I will remove the quotes just for you Baghdad Wonton.

The US has plans to invade every country on the globe - Including all of our allies.

fuck him

So many people have been railing and crying against the US and the "pre-emptive nature" of the war for so many weeks, all mostly without facts backing up their arguments. Imagine for a second what the world would have been like during the years 1939 to 1945 if the US and the UK + all other allies had of gone against Hitler in a pre-emptive manner, like Bush is against Saddam.

Think about it.

While Hitler is gaining power, stockpiling weapons, tanks, subs, planes, size of army etc, the world goes in and removes him from power. WW II isn't fought across 3 continents but on German soil ONLY. THINK of the savings in lives that would have made.

Is saddam equal to Hitler? Maybe not, but he has certainly shown Hitler-like traits over the years, and I for one am very happy that we won't ever have to find out just how far ol' Saddam would have gone with his power trip.

Newspapers have libraries of obituaries of people who are still alive, just to be prepared, but it doesn't follow that the newspapers intend to kill anyone. I wouldn't be surprised if the US had "plans" to invade Brazil or The New Seychelles as well just in case they were ever needed.

And if the emphasis has changed to ousting Saddam Hussein, who is complaining? Certainly not the Iraqis.

Someone already said it, but it bears repeating.

The US military has plans to invade everyone. Even places like Canada, Mexico, Australia and Great Britain, and I doubt we're going to be attacking any of them anytime soon.

While I don't like the deficet spending one bit, it is needed here. Btw it's only 2-3% of our GDP so it's not going to bankrupt the US that is a little far fetched to say the least.

Churchill called WWII the avoidable war for that very reason. While the allies were appeasing, Hitler was amassing. Buy the time they realized it, it was way too late.

It's sort of like a pre-nup. Having a prenup means being prepared in case of a divorce, not planning on getting one.

From the US financed "thintank" NEW AMERICAN CENTURY


This letter focusing on the first war of the 21st century was sent 9 days after 9/11. So yes, the inspection process thru the UN was smoked blown from a stinking asshole in american brainwashed faces.!


http://www.newamericancentury.org/Bushletter.htm

September 20, 2001

The Honorable George W. Bush
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President,

We write to endorse your admirable commitment to ?lead the world to victory? in the war against terrorism. We fully support your call for ?a broad and sustained campaign? against the ?terrorist organizations and those who harbor and support them.? We agree with Secretary of State Powell that the United States must find and punish the perpetrators of the horrific attack of September 11, and we must, as he said, ?go after terrorism wherever we find it in the world? and ?get it by its branch and root.? We agree with the Secretary of State that U.S. policy must aim not only at finding the people responsible for this incident, but must also target those ?other groups out there that mean us no good? and ?that have conducted attacks previously against U.S. personnel, U.S. interests and our allies.?

In order to carry out this ?first war of the 21st century? successfully, and in order, as you have said, to do future ?generations a favor by coming together and whipping terrorism,? we believe the following steps are necessary parts of a comprehensive strategy.


For Iraq:

For Syria:

Oh please..... Saddam circa 2003 is in no way comparable to Hitler circa 1939. Saddam had NOTHING just a rag-tag army armed with sandals and bean bags. His country was utterly destroyed after the 1991 Gulf War and 12 years of super-punishing sancations. He was not a threat to the US or the world. What a fucking joke. The biggest media-created paper tiger in the history of the world. In 2003 Saddam could not even launch an attack against Gilligan's island and expect to win. He was completely TOOTHLESS yet the American government and media made him out to be this dangerous super-villain on the scale of Lex Luthor. The rest of the world saw through the joke. When will Americans?

people were only asking to let the inspector do their jobs. A few more months, not years, not 6months. 3 max. Would that have been so tough? nope just expensive.

Thing is US hawks didn't care about the inspectors in the first place.. It was always about regime change, not WMD. They should have just been honest about it in the first place.

:1orglaugh

So true.

where's the "who fuckin cares" picture of gary coleman when you need it?

Please pull the plug out of your ass so your brain can breath.

There is already so much that has been posted on this board or written in news articles on ALL the news sources covering the war that refute every single one of your objections. I utterly lack the desire to lay it all out for you yet again. It seems that nothing short of having some "Saddam Hussein-like" individual causing WW III would ever convince people like you to wake up. People who choose to wear blinders rather than show some dick in support of those who are risking their lives to protect them are very pitiful people.

Umm...I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but it was 12 years ago that he was ordered to disarm.

