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  • Barry-xlovecam
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    Ben Carson says: African Slaves were Immigrants with a Dream

    ?That?s what America is about. A land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great grandsons, great granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.?
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  • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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    #2
    Well what else were they?

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    • Barry-xlovecam
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      #3
      Guess who got hit with the stupid stick this week ...

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      • ruff
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        #4
        Wasn't Ben Carson one of those fantastic, marvelous, smart, cream of the crop, bestest, people that money can buy, the kind of intelligent brainiacs that tRump is supposed to be hiring to populate his administration? I thought that was a campaign promise. Why is he hiring dipshits, racists, morons, idiots, alt-right fuckbubbles and turnip heads instead?
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        • ruff
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          #5
          Originally posted by JohnnyClips
          Well what else were they?
          They were tourists dumbass.
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          • Barry-xlovecam
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            #6
            Those chains were olden days seat belts ...

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            • escorpio
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              #7
              Your ancestors got a free boat ride to America?

              Unvaxxed, still alive.

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              • kane
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                • Aug 2001
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                #8
                Ben Carson is one of those people that proves a person can be absolutely brilliant at one thing and yet still be clueless about many others.

                He's like a savant who can solve complex math problems quickly in their head yet can't tie their own shoes.

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                • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                  #9
                  of course it's completely taken out of context

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                  • crockett
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                    #10
                    LOL I just laughed my ass off at that title... If he really said that, he's a stupid mother fucker..
                    In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                    • kane
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by crockett
                      LOL I just laughed my ass off at that title... If he really said that, he's a stupid mother fucker..
                      Here is the full quote.

                      ?That's what America is about. A land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,? said Carson, speaking extemporaneously as he paced the room with a microphone. ?But they, too, had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great grandsons, great granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.?

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                      • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                        #12
                        typical liberals taking everything out of context

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                        • Barry-xlovecam
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                          #13
                          I guess it was Carson's turn to be stupid and cause a diversion maybe?

                          Yes, being forced into slavery was an opportunity ... A free ticket to America ...

                          Forced migration ... That is like saying abortions are good for children.

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                          • nico-t
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                            #14
                            Holy shit, way to oversimplify and completely yank it out of context... now tell me was this bit of fake news worth that insane brainwashed obsessed original post?

                            Get a life moron

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                            • pimpmaster9000
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ruff
                              Wasn't Ben Carson one of those fantastic, marvelous, smart, cream of the crop, bestest, people that money can buy, the kind of intelligent brainiacs that tRump is supposed to be hiring to populate his administration? I thought that was a campaign promise. Why is he hiring dipshits, racists, morons, idiots, alt-right fuckbubbles and turnip heads instead?
                              nobody normal would work for trump...let alone cream of the crop experts...
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                              • Barry-xlovecam
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                                #16
                                Yes -- Ben Carson is a regular mental giant. He is living proof of how the bible can fuck with your mind. The Hebrews were migrants of a famine in Canaan that freely went to Egypt and became the Pharaohs' slaves -- not the Africans forced into slavery in the New World.

                                Ben Carson must have a degenerative brain disease. For a former brain surgeon he is a raving lunatic. Either that or Trump wanted 1/3 of HUD's employees to quit

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                                • Matt 26z
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                                  #17
                                  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/immigrant
                                  Definition of immigrant
                                  : one that immigrates: such as
                                  a : a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence
                                  b : a plant or animal that becomes established in an area where it was previously unknown

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                                  • Rochard
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/immigrant
                                    Definition of immigrant
                                    : one that immigrates: such as
                                    a : a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence
                                    b : a plant or animal that becomes established in an area where it was previously unknown
                                    You are kidding right? If you don't know the difference between an immigrant and a slave you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or have children.
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                                    • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                      You are kidding right? If you don't know the difference between an immigrant and a slave you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or have children.
                                      look at the whole statement dumbass

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                                      • mineistaken
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                        I guess it was Carson's turn to be stupid and cause a diversion maybe?

                                        Yes, being forced into slavery was an opportunity ... A free ticket to America ...

