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03-24-2017, 12:16 AM | #1 |
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question to Cyberseo about Wladimir Wladimirowich's approval in Russia
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...rkutsk-poverty
you won't suspect that TheGuardian is proPutin, so... I honestly doubt in what you said before that Russians dissaprove Putin. maybe only people in your social circle (as we usually surround ourselves with the people similar to us). so you can't extrapolate your social circle into whole Russia's population... I think that its true that 80 % of Russians approve Putin and his policies. What do you think about it ? |
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March 26 will be a day of protests in Russia which should take place in 100 cities. This doesn't look like Putin and his gang have a great support here. I'll tall you more. He's scared. He's very scared... Putin was booed by people after the Emelianenko's MMA fight: Nobody could even guess that over 110,000 of people will come to the streets of Moscow to say: "Russia without Putin!": What Putin did during these protests? I'll tell you. The coward just fled the country, because he was shitting in pants of fear. Course I'm talking about the people with a brain (nobody is interested to know that a herd is thinking). If you look into the Russian history, you will see that all changes were made by very small groups of people that live in capitals. In 1917 is was Saint Petersburg, in 1991 it was Moscow.
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well... they quote polls about Putin's approval in Russia. I think that they maybe somehow right....
each revolution becomes carricature of itself.... So tell me when Russia was actually a democratic country ? democracy in your country leads to lawless anarchy, thats my oipinion. but maybe I'm wrong here and maybe new generations of Russians (young people) raised on internet, new media, open to the world - think different. maybe. but how many of such young people does your country have ? maybe they are new burgeoiuse of your country , that the other young people - poor, uneducated and nationalistic will gladly eat alive..just like bolsheviks did in 1917. some countries - overall - are just not good for "democracies". They rather need strong authoritarian regime to keep them together... the other countries on the other hand - claim that they have democracies, but its people live like clueless sheep....the other countries claim to have democracies but in reality they live in oligarchias.... Look what happened after implementing democracy in Libya, Syria, Iraq..whatever...Russia is of course different story - you are civilised people, you can actually have some critical discurse even under authoritarian regime, you are kind of monolitic nation (not tribes), you have tradition of great culture opposing stupidity and lawness...but....usually in societies there is like maybe 10-20 % of the people that think for themselves and think at all... the rest are just clueless sheep that need stability..and very often - strong father figure ;-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41qWoysAA_M Quote:
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Tell me when your country was? I'll tell you: never. It has even never had a sovereignty during the latest centuries (it has been under Czarist Russia, Germans, Soviets, Americans etc) This is the point when a further discussion becomes absolute useless. Man, there is no true democracy anywhere. Americans are so proud to be a democratic nation. Do you really think they are? They even have no direct voting system. Just recently most of Americans have voted for Clinton. And what they've got? Trump???
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well it is oligarchic partitocracy now...but still - there are some balances and checks over it (still )
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03-24-2017, 01:11 AM | #7 |
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I love Russians! Putin Time for a new leader |
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Seo, non Putin voters can be his approvers as we'll ( for example voted for somebody else, but also liked Putin as second favorite etc). Just showing obvious flaws in your reasoning
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This picture is not a fake. The kind and nice people from the election committee help old people to vote at home... for a right candidate of course: That's how Putin was able to get his 63,6%. The Guardian won't write about it but I live in Russia and know the truth, because everybody here knows it. As about Crimea, so yes it was a 100% sure way for Putin to get a national support after his total fuck up in 2011-2012. His problem is that there is no other land like Crimea he could annex for the same reason. Crimea was the only place, considered by both Russian citizens and by Crimean ones as an occupated territory. The interest to Crimea is lowering too fast and Putin has to find out something else. I feel for him, because it's a very hard goal today...
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63,6% (real around 50% or less) was in 2012 but 86% now after Crimea and anti-Russian sanctions. It is Russia...more sanctions - more support for leader, no different for Putin or Stalin or Ivan IV Terrible
and not good anti-Putin propaganda, of course...for example real photo propaganda and ask Sid70 for more shit about Russia
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03-24-2017, 04:09 AM | #13 |
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>anti-Russian sanctions
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During the national referendum in 1934 84.6% of Germans had the same question: "Who, if not Hitler?" When their national leader has annexed Czechoslovakia, his approval rating was even higher. Should I remind you how has he ended?
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This is your decision Create your future Putin tried & failed Stop Putin from killing your future Russians & Americans are so much alike Choose somebody to bring us together please We will support Trump & Russia with a more inclusive leader Even though Trump is stupid, Americans & Russians deserve to prosper together |
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Yes, Russia has a bad ass military power, but do you really think that a global war is the only future for Putin to keep his throne? Only an idiot may think that he can win a war against the whole world. The only thing Russia can do is to totally destroy it... and be destroyed too. This propaganda resembles Germany of 1939, but with another level of destruction power. I'm talking about WMD's of course.
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Hitler was mentally ill person and on top of that he had inferority complex. he chose to hate, not to love.
comparing Putin to Hitler is without sense, as: Putin is common sense guy. he neither hates and loves..he judges rationally with common sense. he prolly loves money, women and power, all equally. maybe he loves power little more than first two things, no idea rather rational guy its like comparing Trump to Hitler...also completely without sense, as: Trump loves money and women. prefers to love than to hate definitely. he is not mentally ill like Hitler was, he just has little narcisstic disorder |
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Hmm... let me guess... because of NATO?
