookstore somewhere in between "The Dummies Guide to Astrology" and a book that begins "The Truth about".

The germ of truth is usually provided by the "mass media" themselves. Think "conspiracy theorists" are the only ones wanting to discredit governments? Reporters love to discover shady deals their governments were involved in. Republicans desire to discredit the Democratic administration before them and vice versa. Republican Senators love to discredit Democratic presidents and vice versa. In light of that, reporters just don't draw the conclusion that Osama bin Laden is George Bush's secret because because Osama's brother owned 21% of a company that George Bush's father stopped to take a pee at in 1968. And you wonder why?

Please, tell me more about how the landing on the moon was faked. I can't wait to hear it.

How many lies do you think the US government has told to the public over the years?

Including the ones we already know about... Watergate, Iran Contra etc etc...

Gunni 04-16-2003 05:10 AM

Everyone knows that the landing on the moon was fake, it was produced by MGM!

12clicks 04-16-2003 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
You guys are beyond lunacy. you continually denounce mainstream media and then quote this stupid, shitty site which exists only to suck money from insecure and paranoid morons?

amazing. everyone else is "sheep" and your are "informed" - presumably due to the clarity of vision that your daily cocktail of anti-depressents and anti-psychotic medication gives you.

how can it be that everyone who presents an opposing view has an "agenda" ... much less a secret agenda... yet this fucking idiot is objective and just trying to do a good deed for all of humanity and you support that? ... is that balanced? objective? i

http://www.infowars.com/videos.html#tyranny

nice videos.... secret plans, secret societies, secret conspiracy theories. :( .... all supported by loose and sloppy evidence taken out of context or by quoting conflicting media sources which supposedly proves something. all media is a conspiracy and the bulk of the shit you spew is supported ONLY by various reports in that same media.

which is it? lies? or truth? - you guys can't seem to make up your minds and only seem to really be sure when it supports your own twisted view of reality.

amazing that there is all this "concrete proof" and the world seems to be missing it. Clinton could not get a blowjob without it becoming a world wide scandal - but he can secretly take over the world? give me a fucking break.

here is some informative videos from that site. amazing how the world can miss it. the conspiracy is much wider than we all know:

---------
Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove
Nixon, Eisenhower, and Reagan were members. The Bush Family Maintains a Strong Involvement. Now, for the First Time in History, Alex Jones Brings You Video from His Infiltration of Bohemian Grove. View the Elite Compound and Witness World Leaders Conducting a Bizarre, Occult Ritual, Worshipping a Giant Stone Owl Idol.
---------
American Gulag: Concentration Camps in America -- by Texe Marrs

Concentration camps in America? Feds set to toss millions of innocent Americans into gruesome factories of torture and death?? Could it be? Sounds preposterous. Yet?in this video, Texe Marrs marshals overwhelming evidence so convincing it boggles the mind.

I'm going to read ALL of your posts from now on. :thumbsup

ADL Colin 04-16-2003 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Massivecock



Have you watched those videos?

Did you watch the one with "World Leaders Conducting a Bizarre, Occult Ritual, Worshipping a Giant Stone Owl Idol"? I didn't. Please fill me in.

ADL Colin 04-16-2003 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


I'm going to read ALL of your posts from now on. :thumbsup

My partner should write a book. Once I start reading his posts, I can't stop.

ADL Colin 04-16-2003 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


How many lies do you think the US government has told to the public over the years?

Including the ones we already know about... Watergate, Iran Contra etc etc...

Since you quoted me, what in my post are you responding to?

Massivecock 04-16-2003 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin


Did you watch the one with "World Leaders Conducting a Bizarre, Occult Ritual, Worshipping a Giant Stone Owl Idol"? I didn't. Please fill me in.

Yes.

It shows exactly what the Description says.


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