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Babaganoosh

To you conspiracy theorists anything that you don't want to hear is propaganda, if one of your relatively unknown "news agencies" reports something that fits with your conspiracy theory then it's a "fact" and needs to be spewed all over the message board(s) you frequent. Give us a break. We don't give a shit. Now get back to work.

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archer

actually haaretz is Israel's leading newspaper and is completely on the level. The american equivalent would be the New York Times.

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FATPad

HAHA

I can't wait til Wonton has to refer to a story on Foxnews to back up something he agrees with.

He's famous for that now. Calling a news source lies and propaganda one day then using it as his source the next.

It's funny.

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wonton

You seem to be missing the point entirely, which is not surprising. The art of propaganda is to SPIN THE TRUTH, no blatantly broadcast all-out lies. You are a typical case study as to why propaganda works. Too bad you didn't live in Germany circa 1935. You would have fit in as a model citizen. Wait a minute...actually you live in a time and place which is not all that far off.

Congratulations model citizen FatPad!!

Babaganoosh

Yeah, they seem reputable, reasonable, and obective. What I read seems more like an editorial than an article.

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rooster

the funny thing is fox news is pretty much the only media outlet that isnt controlled by the jews.

wonton

Regardless, it is coming from a leading Israeli news org that routinely sides with the US, their most important benefactor. So when the Israelis have started calling certain elements of the US press a propaganda machine, maybe it is time for AMERICANS to start opening their eyes or at least ask some hard questions.

[Labret]

There is nobody on here that can say with a straight face that Fox is not anything but the mouthpiece of the current administration.

It wouldnt be so bad if they would stop using the "fair and balanced" mantra. Its such a fucking joke.

Although I am nothing short of shocked that Israel would be anti-Fox when Fox is insanely pro Zionist.

VirtuMike

I'm gonna side with Haaretz. The only news I go with is BBC. CNN and Fox are incredibly bad journalists. They are SUPPOSED to report only relevant and factual information, and they throw as much emotion as they can into it to up ratings and keep it exciting.

Not good.

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Babaganoosh

Did you read the article that was posted? Tell me THAT wasn't filled with emotion and opinion. I do agree with you on the BBC though. Definitely good stuff.

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Fox looking for ratings?

Surely the people that nearly single handedly invented reality television with such hard hitting television shows as COPS, Worlds Wildest Police Chases, When White Trash Attack blah blah are more interested in journalistic integrity than ratings.

Fox has always appealed to the average short attention span having American with its programming.

So they report the news the same way.

Fox is the McDonalds of news. Fast, cheap, and worthless.

genomega

heh. The haaretz is a left wing paper and the bbc spins as much or more than the others do.

sacX

Fox News is entertainment.

wonton

For christ's sake Fox News showed a recap of the first night of shock and awe using the background of an orchestral score!!!

They set the bombing of Baghdad to music!! At least they didn't use Wagner, Hitler's favorite composer.

Fox News should make any thinking American puke his guts out.

VirtuMike

Actually my favorite composer is Ricard Wagner. That CAN'T be a good sign. Fuck now I have to get a new favorite composer.

I want Fox to go back to Married... With Children. That's all a man can hope for. Stay out of news.

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rooster

Fox is kicking butt in ratings for a reason.



They may be pro usa but look at it this way. Watch a baseball game. The announcers going to be obviously pro-hometeam. Does that mean they are going to say the score is 6-0 in their favor when its really 5-5.


Jews control every other media outlet, and look whos kicking their butt. It probably drives them nuts.

UnseenWorld

I'm sure that when Rumsfeld says jump, Fox News asks "How high?"

Seriously, you didn't notice that most of the US news sources seemed fairly critical of the war's progress and have been gleefully reporting the absence of WMD's to the embarrassment of the US government, did you?

Most US news sources seem to delight in finding fault with the government, so this idea that the news sources work in lock step with the Feds simply doesn't wash.

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wonton

They find fault with the government on comparitively trivial matters. But when it comes to war, the US media goose-steps in synch with the government. The Iraq war is illegal, unjust and based on government lies. But the media refuses to call them on it.

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Sounds to me like Isreal don't like the idea to much that we are gonna put alot effort into helping Iraq and build on a new relationship with the Arabs.

Reading that article almost hints of jelousy and fear of what The USA will be doing.

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Snake Doctor

Very nice read.....I especially liked this part

But Fox broadcasts to the entire world. Like CNN, it presents to the globe the face of America and its perception of reality, and it exports its dark side, the infuriating side that inspires so much hostility: the self-righteousness, the brutality, the pretension, hubris, and simplicity, the feverish faith in its moral superiority, the saccharine and infantile patriotism, and the deep self-persuasion that America is not only the most powerful of the nations, but also that the truth is always American. Fox looks like the media arm of the superpower mentality, indifferent to any perspective that is not American and alienating vast portions of the world. Its war coverage is as governmental as that of Iraqi TV. This is American TV

Fox news is so far up the GOP's ass I can't tell where one ends and the other begins.

For pete's sake, Pat Buchanan has asked more critical questions about this administration and voiced more opposition to its policies than the entire Fox news team combined.

PAT BUCHANAN!!!

Is it 2004 yet?

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Manga1

Great article. This paragraph really shows the spin at work:

With effective, rapid and decisive rewriting of history, there is an impression that the network has erased past relations between Iraq and America. It is difficult to find any mention of the fact that the U.S. armed Iraq in its war against Iran in the 1980s, or that it turned a blind eye when Saddam Hussein brutally put down a 1991 uprising with chemical weapons after the first Gulf War. The argument about the connection between Saddam's regime and Al-Qaida and the attack on the Twin Towers has disappeared, and the "axis of evil," which also included Iran and North Korea, has evaporated. There's practically no mention of the stockpiling of weapons of mass destruction and how they were hid from the UN inspectors as being the official reason for the war. There's no reference to the American economic interests in Iraqi oil wells. Every operation to take over the wells and prevent their sabotage was altruistic, for the sake of the Iraqi people and preservation of its assets and resources.