People have been asking for the inspectors to do their job for over a decade.

Would it have been so tough for him to cooperate 12 years ago? Was he in fact required to cooperate 12 years ago?

I'm not sure why people keep acting like there is no prior history and saying things like, "it's only 3 months" when in fact it has been 12 years *already*.

And what would happen if he didn't cooperate for 3 months? Would the UN do what it always did which was nothing? Then everything is back at square 1 yet again and the pattern of Saddam playing the UN and the world like a piano goes on.

Because those people are brain-dead.

*rolls eyes*
for God sakes the vice only went back on Iraq 3-4 months ago. Weapons inspectors had only just been readmitted.

If it's been 12 years then why couldn't you wait 3 more months.

CDSmith do you ever say anything slightly intelligent. All I see from you is insults whenever someone doesn't agree with you. Does it hurt when you think?

CDSmith is a fucking Canadian.... lol :Graucho

Just because some things are lies and propaganda(spin) doesn't mean everything is.

He did, however, state several times that they did allow full unfettered access.

At least 6 in 2002 alone.

First off its BS and a cheap shot to play off emotions by equating anything to Hitler considering most view him as the pinnacle of evil.

People can draw connections anywhere with examples like that for either side.

The situation in Iraq bears little resemblance to a WW2 Germany as does the situation domestically in america and its leaders.

You've never read/heard about/seen footage of the large stores of weapons/facilities destroyed during the first rounds of inspections?

One extremely compelling reason is that both both biological and chemical weapons tend to work better on warmer weather, not to mention that the suits required for protection can themselves become lethal to the wearer when the ambient daytime temperatures drift up into the 100's. THAT is why it couldn't wait three more months, and besides what kind of person would actually believe that Saddam would wake up one morning in the next three months and stop playing his shell game, saying "Okay you got me: here is where my WMD's are"...a smart person or a dumb one?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/iraq/issues_a...eck030410.html

One phrase is clear: "But that was not fast enough for George Bush, who maintained war was the only option"

No one was saying Saddam was going to give up his weapons. It was about trying to get more concensus, to try and convince more of the international community that going in was the right thing to do. If the US had more patience and shown some respect they would have added a lot more legitimacy to the invasion.

What you're saying about chemical and biological weapons being more effective in the heat is just untrue. They are LESS effective. Increased temperatures increase the evaporation rate of chemical weapons, and the UV light increases degradation of biological agents..

Directfiesta's CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) quote says it all.

Bravo!

South Park: The Movie was wrong. Canadians are A-Okay in my book!

At least the CBC is willing to call it like it is.

:thumbsup

http://www.ibillsucks.info/files/canada_us_flags.jpg

http://www.cbc.ca/interact/us_letters.html

Geez,, if you read all the US news headlines you'd think the US was getting their ass kicked, Hell the pentagon has all the bitched about the negative press,,

lets start with some subjects

War pauses, failed plan being rewritten
Troops moving too fast supply to thinned
Massive civilian causulties
Iraqi people not happy

Now i am hearing today that CNN is underfire for lying about the situation in Iraq so saddam will let their reporters stay

The western media has way to many different sources. their are literally thousands of different news sources.

Now if there wasn't any reporters on the field and we was only getting news from the pentagon and daily war briefing than yes i would believe their would be possible propaganda. but time after time we get the latest news first then the pentagon will have to explain not the other way around

What I find most depressing about a lot of these posts is not that people are pro-war. Wars for resources such as oil have been going on for centuries, I'm depressed because so many people seem to actually swallow the 'looking for WMD' or 'free the Iraqis' bullshit. It's like they have to justify it by lying.

I'm trying to decide whether these people are truly as stupid as they sound, or merely following the propaganda because they think it will somehow help their troops/country. At least the latter has some merit, however misguided.

This is about oil and the US government isn't even trying to hide it that much, hence the money/troops/businesses already setting up to run the oil fields.Whereas US help for hospitals, humanitarian aid etc. is fucking conspicuous by it's absence.
Apparently the oil fields need to be solely run by the US, whereas humanitarian aid, hospitals, schools, needs to be run by the UN... oh yeah. Duh!

Everything Blix said just confirms all this.

Forget the words, look at the actions!

who gives a flying fuck???

if the war is about oil, then good, least we'll jump on oppurtunity when we see it, and in the process make iraq a better place to live rather than it being ran by a man who enjoys murdering / raping / torturing his own people.