                                        Forced migration ... That is like saying abortions are good for children.
                                        Those who were not beaten by the masters probably had better life than back in the wild.

                                        And how do you know what they thought while being chained? Maybe they were fed some lines about great new word etc. Remember that they knew nothing, it was dark times, especially in African wilds...

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                                        • mineistaken
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                          You are kidding right? If you don't know the difference between an immigrant and a slave you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or have children.
                                          Slave is a forced immigrant. Forced immigrant is immigrant.

                                          Slave definition has nothing to do with migration, it has to do with being property (migrated or not, nothing todo with definition of slave).

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                                          • mineistaken
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                                            #22
                                            By the way so far Ben was called dumb etc etc.
                                            If he was white he would be racist, well you know, because libby double standard...

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                                            • Barry-xlovecam
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by mineistaken
                                              Those who were not beaten by the masters probably had better life than back in the wild.

                                              And how do you know what they thought while being chained? Maybe they were fed some lines about great new word etc. Remember that they knew nothing, it was dark times, especially in African wilds...
                                              And the women that were raped really liked it -- fucking idiot.

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                                              • kane
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                                                #24
                                                Carson is now defending himself saying slaves were "Involuntary immigrants."

                                                Classic.

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                                                • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by kane
                                                  Carson is now defending himself saying slaves were "Involuntary immigrants."

                                                  Classic.
                                                  What else were they?

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                                                  • kane
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by JohnnyClips
                                                    What else were they?
                                                    uuuhhh....Slaves.

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                                                    • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                      #27
                                                      Black slaves were forced into slavery -- they didn't 'volunteer' in any way, shape or form.

                                                      Ben Carson is Amos 'n Andy Reloaded ...

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                                                      • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by kane
                                                        Carson is now defending himself saying slaves were "Involuntary immigrants."

                                                        Classic.
                                                        A Trumpism

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                                                        • ruff
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by kane
                                                          Here is the full quote.

                                                          ?That's what America is about. A land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,? said Carson, speaking extemporaneously as he paced the room with a microphone. ?But they, too, had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great grandsons, great granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.?
                                                          So there were the slaves in the slave ships and then there were the immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships. I missed that part in history class. I did not know slave ships had tourist class accommodations. I see now. That must be where Martin Luther King got that "We have a Dream" stuff, from the black tourists of the 17th and 18th century.
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                                                          • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                            #30
                                                            I have a dream -- bust these chains!

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                                                            • Matt 26z
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                              I have a dream -- bust these chains!
                                                              Most slaves didn't even know they were slaves since their lives improved so much compared to life in Africa. Ironically, the African tribes who captured and sold them to whitey were living worse lives than an American slave.

                                                              While the mainstream image of slavery is men being whipped and beaten in the fields, that is generally not true. These men were farm workers and their owners needed them to be in top physical condition.

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                                                              • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                #32
                                                                stop watching the movies they weren't in chains lol

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                                                                • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Slavery was good for the Black African -- where did you learn that at a KKK meeting?

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                                                                  • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Yeah right -- they could buy comfort seats on the slave boat. Their own piss pot and a window seat

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                                                                    • Rochard
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                                      Slave is a forced immigrant. Forced immigrant is immigrant.

                                                                      Slave definition has nothing to do with migration, it has to do with being property (migrated or not, nothing todo with definition of slave).
                                                                      An immigrant is someone who moves to a new country in search of a better life. A slave is someone who is kidnapped, and forced to slave labor, no matter where they end up. Calling a slave an immigrant is rather insulting.

                                                                      If I hit you over the head, put you in boat, and you wake up in Africa, you aren't an immigrant there. You are a victim.
                                                                      Herschel Savage
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                                                                      • MPGdevil
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                                        Most slaves didn't even know they were slaves since their lives improved so much compared to life in Africa. Ironically, the African tribes who captured and sold them to whitey were living worse lives than an American slave.