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Russia has undergone significant changes since the collapse of the Soviet Union, moving from a centrally planned economy towards a more market-based system. Both economic growth and reform have stalled in recent years, however, and Russia remains a predominantly statist economy with a high concentration of wealth in officials' hands. Economic reforms in the 1990s privatized most industry, with notable exceptions in the energy, transportation, banking, and defense-related sectors. The protection of property rights is still weak, and the state continues to interfere in the free operation of the private sector. Russia is one of the world's leading producers of oil and natural gas, and is also a top exporter of metals such as steel and primary aluminum. Russia's reliance on commodity exports makes it vulnerable to boom and bust cycles that follow the volatile swings in global prices. The economy, which had averaged 7% growth during 1998-2008 as oil prices rose rapidly, has seen diminishing growth rates since then due to the exhaustion of Russia?s commodity-based growth model. A combination of falling oil prices, international sanctions, and structural limitations pushed Russia into a deep recession in 2015, with the GDP falling by close to 4%. Most economists expect this downturn will continue through 2016. Government support for import substitution has increased recently in an effort to diversify the economy away from extractive industries. Although the Russian Ministry of Economic Development is forecasting a modest growth of 0.7% for 2016 as a whole, the Central Bank of Russia (CBR) is more pessimistic and expects the recovery to begin later in the year and a decline of 0.5% to 1.0% for the full year. Russia is heavily dependent on the movement of world commodity prices and the CBR estimates that if oil prices remain below $40 per barrel beyond 2016, the resulting shock would cause GDP to fall by up to 5%. https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/rs.html |
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I've learned the basics of economy and I know why ruble is tied to the oil price. Please tell me how all that shit is related to the NATO expansion and "sanctions" that make you vote for the kisser of kiddie bellies?
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That's very funny. The video was on youtube for many months, but right when I posted it here, Google has removed it for "copyright infringement" (Putin is a copyrighted word, is someone didn't know it). God bless youtube, god bless the American freedom
Ok, how long it will take to block this one:
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You need deep knowledge about economics for understand.
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Here is everything that should be enough to know even for you:
Do you have anything to add, comrade? In 2014 oil prices went into a tailspin, so ruble did. Sanctions my ass P.S. You brainwashed clowns can't get a simple basics of economy. You live in shit not because of sanctions, but because of Putin who has put you on the oil syringe needle. Vote for him and make your anus wider.
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No, it's really quite simple. Other countries are purposely driving down the price of oil right now and it is directly impacting your economy--Canada's as well actually but no where near as bad. It is worse than any specific sanctions against Russia. Maybe if Putin spent less time lining his own pockets essentially making himself a king and worked harder towards helping his own nations interests instead other nations would work with him instead.
I think it is pretty shady what is going on with oil prices right now myself, don't get me wrong, but he has done this to himself with his actions and his continued downward spiral into his involvement with staying in power. From what CyberSEO is posting it seems like the people are starting to stand up to him.
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Starting? Russians have got tired of him in 2011. The annexation of Crimea has helped the little king for some time, but now this card almost doesn't play. Putin is not as wise as you think. He has shifted the president's election of 2018 to... the day of annexation of Crimea! Is he stupid so much? Yes, he is. He thinks he can play the same card twice.
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https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/rs.html "A combination of falling oil prices, international sanctions(finansial sector), and structural limitations(putins despotism,bureaucrats,gangsters,police-gangsters) pushed Russia into a deep recession in 2015, with the GDP falling by close to 4%." "Russia has undergone significant changes since the collapse of the Soviet Union, moving from a centrally planned economy towards a more market-based system. Both economic growth and reform have stalled in recent years, however, and Russia remains a predominantly statist economy with a high concentration of wealth in officials' hands. Economic reforms in the 1990s privatized(stolen from country and people) most industry, with notable exceptions in the energy, transportation, banking, and defense-related sectors. The protection of property rights is still weak, and the state continues to interfere in the free operation of the private sector." Quote:
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FYI: Putin speaks English 100x times better than you.
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+ And "Cossacks" clowns He long time ago start build this "private armies" on oil money |
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IMO they are good as they are only loyal to the state, not to jihad.
state= Kadyrow and Putin. I think that it was actually smartest idea that Putin could do there in Chechenya - install another autocrat to avoid mess. And yeah, Kadyrow is still loyal Putin and prolly will be, its a symbosis Quote:
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According to some Russian sources, from 1991 to 1994 tens of thousands of people of non-Chechen ethnicity (mostly Russians, Ukrainians and Armenians) left the republic amidst reports of violence and discrimination against the non-Chechen population, as well as widespread lawlessness and ethnic cleansing under the government of Dzhokhar Dudayev. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechnya |
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This is the private army which is being trained and equipped by Putin for the Russian oil money.
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A life stream of what's going on in various Russian cities right now:
Does it look like a 80% support of Putin like Western media tries to paint it? I don't think so...
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Putin's policy looks adequately.
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Watch the life streams below. This happens right now (in this particular moment) in the center of Moscow: The last argument of Putin: klinton, do you understand that your point of view is a nonce? What 80% are you talking about? Show me at least one person who supports Putin for his own will (not for money). Only cops "support" the thief here. The live feeds are still in air - just watch them. I can see only the protestors there and zero Putin's supporters... How come? Over 130 were already arrested in Moscow today (don't even mention the arrests in about 100 Russians cities). For no reason. Federal television controlled by the thief keeps silence. Do you think the Western media will cover it?
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The thief has no foreign policy at all.
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А в жопу не вдуть? За Сирию, за Ассада и за Трампа?
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