                                                                        While the mainstream image of slavery is men being whipped and beaten in the fields, that is generally not true. These men were farm workers and their owners needed them to be in top physical condition.
                                                                        Yes indians and Africans should all be grateful how they were treated by the European settlers :D

                                                                        How about sending some of your homeless people into Trumps new coal mines. Then they have roof over their head and something to spend their days with. If they protest just beat them up an throw them on busses. It's for their own good.

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                                                                        • Matt 26z
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by MPGdevil
                                                                          Yes indians and Africans should all be grateful how they were treated by the European settlers :D
                                                                          The vast majority of native Americans died of what was to them exotic diseases that spread west faster than the settlers did.

                                                                          And you can do further reading on what slaves really thought of slavery. Here are a bunch of quotes from actual slaves:
                                                                          Blacks Loved Slavery and Regretted Its End – Daily Stormer

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                                                                          • Paul Markham
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Why do people vote for this moron?



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                                                                            • Look Chang
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              These "immigrants" enjoyed nice tour packages...

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                                                                              • nico-t
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by kane
                                                                                Carson is now defending himself saying slaves were "Involuntary immigrants."

                                                                                Classic.
                                                                                Uhm... Logic and facts say they are exactly that you idiot

                                                                                What are the facts?

                                                                                - They were slaves.
                                                                                - They migrated to another country.

                                                                                Whether they migrated under force, lies, money, or whatever doesn't matter. The fact remains is that they migrated!

                                                                                Fucking desperate retards spinning every single word just to create headlines, and the most pathetic thing is you people falling for it, parroting it. Idiots

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                                                                                • MiamiBoyz
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                                                                                  #41

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                                                                                  • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    African slaves were immigrants that had a dream and worked for less

                                                                                    Ben Carson is the Idiot of the Month

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                                                                                    • Tasty1
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Holland never traded slaves. They just travelled 5th class on an cruise ship and worked to pay for their ticket.

                                                                                      everything is fake

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                                                                                      • Joshua G
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Why are so many media outlets reporting on the rantings of a GOP nobody ever heard of? Ben carson is a zero! U dumb libs dont even know who he is!

                                                                                        Because the liberal media wants to paint all GOP with the brush of racism.

                                                                                        So the media response is hyper-disproportionate to the q-score of the speaker. His comments were just stupid, not worth the coverage.

                                                                                        Once again, dumb libs being ginned up to hate by liberal propaganda press.

                                                                                        Dumb libs.

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                                                                                        • mineistaken
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                          And the women that were raped really liked it -- fucking idiot.
                                                                                          Idiot, learn basic reading skills, I said those who were NOT beaten. So same goes for women, those who were NOT raped and beaten.

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                                                                                          • mineistaken
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by kane
                                                                                            Carson is now defending himself saying slaves were "Involuntary immigrants."

                                                                                            Classic.
                                                                                            How is that classic? I wrote the same thing even before he "defended" himself.
                                                                                            Where do you see the definition of word immigrant that states it must be voluntary?
                                                                                            Immigrating is moving to another country, definition is not being broken by voluntary or not.

                                                                                            You are used to using this word for voluntary immigration that is why it is "not correct" for you. But if you leave emotions out, Ben is 100% correct, involuntary immigration is immigration.

                                                                                            Another example of emotional vs rational thinking.

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                                                                                            • RedFred
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              slavery is a-ok just as long as they are not beaten? but the bible disagrees with you


                                                                                              When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.

                                                                                              -Exodus 21:20-21

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                                                                                              • mineistaken
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by kane
                                                                                                uuuhhh....Slaves.
                                                                                                Slaves AND immigrants.

                                                                                                These things do not cancel each other out.

                                                                                                As I already posted:

                                                                                                Slave is a forced immigrant. Forced immigrant is immigrant.

                                                                                                Slave definition has nothing to do with migration, it has to do with being property (migrated or not, nothing todo with definition of slave).

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                                                                                                • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Shouldn't have even brought the slaves here or freed them for that matter...look at whats happened since

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                                                                                                  • mineistaken
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                                    Black slaves were forced into slavery -- they didn't 'volunteer' in any way, shape or form.
                                                                                                    That is exactly what he said - INvoluntary, duh...

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